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Postby Now Has Guilt » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:23 pm

That article on Film is pretty thorough, but I received Art of Up for Christmas, and the writer overlooked one piece of artwork. Dominique Louis did this in 2005:
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I guess that would have been done while Above and Beyond was still in production. It seems that the ideas of floating buildings and balloons were present pretty early on in Up's production. While I realize that this isn't really conclusive evidence, it's still interesting to note.
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Re: Did Pixar rip-off "Above and Beyond" student film?

Postby Sky » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:48 am

I was browsing the Michael Giacchino boards over at IMDb, and a member over there, tam_cajb has hear similarities between the main theme of Up and a piece of music by Spanish composer Alberto Iglesias called "Me Voy a Morir de Amor" which was recorded in 2001. You can google the piece and listen to it on Youtube or listen to a comparison of both tracks, as well as read an article here. There's also another article here.

To be honest, in my opinion, I DO hear similarities between the two pieces, not only with the notes, but the feel of the music too, and it makes me a little bit disappointed. The main Up theme fits the film perfectly but if you are going to take someone's work, you should at least acknowledge them. It's good that millions of people, including families and children got to hear the lovely theme in a Pixar film, when they most probably wouldn't have been able to before, but does that make it ok? I am wondering how Mr Iglesias would feel that Michael won an Oscar for Best Original Score when it is likely that the motif used as the basis for it was not of Michael's own making.

What do you think? Do they sound similar enough that you think that Michael would have had to have listened to the piece at least once in his life before composing the main Up theme? Perhaps it is just an homage, a nod to a fellow composer, since I'm sure that if composing is your profession that you'd want to have a peek at what others are creating too... or perhaps it is yet another coincidence. Like I said in regards to the Up idea, occasionally, with so many ideas being formed every day, sometimes two ideas will form around the same time period...

So is this an "homage", a coincidence, or do you think they not sound similar at all? :?:
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Re: Did Pixar rip-off "Above and Beyond" student film?

Postby Pricklepants » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:17 pm

Thanks rachel for sharing. I've listened to it a few times, but to me, the similarities are very little. If Michael did anything out of his pure own creativity, I would say this is a nod to Alberto Iglesias piece, rather than an outright copycat. Plus, if Michael did anything close to a rip-off, the Oscars people and everybody with an ounce of score composition knowledge will be all over him the minute "Up" was released/Michael got nominated/Michael got an Oscar.

Again, I think Married Life trumps Iglesias's piece because, as you already covered, it fits the movie perfectly.
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