I agree with you, Reaper. Despite being originally marketed as a comedy, itâs actually a pretty serious movie. But youâve only seen it once? Get the DVD. Now.
The problem was, the movie came out when my friends were all doing that whole âtoo old for animation thingâ. Theyâve gotten over it since we saw TS3 at midnight, but I didnât get to see Ratatouille until recently. Iâm gonna give it more time before I see it again, so I can forget some of the details. Great film though.
Oh, that makes sense.
I think Wall E, alot of it seems about morals, with the economy and everything.
Although I think Toy Story 2 is, without question the most clever Pixar movie.
Iâm pretty sure that Wall-E has nothing to do with the economy.
For me Up, Wall-E, or Toy Story 3. Pretty much all their latest stuff Up dealt with the whole growing old thing, and losing a loved one but learning to move on. Thatâs some pretty intense stuff. And Wall-E was grown up in itâs own way. When I think about it it gives me chills. And I donât even need to say anything about Toy Story 3. Iâve never cried harder at the movies. The last half hour was unbearable to watch but I loved every minute. Anyways, I think theyâre all grown up in their own way.
Up is a good one. I know a few of my friends parents who really related to the scene of Ellieâs death. Because they are older they have more expirience with loved ones dying, and that scene touches them.
Ratatouille and Incredibles haave adult themes as well.
Eco-system was meant*
I got mixed up.
With the eventual otucome of the world from humanâs mistakes etc.
Iâd say definitely Ratatouille, for a number of reasons already mentioned (I particularly agree with the points TDIT made). Even with the underlying adult themes of Wall-E and Up, I thought the basic core plots/characters were things little kids could at least partly get. Right from the first time I saw it, I thought that a kid would have to be old enough to be reading chapter books to get anything out of Ratatouille - I think it is much more complicated in plots and character motivations than the average Pixar film. (Incredibles is somewhat the same, but has the superhero action to engage younger kids.) Iâm still a little surprised that I never heard complaints from âparents groups,â etc. about having the whole Linguini/Gusteau plot in a G-rated âfamily film.â
Iâm going to say that Up addresses more adult themes than any other Pixar release so far. I doubt Cars 2, Brave, or Monsters, Inc. 2 will come close to rivaling it either. Because of this (and many other reasons), Up remains timeless.
1.Ratatouille
2.UP
3.Incredibles
to me those are the most grown-up pixar films.
I like to think Wall-E is pretty up there as well.
WALL-E.
Itâs justâŠa very complex movie. Itâs the Inception of kids movies.
(I havenât seen Inception, but Iâve heard how complex it is.)
(I havenât seen Inception, but Iâve heard how complex it is.)
Iâd see it before you use it as an example.
In regards to WALL-E, itâs pacing and backstory is perhaps more grown up and complex than the story itselfâŠwhich really is rather simple, at least at first glance. I never once found WALL-E difficult to follow; rather, it made me think instead. Inception on the other hand was a mindscrew, and took an awful lot of attention to grasp, which of course is great or terrible depending on the kind of viewer you are .
And thinking about it, every Pixar movie has themes that can be considered as grown up. Even the more âchildishâ ones like Cars and A Bugâs Life. Letâs not forget that scene in ABL where Hopper beats the **** out of Flik; itâs a distressing scene to watch when youâve grown so attached to the character. Standing up for your rights, as well as realising your imperfections like Flik does, are fairly mature themes. Cars too, the backstory of the town becoming defunct, and the echoing of the celeb lifestyle that Lighting so wishes to follow. And when Lightning is asked to bring friends to his party, he realises he has none. Because every Pixar film also covers loneliness in some shape or form.
More obviously, we have Bob Parrâs minor midlife crisis, and his family who are stuck between normality and superiority. âNormal? What do you know about normal!?â, Violet says early on, and that line stands out because it reflects the mundaness of a society who seemingly strives for equality and sameness to the extent where everything is dumbed down. Again, a similar theme is touched upon in Ratatouille.
And then theres abadonment (Toy Story series), losing a loved one (Finding Nemo, UP), dystophia (WALL-E)âŠthese are all adult themes. Every Pixar theme has them, and to an extent, that is part of their appeal to a broad audience
I like how you outlined each movieâs most adult theme, definedancing!!
The Chicken Man, I agree entirely. But watch Inception. Now. Itâs wonderful.
Iâd say Up is the most grown-up. Talking dogs in airplanes look a little childish, but their presence just lightens the movie for children, which is quite serious without them. Really, in most films we see the protagonist gaining his love during the action, but here the actual plot starts after the main character met the one he loved, lived all the life with her and then lost her. Not the happiest start for children, I think. And the movie deals with themes like priorities in life, day-to-day problems that prevent from fulfiling the main dream, losing the people you love, disappointment in idols of the whole life, the meaning of life and happiness themselves, not to mention broken families in Russelâs case. In addition, I can say that Up got my mom much more than any Pixar film.
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This is probably why I dislike Up so much. Thank you for clarifying that.
There are no Pixar movies that are âgrown-upâ in the sense that The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Mulan are grown-up, yet.
There are no Pixar movies that are âgrown-upâ in the sense that The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Mulan are grown-up, yet.
What? How can you say that? Mulan is not grown up. And The Hunchback is pretty much just about being shunned and misled, which is not that grown up. It is dark and the Frollo fettish thing is pretty adult, but I donât understand your post at all.
P.S. If youâre referring to adult humor, i.e. dirty jokes, thatâs every Pixar movie. Even Toy Story.
Yeah Iâm confused. How do you define âGrown up Movieâ?
I really think he is just doing his best to be disagreeable and confusing in every thread.