Heh, only in the following situations:
- You’re being bad.
- Singing “Sunday Clothes” incessantly.
You’re almost doing both all the time, so I do both all the time. 
Oh yeah?
Well, I will find a way to get you…
Steal your iPod touch…
Cheat in Sonic games…
And when your get your WALL-E toy, I get you good. Steal him away. He shall be my WALL-E unit 2 and I shall get 2 EVEs, EVE 1 and EVE 2.
I squish little boogers that drain my life supply of boredom, and YOU’RE ONE!!!
Everyone hears distant screaming in the background
Got you!
You meanie.
You two are so funny XD
Welcome to our humble little forum, Blessed Light. I’ve thought that EVE’s kiss at the beginning of the space dancing was an important shift in the storyline, rather than the last kiss.
Anyways, the plant was Wall-E’s. EVE arrogantly absconded it. It was clearly one of his most prized possessions. Why she was so mad at him… well, it’s odd too that she had to scan an image of her security camera and didn’t seem to have direct access to its contents. But reliving those events caused EVE to fall in love with Wall-E, her seeing his dedication.
That wasn’t her original directive. It was shown to be finding the plant (Mission: Accomplished) then getting the plant to the ‘Axiom supervisor’, presumably the Captain and not Auto. That was the Captain’s responsibility to decide what to do with the plant once it had been positively ID’d by the ships computer scanner. He found this information in the Operations Manual. EVE later examined her directive while in the garbage scowl, and since she had already gone up to the Captain with it, and failed, she gave up! Remember this was the 2nd time she had gone up there, why try a 3rd time. She had done her duty. When she tried to hold Wall-E’s hand then was she overriding her directive with a new one that she had concocted? This is debatable, but I think when Wall-E convinces her to take the plant back and get to Earth, she becomes very assertive (because she wants to help Wall-E, but also because it has crystallized that helping him will also fulfill the somewhat incomplete directive). She still might be confused as to how to go about it after the previous failures. Then the Captain orders EVE to put it in the holo-detector. Now the movie clearly refocuses on this interrupted chain of events and EVE knows exactly where to go*. This had never been her responsibility until the Captain orders it.
That is the moment the two threads in the storyline come together: (1)Wall-E’s/EVE’s need for hand holding and (2)the plant saving the earth / people getting back to the earth / Wall-E getting the spare parts he needs to repair himself. You can think of it as two vines coming together or two pieces of uranium fusing with a bright light.
*Remember too, there are lots of little kiddies and spoonfed adults in the audience who need reminding of what is going on. If a 5 year old kid gets too squirmy, mom might just pick up the whole crew and ask for a refund. Horrors!
Turning Point vs. Point of No Return: hmm, just thought that when Wall-E does a tune on the Repair Ward, it sets in motion a cascade of events.
I can understand what you’re trying to say, although I have to confess that I still disagree on some points, though not all.
- For instance, which kiss EVE gives WALL-E that starts to really change their relationship: the one in space, or the one at the end. Remember, in space, that when EVE realized WALL-E saved the plant, she was so happy and overjoyed that he did so, and as a sign of thanks, she kissed him. That, of course, as lovely as it was (on WALL-E’S part of course!), didn’t stem from EVE’s love for WALL-E. She hadn’t really begun to truly love him yet, even though she was sad to think that WALL-E didn’t make it when the space pod blew up. She, also, was very happy to see that he was alive, but the reason she kissed him wasn’t a sign of her love for him. It was just a spurn-of-the-moment sign of thanks for him helping her directive. Remember how after she kissed him, she said, “Wall-e…” and motioned with her hand as if to say, “Okay…now let’s go back. I still need to get this plant to the Captain.”
When they finally did go back inside the Axiom, WALL-E tried to “propose” to EVE and ask her to hold his hand (obviously touched and moved by EVE’s kiss and their dancing in space)…but still, EVE hadn’t learnt to love WALL-E yet in the same degree that he did. She was still focused and directive-driven to complete her mission. Their dancing in space and her kiss to him wasn’t that special or meaningful enough to her yet to affect a change on her part.
That’s why I believe that at the end, when WALL-E is fixed although his memory is erased, the kiss EVE gives him then is the kiss that changes everything for them finally. EVE is truly heartbroken that WALL-E has “gone” because now she truly loves him. The kiss she gave him not only gave his circuits that one last-needed spark to boot back into life, but, this time, it was because of true love…and, little did she know, that was exactly what WALL-E needed just at that moment!
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I don’t think EVE gave up her directive to deliver the plant to the Captain just for no reason. I don’t think she was thinking, “I’ve already done that; I don’t need to do it again.” In the scene where WALL-E gives the plant back to her, EVE thinks and remembers just how far she and WALL-E have come on her mission because of this plant. She knows it is her purpose, her function, and her directive to follow orders and deliver the plant to the Captain…no matter how many times possible. Although she is a robot, she understands common logic that the plant needs to be returned to the Captain because Auto has just declared munity.
