Tangled

Well it’s not like Flynn had much of choice on how long her hair was cut. He just got what he could hold and swoosh.
If you meant the artists and writers and whatnot, I think they cut it that short to make it a real shocker ending, to make the audience feel like they, and Rapunzel, really lost something.

Exactly, I mean the filmmakers.

It’s true what you say about the shock (You don’t expect Rapunzel to have short hair). But my real problem is that it appears to be purposely stylished.

The only real opinion I have about the hairstyle in the end is that it reflects Rapunzel’s character development. Even though her long, blonde locks were useful, I also felt like they were somewhat of a burden and held her back; her hair was the reason she was captured and trapped in a tower for so many years. Then, when the hair is chopped off, Rapunzel’s pretty much free and that’s represented, in a sense, through her hair, which is lighter and has sort of a free, untamed style.

But… that doesn’t mean I like the hairstyle, either. 8D

What you said makes sense ^^, but I don’t like that hairstyle.

Oh, no, of course it totally works on a dramatic point of view.

I just didn’t want it to look so modern.

In that case, I’m not sure how else they would have achieved the same idea with a different hairstyle. Maybe just a slightly longer style and the same length all around (no layering)? I agree that it’s too modern as well. Actually, what’s sad is that it’s was a style more popular a few years ago. Not so much now. 8D

Yes, that’s what I mean. Not layered.

I wonder if she ever wanted to go back to be a blondie.

I often wondered about her facial design. Because they had to find color and style that would look good both with the long blonde hair, and then again when it’s got that whispy brunette look to it. I used whispy to describe how some portions of her hair stuck out after the slicing.

Well, actually, yeah. If we didn’t know any better, we’d think that Flynn actually had time to cut her hair. “Okay, darling, your stepmomma will be here in a few minutes, and just to be safe, I’m cutting off your magical lovely hair. Tsk. what a waste, it was sooooo beautiful!” snip, snip. “Hold still, honey, almost done. Okay, there! Oh my gosh, you look faaaaabulous. And to think I didn’t even have to dye it! I always did have a thing for brunettes.”

Haha. I love speculation.

Did anybody notice the scene where Flynn gets stabbed and Gothel falls to her death is simular to a scene in Beauty and the Best?

Yes, it is very similar. One thing that freaks me out, there is no blood on the dagger. 8D

And yes, her hair really was too modern. Besides, back then, wasn’t is bad for ladies to have short hair?

That’s something i hate about Dinsey. A lot of deaths involve falling.

Well, the reason is that most of them must be accidental. It’s like a code for them. The hero can’t directly kill the villain.

So falling is an easy way of accidentally dying.

I still think it’s kinda over used.

Like Batman? 8D

The falling thing is rather common, but I think Disney should stick with it when appropriate. With a villain falling to their death, the hero(ine) isn’t responsible (as SOA said), there’s sort of a metaphor of a decline in power, and another important thing IMO is that the death is off-screen. In some movies, like Cinderella, we don’t even know whether [spoil]Lucifer has died.[/spoil] When Disney/Pixar try something other than a fall, the result is somewhat disturbing… Think Tarzan, The Incredibles, The Little Mermaid… I’m not saying I dislike those death scenes, but little kids might be scared.

It’s exactly the same rule, yes.

Not only the hero doesn’t kill them himself, but sometimes the “accident” is due to the villain’s own actions, so the poetic justice is stronger.

Think in the witch’s fall in Snow White, the very first Disney film. Same goes to Gothel and her reflection, and Pixar has done the same, the most evident case Charles Muntz’s death, caused by his own madness (I advice to watch the short documentary “The Many Ends of Charles Muntz” to see a detailed explanation of that decision).

Their’s still other ways the villain dies and it’s their faught.

I know it’s slightly off-topic (but Tangled is included :stuck_out_tongue: ), but I just made a list of all the ultimate fates of the Disey villains in every film from the Canon (except those who are more like a short film collection, like the Fantasias, Winnie the Poohs and such)

Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs
The Witch falls due to her own intent to kill the dwarfs.

Pinocchio
The villains don’t die on screen.

Dumbo
There’s no real villain. Just antagonists who made fun of Dumbo. Most of them get ridiculousness at the end, but that’s all.

Bambi
The antagonistic hunters remain unseen during all the film.

Cinderella
The step family isn’t horribly punished as in the original story, and we don’t see their fate. Lucifer falls, but he probably doesn’t die cause he’s a cat.

Alice In Wonderland
The antagonists don’t get punished, but they’re not real, of course. Alice simply wakes.

Peter Pan:
Hook falls to the sea due his own stupidity (if Pan cheats a little, but not enough to make him guilty) and has to escape the crocodile, but apparently he never gets eaten by it.

