Wow, that is just…low.
Apparently his son was killed as well. He would have probably grown up to be just like his father anyway.
Can’t say anything on the son myself, I have no clue. Though considering he was with him it’s certainly possible and likely he would have agreed with his father’s methods and then maybe become a potential leader. I mean unless it somehow turns out he was trying to kill him too. (That would be a weird unexpected twist. Thogh exceedingly unlikely.).
I may be wrong here but I think he had several kids and at least one of them (… Omar?) hated his violence- so he had to hide himself somewhere to keep himself and his 2nd wife safe.
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Edit: Nah turns out with Omar he’s in denial about his dad and thinks he had a ‘kind heart’, but personally felt bad and sorry about 9/11 and all.
Seems to me the guy has some issues.
Apparently though he was far from the best father according to his book. Why am I not surprised?
Though he does want to be an amabassador of peace. First I think he has to admit his father just wasn’t a ‘kind hearted man’ though.
I think the guy is more than a tad confused.
Well according to Wikipedia, it turns out one of his sons pleaded him to stop killing innocents. If you look at the history of the Bin Laden family, you’ll see that Osama could have devoted his life to being someone alot more civilised, but he instead devoted it to killing innocents and starting wars. Shame.
I heard a report on the TV news about his use of ‘meat shields’. It’s certainly not going to help his case in the afterlife…
I have posted a detailed contemplation on the nature of taking a human life and whether it is ever justified on my Tumblr blog. Feel free to read about it and retweet/reply.
But in a nutshell, I won’t be losing any sleep over his death. It’s just that, like mentalguru, I felt it would’ve been much more satisfying for him to be trialed at the ICJ as an example instead of simply making him a martyr.
I don’t know what to think,when I first heard it I was more shocked than anything else…but for some reason I’m having a hard time believeing this.It just feels…fishy… 
But he paid for his actions though,I think he deserved it…
Your skepticism is not unwarranted, CarsLuver. I’m also awaiting photographic evidence before we call it a concrete fact. Even then, there’s always possible fabrication, and conspiracy theorists will not doubt have a field day over this (some of them posit 9/11 was committed by the U.S. government, or that America never landed on the Moon, for example).
My brother was joking that Osama would suddenly show up on Skype and taunt the world that the U.S. lied about his death and do a funny dance in front of the camera.
But if he is indeed dead, this is a great day for peace and religious moderation everywhere.
Apparently, one thing that’s keeping from the conclusion of his death is the fact that they dumped this body in the ocean, which doesn’t make much sense considering that we’d need evidence of his death.
Lots of people in New York City threw some kind of celebration party in Ground Zero after learning this. Maybe they’re getting a bit too excited since the war-on-terror isn’t over yet. There seems to be alot of anti-American comments on this video too:
awesome news, a death of a person is not anything to feel proud, but this guy killed thousands of INNOCENT people, I guess he kind of deserved
finally the hide and seek game is OVER
The only questain now is will al Qaeda now get get revenge on us for killing him.
I just can’t bring myself to feel bad about celebrating this death. Yeah, its human life and all that, but there comes a point when I can’t stop thinking of you that way, and needless to say he’s far, far, far past that point.
Unfortunately, according to my mom, she said that Al Qaeda said we will suffer so badly we’ll “forget Vietnam,” or something like that. She actually thinks that something like DisneyWorld or DisneyLand could be a possible target; they are huge, with lots of people, and most of all, Disney is one of the most recognizable and beloved symbols of Western culture there is. Hopefully not true.
Justice has been brought to all of those impacted by the 9/11 attacks. i’m glad to know that the snake has been decapitated. But be wary. Don’t think that this isn’t over. I am scared that there might be retaliations. But we can treat this event a great moment for peace all over the US.
Ophidiophiliacs might beg to differ, TSS, but I get the metaphor. I’d say that the Devil incarnate has finally been defeated.
I read news reports that Osama didn’t choose to surrender and fired back at the SEAL team. So I guess his execution was warranted in the justification of self-defense. I’m just a little skeptical that the U.S. government is not releasing any pictures yet (although I understand the nature of its sensitivity and how it might incite the extremists) and that they have conveniently dumped his body in the ocean (with proper funeral rites, of course).
Part of me wished that they had taken him alive so that we can seek answers to why he did his horrendous crimes. Maybe he can write a bestselling autobiography that will no doubt sell like hotcakes in insurgent camps.
I just wonder whether they could’ve captured him with non-lethal means. You know, like smoke his house out with an incapacitating agent before going in. I advocate non-lethal capture methods to reduce loss of lives, both of the suspect, and, as the poor woman who was used as a meat-shield has shown, innocent civilians.
I’ve made my opinions on the matter clear on another thread, but I think it’s more appropriate I state them here.
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I really wish he hadn’t died. I understand that the SEALS did what they had to do safely. But it would of been better if he was captured and in prison. Because A) he’s now a martyr for people of his cause to look up to, follow, and even die for and B) How is he being punished by dying? Many people say Hell, but I’d rather him face Hell on Earth first, in a prison. Paying for his crimes.
