I love Mr. Waternoose and Stinky Pete through the movies. They’re great villains and totally fit into the stories. I have a feeling [spoil]Lotso[/spoil] will be the same way…
I also love stinky pete. I was very sad to see him go at the end. I wouldve loved if he had been converted to a normal toys opinions. Like they take him to andys room and he realizes how wrong he was.
I’m glad they never turned him around, too many movies do that, and I cant think of any believable way to change his mind.
Yeah I completely agree with Kyle. I feel like it would’ve weakened the movie if he just became good at the end.
Awe yes Stinky Pete, I agree. It was much better that he just didn’t turn out good in the end, LOL his punishment was great 
You think so? I thought his punishment was very forced and I never really bought it. How could that girl give him a makeover? It’s easy to paint a Barbie’s face because they’re so small, but Stinky Pete’s features take up most of his face. There’s no way that Amy could make him up without making him look more hideous than he already is. Like I said, I just saw it as a very tacked-on resolution.
Shes a kid, their idea of a make over involves make up. Doesnt matter how ugly something/someone is, in thier eyes its nothing that cant be cured with some lip stick and eye shadow.
I’m always in two minds about his punishment. On the one hand, it’s pretty funny, but on the other hand I don’t think it was perhaps the most creative of endings. It was very convenient though and meant that the resolution of his character wasn’t dragged out too much.
In a way Pete and Waternoose are almost identicle, I’d even go as far as to say Waternoose ripped him off.
Think about it, both are chubby grandfatherly figures, who betray the main characters for fear of kids causing genocide of his kind.
i also believe that stinky pete not being turned around was a good thing. His leaving scene could have been better though. It is all still great in the end.
Out of curiosity, am I the only one who wishes that Stinky Pete had done an evil laugh at some point? Anyone who’s watched The Simpsons knows that Kelsey Grammar has the most awesome evil laugh ever. Of course, it probably wouldn’t have gone with his character, so maybe it’s just as well that Pixar resisted the temptation.
an evil laugh for stinky pete would not have fit his character, sure as heck fit sids character though
Pete’s too much of a ‘serious’ villain to laugh. He doesn’t revel in his work like Sid did (I refer to the laugh when he’s preparing to kill Combat Carl).
Stinky Pete is often all about subtlety- just look at the way he convinced Woody that he was a good guy. He acted so much like the voice of reason so many times, such as breaking up the fight between Jessie and Woody when the TV came on.
Thats a good point. Although he was a bad guy he wasnt as… well, evil hearted as most villians. His motivations could be viewed as good although he certainly did some bad things. I think i almost view him as an antihero type.
I wouldn’t go as far as to put him into the anti hero category. any decent villain thinks he is in the right, and knows how to rationalize their motives to the viewer. not every villain has to be over the top evil like Sid or most other Disney villains.
Yeah, I’d call him a sympathetic villian. Since the movie does a great job of going in-depth with his backstory, you can somewhat rationalize his decisions, however, it’s never enough that you lose track of who the good guys are. Sid didn’t need a reason, he was crazy and evil.
He wasn’t evil he was just a kid who played extreamely hard with his toys.
For all the lengths he went to, I still think he’s evil. I mean, he has a makeshift workbench in his bedroom dedicated to torturing toys. In that deleted scene, we even saw him using his power tools.
But he did not know toys came to plife he was just breaking his property and jhn lasseter said himself on the 10 aniversirey that they did not want avillin just an antagonist.
Dinoco- I can’t see how Sid was evil, really. It’s not as if he knew the toys were alive or anything. He was just messing about with inanimate objects as far as he was aware. And as WoodBuzz101 said, Lasseter himself said they didn’t really want a villain for Toy Story, and I’m sure I recall reading or hearing something about some Pixarians being asked the question, ‘are you more like Andy or Sid?’ and they answered ‘Sid’. What Sid does, though strange, does show just how creative he is.
He’s nowhere near Pete on the ‘villain scale’ as such, anyway. Everything Stinky Pete did, he was aware of the consequences and was happy to do such things behind the other toys’ backs. I agree with Kyle though, that Pete doesn’t really come across as an anti-hero. He’s just perhaps more of a small-time villain who had very believable motivations (unlike a lot of exaggerated villains who seem to perform evil acts for no reason whatsoever). He certainly wasn’t being evil for the sake of being evil- everything he did was a means to an end, but unfortunately this was a very selfish end.