Lady And The Tramp
An interesting exception, all the antagonists (the rat, the cats, the mad dogs and the Dogcatcher) are harmed by the main characters at some point, but none of them dies except the rat, ho was about to damage the baby, and isn’t portrayed as an intelligent animal like the others.

Sleeping Beauty
Maleficent is actually killed by the prince! Anyway, she’s portrayed almost devil-like, and it can be argued that the sword (a magic sword that by the way represents truth and justice) kills her on its own.

101 Dalmatians
Cruella and her henchmen crash on a cliff, due to their own fault and don’t get harmed.

The Sword In The Stone
Madam Mim gets infected by Merlin, but he doesn’t kill her, and actually tries to cure her (punishing her at the same time by making her take sunlight)

The Jungle Book
Shere Khan is faced to his feared fire, but he doesn’t die and just runs away.

The Aristocats
Edgar gets mailed to Africa, due to his own evil plan, but that’s all.

Robin Hood
All villains are imprisoned and sent to do hard work.

The Rescuers
Medusa is about to get eaten by her own crocodiles, so it counts as being her own fault.

The Fox And The Hound
The bear falls and dies while fighting Tod, but it’s not the hero’s fault. Also, Slade is victim of one of his own traps, but he survives. It’s an act of poetic justice, as he later redeems himself by sparing Tod’s life.

The Black Cauldron
The heroes actually go on a quest to destroy the Horned King, and he’s later defeated by Gurgi’s sacrifice and the cauldron’s magic, so nobody directly kills him.

The Great Mouse Detective
Just like in the original Holmes story, Ratigan falls with Basil while trying to kill him. Just like in the original, the hero’s life is spared by fate, but the villain perishes.

Oliver & Company
In his maniac pursuit, Sykes and his dogs get killed, but the heroes don’t play a part on it.

The Little Mermaid
Eric turns the wheel of the ship with the intention to kill Ursula. An unusual move for the hero.

The Rescuers Down Under
This one is a shocker, cause Bernard actually pushed McLeach to the waterfall. Just like in the first film, the villain’s pet betrays him and, yes, he meets his death by falling.

Beauty And The Beast
Gaston is spared by the protagonists, but he betrays them and stabs the Beast. This is punished by fate, as he accidentally falls from the roof.

Aladdin
Jafar isn’t killed, but is defeated by his own greed, even is Aladdin cleverly incites him to make the wish.

The Lion King
Very much like Gaston, Scar is spared by Simba, and then betrays him and falls. Then he becomes a victim of his own and gets killed by the hyenas.

Pocahontas
Ratcliffe is caught by his own men and brought to justice.

The Hunchback Of Notre Dame
Frollo falls to his death due an accident while trying to kill Quasimodo. The reason why the gargoyle breaks is open to debate, but my personal theory is that he gets defeated by his own conscience, which was afraid of the gargoyles as they witnessed his foul crime at the beginning of the film (The very eyes of Notre Dame)

Hercules
Hercules simply punches Hades, but he would have survived if he hadn’t been dragged by his own victims.

Mulan
Mushu purposely kills Shan Yu, but he’s a deity, so it can be interpreted that that spirits made justice.

Tarzan
Clayton is killed by his own actions. He also falls, but this time he’s killed by being accidentally hanged on a vine.

Dinosaur
One of the carnotaurs is killed by Bruton and the other by Aladar (and yes, this one falls), but they’re both heroic acts intended to protect loved ones.

The Emperor’s New Groove
Yzma doesn’t die, but is accidentally knocked out by his own henchman Kronk, all in a humoristic way. She’s then punished by being tormented by Kronk and the kids.

Atlantis: The Lost Empire
Rourke is defeated mainly due to his henchwoman Helga, who was previously betrayed by him, so the hero don’t gets his hands dirty.

Lilo And Stitch
Gantu is taken to justice by his superiors.

Treasure Planet
Both the villain and the hero save each other’s lives. Jim then breaks the law by helping Silver escape justice.

Brother Bear
Not villain here. The bears and humans kill each other out of fear and need and reconcile at the end.

Home On The Range
Alameda Slim is arrested by the authorities.

Chicken Little
Like Brother Bear, extraterrestrials and… farm animals? attack each others due a misunderstanding, but then reconcile. No villain here.

Meet The Robinsons
The hero destroys Dory by creating a paradox and never inventing her, but doesn’t technically kills her (and besides, she’s a robotic hat), while Goob is saved by the hero and never gets to become a villain.

Bolt
The antagonists are the producers of the show, and they don’t get harmed, but the heroes get free of them.

The Princess And The Frog
Facilier isn’t defeated by the heroes, but the voodoo spirits get him for not paying his debt, so it’s his own fault too.

Tangled
Gothel is tripped from the tower by Pascal, but she doesn’t die from the fall, as she turns to dust before hitting the ground. So she actually dies because the spell was broken.

I think Clayton had the most gruseme death. You see the shadow of his dead hanging body.