But Pixar doesn’t owe you anything. As lizardgirl said, Randall is their character, they can do whatever they want with him. They probably don’t have the time to write back to you, and nor should they feel obliged to. Imagine if everyone on this forum wrote to Pixar critising them for what happens to their favourite character in their films. They wouldn’t have time to create future films. Pixar is a movie studio, but they do not owe you an explanation.
So Pixar is the “almighty” then. You know…if allot of people disliked them…and didn’t see their films…Pixar wouldn’t have the money to make more and they wouldn’t BE a movie studio anymore.
If they don’t owe us anything, they don’t owe the rest of the world anything. You go ahead with everybody else who isn’t owed if that’s what you think. But don’t blame us for sticking with what we believe in just because someone can do whatever they want.
I listen when a person talks. And in that category at least, I’m better than Pixar.
Holy Porsche, folks! You guys are turning this into a bigger deal than what it already is! Especially you, Nexas and pitbulllady. You keep giving these comments that turn up the heat of this argument.
Since I am posting in this topic, I will express my views of what it was originally intended to be. This isn’t a “let’s back up Randall from Monsters Inc.” topic, this thread was about the replies Pixar gives or doesn’t give their fans.
Okay, come on! These people work harder than most of us work in a day creating these spectacular movies that are extremely hard to make. Ya’ll try making just ONE movie that is completely computer animated, tries its best to make it realistic, and come up with a story that will capture everyone’s heart, and at the same time, be with your own family and going on in life like a normal person. Go ahead and do that in the amount of time you’re given in life… THEN I will listen to your negative views about Pixar being a failure to their fans by not replying to their letters. Ya know, if they tried to answer all these letters fans give them, they wouldn’t get any movies done… then people like YOU wouldn’t have anything to talk about on here anymore. So this is NOT an intentional thing done by Pixar. We all only have so much time, and they manage their time as best they can, same as we do (or at least some of us do…). That’s right, Pixar doesn’t OWE YOU anything. They’ve given you masterpieces of their genius imagination. They’ve given all of us here a reason to create and unite on this website even. So, stop complainin’ about Pixar. A true fan wouldn’t…
And yeah, tone it down. Some of you are being just ridiculous. If there’s to be anymore of this disrespect and ridiculous criticism, I think this thread should be locked.
And apparently like most, you aren’t getting this is still on topic…
blinks I don’t need to reply to that bit as I had already expressed I am aware of Pixar’s work.
What a TRUE fan would no is to not blindly accept everything and anything. Take a look at the Harry Potter fandom. I myself am only just aware of it in it’s lingering approach. The true fans of the fandom have negative criticism to say about the last book in the series, Deathly Hallows. Honestly, I have the book and completed it…and I honestly don’t see what the problem is. Granted though, I haven’t read the other books, aside from Azkaban (though I have seen all the films to date). But I respect that yes, some things might be considered wrong. I also respect that the writer, J.K. Rowling, came from a “rags to riches” life, and I’m glad of that.
You’d have to understand that this is about a particular topic on Pixar, not Pixar as a whole. If they were willing to at least listen, then things are cool.
Whatever… and that just proves my point that you, nexas, are adding fuel to the fire.
I wasn’t talking to you directly, nexas, so you didn’t have to reply to it.
I do NOT blindly accept anything and everything given by Pixar. Obviously you didn’t get my point. I said to stop complaining about Pixar not being able to reply to every stinkin’ letter ya’ll send them. I said nothing about accepting everything about their works and movies. I’ve given a fair amount of my own criticism on all the Pixar movies, most of which were given on my most favorite, Cars. I was backing Pixar up though because they’re not capable of doing everything you ask of them. And I don’t think it’s fair when they give give give, and all you do is ask for more: “Send me a letter now or I will talk badly and disrespectfully about you.” rolls eyes That’s basically what ya’ll are doin’. Sounds crazy, but really it’s the truth.
Again they give give give and all ya do is ask for more. Don’t make me say it again. We’re just going in circles here with what you keep saying. I don’t see as why they are supposed to be obligated to answer every stinkin’ letter ya’ll send them! I know them very well, and it is not their intention to “crush” any of their fans! However they can’t do everything, so they manage their time, answering some and working with the movies the rest, which I think is done very wisely. Ya know why I fail to see why you think they should? It’s because they DON’T have to answer ANY letters! It’s nice of them to answer the ones that they do! They DO NOT have to feel obligated to answer all those letters.
