About that last thing you say, LQstudiesPixar, I do enjoy Cars 2 more than the original, but my personal tastes aside, I know it’s an inferior film.
I don’t quite understand that, but okay.
I really think it’s inferior because it’s not as well done. I just have more fun watching it, but personal enjoyment has nothing to do with objective quality.
This. This whole section. When we rented TS3, my dad said people made up their mind before the film came out. Everyone(myself included) was so excited for another run with the gang. And then everyone saw it, and cried, and laughed(hardly) and loved it. But the more I see it, the more I can’t help but examine it. It might have been my most successful first watch for Pixar. I thought I had just come out of The Empire Strikes Back. My mind was blown. However, with each subsequent reviewing, I felt like I was being manipulated. I mean, think about it. In the last hour, think of all the extremely emotional things that happen. They’re trying too hard. I cried like a baby the first, and second time. But now the pathos is just so heavy that I can’t believe it’s really happening. Look at Up for example. Everything is so downplayed with the quiet music and real emotion that you can feel. Subtlety. We need more subtlety in film. TS3 is definitely not a film I like to rewatch. I try to remember it by that first, special viewing. My innocent viewing.
While many here and everywhere would consider it ridiculously inferior to TS3, I really like Brave. I do. There is a lot of suubtlety in the emotional scenes. And they don’t horribly outweigh the comedic scenes. I’m not a fan of comedy. I’m not. But TS3 is like a funeral to me when I re watch it.
Spirit: I see, that makes sense. I usually combine the enjoyment and the quality into one to get my opinion of something. I don’t think it has to be called great or really good. I think that film is at least standard good, though. But there are some silly films I like to watch (not as good as Cars 2), but it’s not like I think they’re so good or anything, they just make me laugh like a goof.
I understand, and agree. I often like bad things, and dislike or hate good things. I understand quality, something many people ignore. It’s good that you can enjoy that thing, but it’s not “good” just because that’s your opinion. And vice versa. But I prefer to just enjoy things. ![]()
SoA: Actually, personal enjoyment does have something to do with quality. They do have something to do with each other, otherwise, why would I watch something? Regardless, I think I get what you’re saying. But I’m just glad Pixar is glad with their film. I really don’t want anyone there to think they messed up, it’s a great film on both levels.
Me too. If I can’t just have fun with a film every once in a while, I might go nuts. And same for Brave. I know parts are familiar to other movies, but I enjoy how honest both of these films feel. You never feel like it was scripted or phoned-in even a little.
Me too! I love the ones I can watch over and over. Those are my favorites, the ones I can re watch the most.
This goes to show how subjective this is.
To me, TS3 is one of the films with the most re-watching value, and I don’t feeling forced, overly emotional or depressing, and I do think that the comedy outweighs the drama in that film (not that there would be anything slightly wrong if it was the other way around)
Anyway, I think they’ve got the title of this thread right, which doesn’t happen often. “Is there one you love less?” acknowledges the subjectivity of it. Others could have called it “Which is the worst film in the canon?”, or something like that, which is an objective question that will get subjective answers anyway.
I love them the same.
That’s why I titled the thread that! I always value quality over opinions. But it’s good to know opinions too.
And I prefer drama. I’m okay with something that has no comedy. But there’s something about TS3 that makes me uncomfortable. It’s too much. And if it were anything else, it might not be. It seems like they’re relying on our love of the characters from previous films. But I digress.