Central Monsters University Discussion

He’s been confirmed. Sadly, I would trade Boo for three Randalls and we’ll never get her :frowning:

I am gonna miss Boo, Maybe someone who looks like her will.

There wasn’t so much in the way of corporate life so much as those of the workers. Sure, we see the inner workings, such as Waternoose’s lack of like for the BODs and the threat of scream loss. But yes, it wouldn’t be the focus.
After all in it’s real core…corporate life CAN be boring to a lot of people.

If there’s any indication here people…there’s a chance that there will be a sequel sometime on down the road. Which makes one wonder, in that context…what is it…that we’re “missing”…that can only be shown/explained in the past?

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Have at it!

I love how that synopsis… doesn’t say anything new.

From the way the synopsis is phrased, it seems like Mike and Sully met prior to their schooling at MU, but that college was where they actually bonded. I like that; it means the 4th grade comment makes sense. Of course, this may be me reading too deeply into it, but it is open to interpretation…Still, it’s a rather simple paragraph. Nothing that we didn’t know before. Though, to be fair, the film is going to be released in 2013. We still don’t know much about Brave, and that’s due for 2012.

I actually like the logo. It maintains the past logo’s blue and the “university” portion is written in the standard college lettering style. Seems like it would look nice on a hoodie. (Note: I would totally buy a hoodie with Monsters University written on it.)

I (silently) wish that they came up with something different for the logo to be honest. The “Monsters” part is a little boring, and they absolutely don’t have to stick with it. The corporate and the university really don’t have anything to do with each other.

That’s what bothers me.

Unless they’re related. Something like the university teaches future Monsters Incorporated scarers and is also property of the Waternoose family. That’s the only way for the logo to make sense.

Yeah, but then it defeats the whole purpose of “training program” that was so essential to MI story. If you go to college to learn how to scare people, then you don’t really need to ‘learn’ how to do that once you get into Monsters, Inc. anymore, right? And then the rubbish scarer like Mr. Bile (“My friends call me Phlegm”) wouldn’t be hired, right? For the MI world to make sense, I really hope that the corporation and the university are separated, and have no (or minimum) connection.

Exactly. But for that very reason I don’t see the university concept really fitting in, even as a separate entity.

Monsters have diverse jobs, not just scaring. And for that is the training.

Yep, agreed completely. I’m pretty sure whatever Sully and Mike were doing in college, they wouldn’t exactly be learning how to scare kids. That just don’t sound like a very exciting major that would last them 4 years in college. So to make things interesting, the story would probably have to involve Sully and Mike learning whacky things in college, whatever it is. Connection with Monsters Inc would probably come later, along with how they end up working there. The logos, therefore, I just decided, to be coincidental :mrgreen:

Besides, there are just a few scarers working in MI. Do they need an university to train a dozen students?

It wouldn’t make sense.

But then, why is the university allegedly called “University of Fear”? Does it kind of imply that all they teach in there is how to strike fear in others?

I know, i know. It’s so confusing!

PS: I’m wishing again this wasn’t a sequel.

PS: Please don’t let them change the characters appearances to make them look younger.

It’s not gonna be a sequel.

But you can bet they’ll change the characters’ look. Maybe not so much for Mike, but Sulley will definitely looks younger and more vibrant.

Sullivan and Mike are pretty young as it is, so I doubt that their looks will change durstically.

Well, the sypnopsis is SOOOO cliche it’s not even funny. But I’m interested to see how Pixar gives it their own twist.

Yeah the synopsis is adding nothing new and I echo the comments about the fact that the university only be involved in only scaring doesn’t make sense for many reasons. After all, training was in the factory and it utterly made sense regarding the type of job they had that a degree would not be required at all. Also I kind of have it in my head canon (before this came around) that BOTH Mike and Randall gave college at the very least a shot but neither of them maybe actually finished it- like Randall did something like engineering for a while or wanted to ‘major’ in that but it didn’t work out for finiancial reasons and the fact being in engineering takes far far too long (or Mike did finish his own degree but his results were far from spectacular- too much of the social scene if you get me).