And keep in mind, when I say fans, I mean all around the world… not just in the US. Try answering all the world’s letters. Go ahead, try it.
(I apologize for any improper English… it’s just how I talk and type when I’m defending someone…)
I’m not adding fuel. You just didn’t see the topic parts.
“people like YOU”…and since you commented that I was turning up the heat despite trying to get people to understand, I happen to be in that category since you were trying to make a point yourself.
The point is not them not replying to every letter. It is of them not replying to ANY of them. You think in eight years just ONE piece would be answered or even commented on?
Personally I felt Cars drew much from “Doc Hollywood”, which is why I like the sequel idea of “taking the cars on the road”…of course that’s not to say the original Cars wasn’t good. I enjoyed it.
brushes off shirt Eight years is a long time to wait.
Now your repeating yourself. You being just as angry as some of them around here…
Now that is indeed childish. Nobody is perfect enough to do such a task. chuckles Well ok there is jolly old man in a red suit who tries his best, but that’s letters for children (note this not an insult, which you’ll probably take it that way unless I explain, but simply a comical jest on the task)
You don’t have to apologize to anyone…people get…angry and…well improper sometimes.
blinks Don’t you understand then? At least partly in the way how some Randall fans get? They’re defending someone too and sometimes they get…improper…or angry or frustrated…it’s just how some thing go.
We’re not aiming to bash Pixar. They are the greatest animation studio out there. There are some aspects however, that we are aware of that affects that image. We would be happy if Pixar proved those aspects were false…which is why we’re asking so much for answer…
Pixar DOES reply to most of their letters! I’ve seen proof! Here’s just a little and it’s on this very website… sure, it’s about autographs, but some have replies to letters these fans have sent to them…
pixarplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2753
Yes, I admit it, I was getting a bit angry and repeating myself. I’m just as passionate about my own personal views on this subject as you are.
chuckles Yes, I agree. Nobody can reply to all the letters given from the world (excepting Santa, lol). No, I didn’t take it as an insult because I have the same opinion. But my point of that was that not one person can do everything.
I have no hatred of Randall fans. In fact, I think it’s rather an excellent observation to see him as not being evil but mainly a mere victim of stress and frustration and having a heart underneath all of it.
I understand what you’re saying. But I don’t think it’s fair to appear to doubt such a fantastic company of people. Some people on this thread have done so. I know ya’ll really would like a reply from them, but there IS proof that they do reply to fan mail. And here’s an idea, why don’t ya send them another letter? Maybe that one will make it into the time they have to answer their fan mail. It’s just an idea.
Yes, but autographs are still praise…and besides…the letters we are informing about are the one’s we’ve sent. The thing is…is that it seems it’s our letters that are on the sorta “ignore” list. Yes yes, there are probably millions sent a week…but if they are able to reply to one letter, get someone to sign an autograph (especially someone important), and send it…why can’t they just reply to ONE of ours…I mean…in some ways it’s kinda unfair.
It’s alright. shrugs Passion’s not always a bad thing. And we all get angry, none of us can’t.
Indeed. No one person has that power…and even if somebody DID…well…“absolute power corrupts absolutely”.
Really? You DO? blinks Well…that shows that the little heat before was solely on about Pixar…good…blows breath Hopefully that informs everyone else not to bring it up again and start the fires again.
We have been. However…I have encourage before that sending letters is indeed not so hopeless. Someone on here had indeed claimed that they felt sending letters again and again would be a futile effort…though I still encourage them…sighs I honestly wish for a response so this unfortunate outcome can turn around.
I know, it is a bit unfair. But again, no one has time for everything.
Yes, I do. It always seemed to me hat there was more to Randall’s character than was given. A “more than meets the eye” concept. Pixar’s a bit known for that… picking some who are not always the main characters and giving a bit of a background for them. For example, Mo in Wall-E. So, yes, I’ve always found Randall fascinating to think about.
Agreed. It isn’t hopeless…
I know I should understand that. I do…just…the circumstances make it much more stressful…
Thank you for saying that. I mean they work with him very well. It’s a great opportunity. I mean we SEE Buddy Pine’s past, Muntz too. Why not do it for Ran? I mean make a plot to beat out Dreamwork’s Oobermind in the “redemption” category.