But EVE finally realizes in the garbage hold of the Axiom just how much WALL-E truly loves her (after witnessing her security camera footage) and knows that there is a deeper, more important directive to life that WALL-E has been trying to teach her all along. So, she tosses the plant aside (what an action for her, after being so focused on the little thing!) and holds out her hand to WALL-E, showing him that she understands now…that she has chosen a different directive this time. -
I will agree here, though, when you said that EVE’s old directive was “crystallized” by her new directive – to save WALL-E. I think that’s just a perfect term for the phase of the movie.
When I spoke of EVE putting the plant in the holo-detector for the reason that she wants to save WALL-E (and not just for the reason of saving the humans and accomplishing her original directive), I was actually quoting Andrew Stanton’s words himself. In the audio commentary for the movie, he explains just how determined EVE is now to save WALL-E by “using” her old directive with the plant. -
When EVE picks up WALL-E (and M-O) and blasts out of the garbage hold, she is set on returning the plant to the Captain, just like before…but of course, she’s doing it now because she wants to save WALL-E and not fulfill her directive. That’s when the Captain contacts them and tells them not to take it to him, but to change plans: “Bring the plant to the Lido Deck! I’ll activate the holo-detector!” And so, EVE does so. If you listen to the audio commentary for this part of the movie as well, Andrew Stanton describes how he wanted this phase to join the humans and the robots together on a single mission – fighting against Auto by putting the plant in the holo-detector. EVE wants to do it now because of WALL-E, and the Captain wants to do it for his fellow humans. Both humans and robots have one destination and goal in mind – TO GET TO EARTH – and that’s what Mr. Stanton wanted to create for this part of the film, the sense of comradeship and cooperation.
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Andrew Stanton explains in the commentary that holding hands in public is a sign of a declaration of love. And so, I agree with you in saying that WALL-E had a need to hold EVE’s hand, because it would be a declaration of her love and his love. WALL-E knew (in his simple, humble, innocent heart) that holding hands meant something…meant something wonderful and beautiful. He knew it was love, and that’s what he wanted.
And, in the end, that’s what he got! 
What a beautiful story… I love Pixar!
^ Well said Blessed Light! I thought I fully understood the movie, but now I understand it more. You have awesome writing skills.
Blessed Light: I agree with skunklover, BL. You write very well! And very well said.
I think everybody on this forum has a lot of good things to say, and some wonderful writers just take the words right out of my mouth when I’m trying to desrcibe my feelings and/or opinions about different films and parts in the films.
“WALL-E” is, personally, one of the best stories I have ever known, and I guess that’s why I like writing about it so much!
For me the turning point was the moment the movie started. Once I saw the first shot of the stars and heard “Out There”, I knew this would not be the movie I expected, and that this was clearly a different movie from Pixar standards.
I like how this topic became active again once Wall-E premiered on Disney Channel.
I think define dancing is the Turning point. It really builds the suspense when Kaboom and then Eve screams
“WAll-E!!!”
The first time I saw the movie, I was scared for Wall-E too.
One of Wall-E’s strongest realization points was:
- When he realized he was in love with EVE.
- When he realized he was lonely.
- When he discovered the Axiom.
I was really scared near the end. I’d say most people here were. XD Anyway, I have to agree on Define Dancing for sure.
When i saw the ending, i was like “THIS CANNOT HAPPEN! NO! HOW CAN IT?!!!”
As said before on this thread, there can only be one climax located within the main storyline. I have come to the conclusion that the climax must be when WALL•E sees that EVE is holding his hand at the very end. My reason: because that was what WALL•E had been wanting to do from the very beginning of the movie.
You see, I learned the basic structure of drama follows a pattern: Exposition, Complicating Incident, Rising Action, Climax, Falling Action, and the end (in tragedy, it’s called a catastrophe). Take the play Hamlet for example:
Exposition: Introduction of Characters in Hamlet
Complicating Incident: Hamlet finds out the King Claudius murdered his father
Rising Action: Hamlet plots to take Claudius’s life
Climax: Hamlet refuses to assassinate Claudius
Falling Action: Everything between Hamlet’s accidental murder of Polonius to Ophelia’s burial.
Catastrophe (Ending): Hamlet’s duel with Laertes and subsequent death, deaths of Claudius, Gertrude, and Laertes, Fortinbras becomes king of Denmark.
Using this drama pattern:
Exposition: Introduction of main characters in WALL•E
Complicating Incident: EVE shuts down after she finds the plant, the ship takes her back, and she loses the plant.
Rising Action: Everything between “Define Dancing” and Eve’s repair of WALL•E.
Climax: WALL•E and EVE hold hands
Falling Action: The Captain teaching the kids about farming, and the plants sprouting
Ending: The Credits
Hope that makes some sense. Depending on which storyline you look at, you can create multiple drama threads for each interwoven plot.
Wow, great observations! I like how you layed it all out and used Hamlet as an example. And it all makes sense, are you going to be an English major?
ellie-jessie-eve: No, I’m going to be an art major. And I’m glad you enjoyed my post.
I’m not sure what you mean. Do you mean when the climax starts? The start of the third act? Because if you mean that, I’d say when A113’s purpose is revealed is when everything starts to get crazy.
I was under the belief that he’s talking about the climax.