I just can’t see Sulley in a university setting (as a student anyway) much as I love the guy, at all unless he was made to go or it was due to parental expectation/guilt trips- he just doesn’t seem the type to be especially studious nor ‘let’s get away from parents and do what we like wooooo!’. Sulley strikes me as someone who is fine with a regular job- hence a degree isn’t something he’d want or especially need or even deep down see the point of unless perhaps a parent expected it of him and he did it to keep the peace in that respect. I can see Mike going for a degree and university though for whatever reason. He’d want to go for the freedom etc etc and girls. For some reason I see Mike as thinking college will be where he’ll meet girls. Unfortuantly he’ll have to find out there are other guys and heck, girls who even without the other guys (or girls) wouldn’t date him anyway. I forsee lots of jokes related to Mike not being able to get a date until the movies end or something. If at all.

Sulley and Mike don’t seem that young in the first movie to me though e-j-e. There was extra information saying Randall was 24/25, but generally Mike acts like he’s going through some mid-life crisis to me and Celia is 29+ (… I think? She doesn’t like people asking I think in some extra information where it’s asked and the joke/stereotype is that people after 30 start lying or taking offence). And while girls can date younger guys it’s more usual as the other way around. I’d say late thirties, youngest age at best based on how they act. Hardly old or waiting to cash in their pension check but not kids either. That’s just my opinion though.

Also of course considering how often extra-canon information conflicts…

chuckles I have to agree with SOA’s deadpan response hehehe.

Hmm…sure it was preschool that their “rocky relationship” started…I’ll have to check my notes.

At least they colored it in now. Maybe they were deciding whether to go different or keep the same sort of style. And I’m sure somebody will be happy that the signature “eye in the M” lives on.

Interesting point Prickle, but here’s another. Since the Scream Industry is a much more life-oriented industry than our own electrical companies…there could be universities that solely focus on it as a whole. As such, it may be funded or supported by one of the Scream Industry companies.
Seeing as how Monsters Inc. had been CEOed by the Waternooses for 3 generations (if Waternoose isn’t there his father (who may or not be Floyd Waternoose) certainly is. And given that they were able to create their own training facility on an island (Scare Island…not very creative lot when it comes to naming things are they? Just like “pirates” ^0-)…not too out of sorts that they made their own educational facilities.

Ahh SOA, I see you caught on.
Prickle though, does come up with a good question.
Perhaps it’s “easier” to actually get the job WITH a scareing degree, like with well…any job. Focused.

Lets DO take Bile for instance…this guy probably didn’t graduate in a scareing college, probably fresh out of high school. But seeing as Scarers were so popular, maybe he wanted in on that. But, as obviously seen, he wasn’t cut out for it.
Maybe those who TAKE those colleges/Universities focusing on Scareing are committed to become ones. But those who don’t…maybe want to keep their options open. If being a scarer didn’t work out for Bile, then he’d move on to something else, without having wasted years to get a degree for something he wasn’t cut out for.

Hmm…also, lets take the thought in that it’s not just Scarers. Assistants and C.D.A. members are also responsible for learning most of the same stuff as Scarers do. Perhaps the “training program” there “situates who’s best for the job”.
Take Wazowski, he probably wanted to be a Scarer for personal satisfaction. They were popular. But he’s not cut out for it, like Bile. Instead…he was a great assistant.

Of course Sullivan and Wazowski went through training on Scare Island (where Randall was one of the trainers)…so if they went to a university before hand…
Well…I guess if we think bare-basics…“degree = job”…though you still have to go through training anyway.

prods head If I recall from my research, it generally takes 1-2 years in training before you become a full-fledged Scarer…and that would probably be direct training…simulators…Nerves (like the robot-kid)…
Let me see here…
Well…of course it may NOT be a 4-year college, may be a 2-year college…debatable. For Sullivan, a 2-year one might be all he needs. He achieved very high entrance exam scores in the M.I. Scare Simulator…

Ah…yes there ARE Trainee Scarer positions, now I see…and takes (at least for him it took) 2 years to be a full-fledged scarer.