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I know he was in charge of 9/11. I think he’s a despicable lunatic with no regard for human life. But ethically, I can’t celebrate anyone dying. I’m happy he’s not around anymore. But I’m not sleeping safer. I’m actually more afraid than ever, of retaliation. He celebrated the deaths of 9/11. I’m not going to celebrate his death. But I think it’s hyproctical to celebrate his death, we’re all mad about him celebrating the deaths of those americans! I’m not stooping to his level. I’m glad he was caught, and by my homeland, USA! But I’m not going to get a flag and parade around town about it.
i just wanted to thank you for writing this, because it sums up my views perfectly. i’ve been sitting here for like, EVER, trying to write out how i feel but of course i couldn’t because i fail like that.
as happy as i am that he’s been stopped, i can’t be happy about somebody’s death. i just can’t bring myself to do it, no matter how awful that person was. not that i’m /upset/ about it in any way shape or form , i’m just not going to go around celebrating it is all.
really worried about retaliation now, too.
Osama was sure to be executed in any case IMO rather than prison (though he would have had a little while there), but still a trial could have been interesting as well as eventually helped in the arresting of potential successors. But there would have been a risk until then all the same (probably hostages etc. which would never work in negotiations- even if they kidnapped the US President himself.) Osama was dead either way though I think. But still as mentioned there’s that poor woman to think about. Does she have a name yet?
There’s some things we’ll never really know unfortunatly.
I thing the thing that also gets my goat about the human shield (not just the fact someone else lost their life like that) is that’s it’s so hypocritical of him. He sends off these young men to kill themselves, and the vast majority completely and utterly believe they’re doing what god wants and they’ll be rewarded in the afterlife (hence they do not really fear death for themselves or comfort themselves with this thought if they do fear it a bit as most possibly would- or at least silence any potential nagging doubts they may possibly have…after all those who have done it? There’ a fair number and they can’t talk now.) And yet Osama does everything he can to save his own life after telling them this through the interpretations he’s taken of their holy book that it’s glorious to kill themselves and not fear death and take ‘the infidel’ with them.
It’s bull like this which makes you wonder if he even really believed it himself deep down. I mean if he did, why the heck didn’t he have something of his own to take other people out with him instead of using a meat shield? Why didn’t he even go down fighting if he was such a big believer?
Obviously I don’t agree what with the terrorists are doing- but his followers utterly believe they are 100% right and in a way are willing to put their money where their mouth is in the fact they take themselves down along for the ride.
This kind of seems like he didn’t really believe it himself which makes it even worse for all those men he helped convince that he was a part of some ‘Truth’.
And while PETA, disgusting as they are, aren’t half as bad it’s kind of like the fact one of their leaders uses insulin while screaming about people using animal products. I don’t agree with them at all but it shows they are hypocritical to boot.
I hate what Osama’s followers do, but they utterly -believe- in it. And belief is powerful. It may not move mountains but with enough believers you could possibly do it with their collective manpower anyway.
Osama’s last actions before his death kind of tell a different story to what he was telling his men to do. He did not die in any ‘dignified’ way whether this comes from a terrorist or regular persons perspective.
It’s kind of pathetic actually how he died. It’s possible though he may achieve ‘martyr’ status if his followers think the US forces are lying about what exactly happened and he died in a different way though. But if they believe the details…?
(I mean let’s face it, using some living person as a human meat shield is pretty much the most cowardly and pathetic way to go down.)
I seriously do not believe that the leaders of f attacks like 9/11 actually think they are doing it for God. Many of these people are extremely intelligent, and know to use God as motivation for their followers. But, in the end, they are only really trying to achieve power.
Its the same as the Crusades–The soldiers thought they were fighting for God because that’s what they were told, but the man who called for them, the Pope, really only realized that he was losing his power as the one unification in Europe as the countries became more uniform. And metalguru is right: if Bin Laden really thought he was killing for God, wouldn’t he have accepted an honorable death for God instead of trying to use a human shield?
I’m kind of glad we didn’t allow him to get a funeral service because then he would have definitely been made a martyr and venerated by his followers, which we should not want. Though we did try to offer his body to his home country of Saudi Arabia and they refused it. Good for them.
I’m thrilled he’s gone. It makes me feel safer. But then, I think about retaliations and what not, and I get scared all over again. It just strikes me that people can be so heartless, and that the leaders of 9/11 had so much hate in their hearts. I don’t understand what could motivate someone to not only kill thousands, but die in the process. It doesn’t make sense. And in a way, I’m happy I don’t understand. But, I’m happy he’s dead, and I’m so proud of how my little hometown Philadelphia responded. At the Phillies game, when everyone started chanting USA, it just filled me with patriotism, even if it was at someone’s death.
I see some Anti American’s going “American’s are evil. They are Nazi’s and need to die, worst country ever.” I hate people who do that.
^ I don’t even get it! Like, I’m an American, and I don’t consider myself evil in any way. It’s not like we’re in some secret alliance club or something, aren’t we all just people? That’s what I don’t get. If they don’t like us, fine. But they don’t have to kill Americans. What do they get out of it? Nothing.
It’s not that they don’y like us really. Their jealous, they wanna be American too, but they say bad thing’s about it to make them feel better. That’s what my dad say’s.