Mo actually seems straight forward to me ^0^ An obessive compulsive cleaner laughs Oh man oh jeez…I just thought of this. Mo…is short for MONK ^0^
Indeed…
Duh, I said MO, I meant Burn-E. Sorry, my bad! I say that because they did the little short for him.
And that was good! “Mo is short for Monk!” LOL! He is a bit of a neat freak;
Actually I’m unsure WHY they picked Burn-E for a short 0_0 He just appeared for a few seconds…but glad they did. It’s always good to see such things
Indeed ^^ But like Mo, a good guy ^^
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chuckles It’s alright Phileas. Me, Sally, and even ffdude had a talk over this heated discussion and have come to terms with another on this matter for the time being. The fire, at present, is now just some smoke
“They don’t respond to letters”
Yeah they do. Just go to the “how to get a pixarian autograph” thread and you’ll see that they do. I’ve received a very creatively handwritten postcard from them a few months ago, and a lot of other people have received replies. Sometimes they don’t reply because they’re busy and stuff gets lost in the mail, but they do their best.
“don’t seem to keep tabs on the most-obvious source of fan bases, the internet.”
Which is why some of them have accounts here? And they have a twitter, and really detailed websites for all their films, and digital download exclusives, etc etc etc…
Also, other examples of Pixar paying attention to the fandom includes…
-A WALL-E fan called them wondering what WALL-E’s height was, and ended up getting not only that, but also his top speed and his weight.
-Releasing a bonus Up short to the internet for free after much complaining about already having the DVD and not wanting to buy it again from iTunes to see it.
If you mean Pixar doesn’t pay attention much to people asking them to make certain movies, then well, yeah. That’s kinda part of their claim to fame is throwing demand and demographics to the wind and just making good films. And it works.
Netbug, what you said! These are good examples that Pixar does respond to their fan base. Sure, they don’t always respond, but the people there are busy creating the movies we all love!
About the whole Randall thing. This has nothing to do with you Randall fans in paticular, I’m just speaking in general. I could be talking about, uhm, nemo fans instead! So please, don’t take offence .
I think Pixar shouldn’t defend the use of any of their characters to people who have a problem with it. It is their choice what to do with their characters, not the fans! However, if you guys do send a lot of letters, mails etc. Pixar will notice it, and they might take it in to consideration. But you can’t honestly expect them to write whole letters back explaning why they made this and that choice? It just doesn’t work that way.
So in the end, I feel Pixar does enough for their fans. At lest, I’m satisfied with them .
Hopefully THIS will be my last post in this thread.
NO film company has the right to deny that certain fanbases exist (which is part of why we’re contacting them in the first place; they’ve NEVER directly responded to ANYTHING from ANYONE on our paticular subject. Even an ackowledgment that they got at least one of our letters and other forms of contact would be nice).
Nonetheless, I appreciate that you two are trying to find middle ground.
But Pixar DOESN’T ignore their fanbase. They just don’t accept their story ideas. They have made this clear on their website and if they ignore somebody who ignored this, can you really blame them? Heck, due to legal reasons, they may not even be allowed to look at them. Some companies have that policy and if a secretary sees such in the mail they are forced to throw it out.
rubs temple Why am I not surprised it wasn’t left alone…sighs
What Pitbulllady means by “dear john” letters, I presume, is the instance that the letter is of praise or asking for such things as an autograph. Evidently it’s basically flattery. Which is alright…
But the thing is, is that it SEEMS that that is ALL they would reply to.
We all know about the the dying girl. In fact, I was deeply moved that Pixar went and did that. It was a virtuous act, and one people should start emulating these days.
But to some, very few…it’s kinda hard to ignore a dying girl right in front of you than…ehh…nevermind this isn’t something I want to talk about, I don’t want to seem as if she is any less…I feel great for that girl…
It’s alright Ch…uhh…CV. Though we are generally the ones who deal with these matters…
But the point is…not ONE? Not a SINGLE ONE? Heck, not even a “please don’t suggest this” or something like that despite the fact that we are NOT asking them to change, but to consider.
I do remember something about a girl who drew a fish that looked like Nemo and it was claimed Pixar took their idea from that, though that is something Pixar tries to not do…
And I understand that. It’s rather insulting when someone claims you stole something, and in this instance you didn’t, when you create something.
But the thing is we are NOT forcing in asking them to change things, we’re only suggesting. Sure, some things we want to know. Questions. Like that Wall-e one. We’re not trying to be paparazzi, but we at least would like to be heard ourselves.