Complicate ain’t it? 2-4 years in college, simulator training, then 2 years…takes a LOT to be Scarer don’t it? Weird…there’s a lot to learn (CDA codes, procedures, etc.)…but maybe there’s some more we don’t know about. Afterall…this job steps into an alternate world…perhaps there’s more…

splutters coffee A FEW? There’s 1,560…and that’s just one building. And JUST scarers. Not counting assistants, which double that…then add 120 for the floor managers…office workers…upper staff…

It’s debatable how old Sullivan and Wazowski are. Some say they are pushing to 40s. Randall’s at age 25 at the film, for reference.

To me, Wazowski wouldn’t survive in college…on his own. With his type of personality…he would find himself in a dumpster for ticking somebody’s boyfriend off. Payment-wise I think he was ok…he seems to be an only child…with a doting mother and…well to be honest…SOMETHING tells me his father is a lawyer…where do I get that? NO IDEA…but I get it.
As for Randall…fiance-wise…yeah he’d be in trouble…though…given his scarering and engineering talents, he might have gotten himself some help through scholarships. He’s honestly dedicated and a hard worker (and not a cheater), so I think he might be able to get some kind of degree. It may not have been a Doctorate in Monstrosity…but at least something. But…whatever the event, he certainly made it up in training. Top Scarer at a fast pace to verteranship, and a trainer to boot.

Sullivan seems ok to me. His father, to me, seems to have been in the Scare Industry before and his mother cares about him (pays attention to his career of course). Think fiance-wise he was pretty much set. Maybe he took a part-time job working as a janitor in M.I. (as a throwback to his previous-ness). It seemed perfect. Study for a job as a Scarer, and be on hand to witness “the action”.

Tehehe, I keep saying it Mental, we cross-wavelengths sometimes heh heh (i.e. Wazowski and college).

Wazowski does seem to ACT younger than he is. Being a music fan, he used a month’s salary on his huge collection of CDs. I think people would agree with Sullivan about “Mike…we’ve got bills to pay”.

Personally I see Mike’s mum as being a housewife and his dad as… doing SOMETHING involved in an office. Something which involves A LOT of paper work (who knows, maybe as a lawyer)*, something which means Mike has already been pre-conditioned to hate paperwork- he gets it from his dad.

Thing is almost ANY job involves paper work on some level though- I just think Mike’s dad probably had to deal with more than the average worker would have to usually. And hate it. Or heck maybe he was weird and even liked it and Mike was adamanent he wasn’t going to be his dad in that respect or found it boring. Granted this is the thing with so called ‘glamarous jobs’. They’re not really as wonderful as exciting or a clear-cut/easy as the media makes it out to be. I mean tv shows are after al edited. Doctors have a lot of paperwork from my experience. And never stop studying. Not really. Oh and the fact mistakes matter a lot in that gig. Like literally life and death in some cases.

Same could probably be said about other ‘glamarous’ professions like being a lawyer (or a policeman/woman). They tend to involve paperwork, lots of it. But you can’t really escape it anywhere anyway- just some have a lot more for various reasons, usually the ones most kids want to be.

(Though of course paperwork in general just sucks. And no matter what job you do you’re probably going have to do some. I think Mike will have a rude awakening given his paperwork avoidance if that was ever the case because no matter what he goes for it’s just not going to happen).

Well his mom seems the doting type to me…and also makes me think, like some, that Wazowski is an only child.
Maybe that IS one of the reasons I think he’s a lawyer. Maybe Wazowski came home one night and saw his father, literally, under a pile of papers. Easy thought that “I do NOT want to be like that”. taps lip No actually that would condition him to do the opposite AND do his paperwork. Oops, reversal. But yeah, whatever the reason, maybe whatever his father does brought out that struggle Wazowski has with paperwork.

Maybe because he’s doted by his mother, his father insists on a more erm…“dedicated” fashion from Wazowski. Eventually pulling both ways (would explain why his father wasn’t at his cough “show”, though he might have been working. Still…Wazowski considered it a “big deal”, so maybe there is some rough spots with his father somewhere there), his mom won out and he became paperwork-declined.

It’s not to say Wazowski doesn’t do his job right. He does…perhaps getting to Top Assistant if I recall right. Just seems to be paperwork that he struggles with. But he seems to TRY and work on that with all those sticky notes he has in his locker and that he seems to have memorized the “color code” for all those files (puce anybody?). Maybe he distracts himself too much…because OF himself and maybe Celia.