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Postby Mitch » Tue May 26, 2009 11:02 pm

Thank you very much for the kind comments, everyone! :D

Hannahmation wrote:Don't know how many times I've told you that now, but you really do have great line work skills. I'm kind of envious :D


Pshaw. I'm the one who's jealous. You can animate, and I can't even do that! ;)

bright dot-dasher wrote:I love the sketch of Remy and how you put "J'aime" and "J'deteste" in the profile. Really remarkable.


Ha-ha. I only did that because the same words were inserted into this "Ultimate Ratatouille Guidebook" hardcover that I own. Thanks, though. (snigger)

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All right, well, my hard head finally got cracked, and I'm extremely thankful that it did. A few days ago, I asked my dad why my stuff stinks, and he said that I need to focus on drawing shapes instead of going straight into the intricate details. He had told me this billions of times before, but I was hesitant to depart from my comfortable spot of refinement. However, it was high time I was told to get my act together and sketch shapes. Sooo... I sketched some shapes... and I'll show you what they look like... later. :P

In the meantime, here is a piece of my dad's brilliance:

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My Dad's Drawing:

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He drew that in two seconds and I was all, "The heck?", so I'm making it a point to focus on the shapes and do the detail last so as I can sketch like this. ;)

Note: The image above is my dad's, not mine!!

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Postby Ragdollcorpse » Tue May 26, 2009 11:12 pm

Oh WOW...your dad is really talented...you both are! Great work :D
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Postby bright dot-dasher » Wed May 27, 2009 3:51 am

I agree- wow! In just seconds? Really? :o Gee whiz, awesome much? That's really well drawn, especially for a quick sketch. Be sure to tell your dad I think it looks great!
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Postby Mitch » Wed May 27, 2009 5:37 am

Ragdollcorpse - On behalf of my dad: Thanks! I'm sure he'd appreciate the kind words. :D

bright dot-dasher - Ha-ha! Well, I was exaggerating things a bit. He actually drew it in, perhaps, five minutes, but that's still really quick. I'll be sure to tell him that you like it! ;)

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Russell -

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Shapes! My dad said these look better, so I'm gonna keep going. :D

On another note, I finished my rough, preliminary animation test featuring Russell. There are only forty-two frames, and it looks terrible, but it's only a rough draft. The final thing will look much better, if I have anything to say about it.

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Postby The Star Swordsman » Wed May 27, 2009 6:10 am

Really nice Mitch. I don't know what to say except that you continue to impress me with every new drawing and sketch you post up here.
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Postby lizardgirl » Wed May 27, 2009 10:11 am

Your dad has got Carl spot-on! And since he seems to be the most difficult Up character to draw, that's no mean feat!

I agree with him- your new 'shapely' sketches, although rougher, really do capture the essence of Russell. I especially like the one where he's sort of looking up, with his eyes closed and he's smiling, since you've got the proportions just right and so it makes him look really 3D without you adding too much detail.

And I look forward to seeing your Russell animation, Mitch! :D
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Postby thedriveintheatre » Thu May 28, 2009 5:03 pm

Aw... man. I've missed out on a lot! Well.. *rolls up sleeves* here I go! :D

Storyboard panel: Looks good, though the canyon walls and rocks can do with more 'definition', cos' they looked like clouds to me at first. Was that from one of the featurettes where they show the house floating through the ravine with Russell hanging from it?

Russell-ness: I like the way how you smuged his cheeks to give it that rosy look!

Dug "Thank You" card: Did you actually give that to your doctor? Cute pic of Dug, no complaints here. :)

Ellie: I thought they were pretty expressive. ;) No idea why she's wearing the aviator's cap, but other than that, I like your depiction of emotions.

The Seedy and the Sublime: Ooh... I like the colours for your first pic. That's your avvie right?
I like reading the background info for your second. Really good to have inspiring music playing in the background and just let those juices flow... it shows in the drawing. Very whimsical and cheerful... Russell putting on those goggles. No criticisms.

Refined Carl: Looks okay to me. It's a rough sketch, so I'm more 'lenient' on it, heheh. :)

DeviantArtID: Now this I love! Remy looks so adorable with his face turned to one side and yawning (huh, me, calling a rat cute... :P). I like your use of French words, and how you picked them from one of the guidebooks. The Duracell battery commercials... that's a weird thing to like. Cos' the bunny just keeps on going and never stops? Some kinda visual metaphor for your life? I hate flies and unsightly messes too... Very nice. It would be nice if you added a 'flowery' border design or a masthead... is it meant to look like a menu card? Cos' sorry to say, but right now it looks like a powerpoint slide... other than that, it's very good! :)

Jessie: Pretty spot on, you nailed those expressions. I would probably suggest you add more freckles for the last two... ;)

My Dad's Drawing: Your dad's a natural! I love the 'guidelines', the smudges around the knuckles and under the chin... the stroke of the hair... everything is so detailed and yet seems so effortless... a most triumphant work of art that could only come with years of practice! 2 seconds is superhuman, by the way... I can barely put my pencil to paper before time is up (I know you were exaggerating, just poking fun). Excellent! :D

Russell: Good advice your dad gave. Russell looks more 'flowy' and natural. The first one (Russell yawning) is adorable! Usually if my piece looks too stiff, I just 'relax' and doodle organic shapes to loosen things up. It's something you learn by doing and with comments by others.

Whew! Well, show us your rough animatic when you're ready! 8)
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Postby Mitch » Thu May 28, 2009 6:03 pm

The Star Swordsman - Thanks, dude!

lizardgirl - Thank you very much, lizardgirl!

lizardgirl wrote:I especially like the one where he's sort of looking up, with his eyes closed and he's smiling, since you've got the proportions just right and so it makes him look really 3D without you adding too much detail.


Gee, thanks! I'm glad I'm not the only one who liked how this particular sketch turned out. :D

thedriveintheatre - Your comments and critique are most appreciated. Thank you ever so much! :D

thedriveintheatre wrote:Storyboard panel: Looks good, though the canyon walls and rocks can do with more 'definition', cos' they looked like clouds to me at first. Was that from one of the featurettes where they show the house floating through the ravine with Russell hanging from it?


Ha-ha! "They looked like clouds...". I heartely agree with you, though. The backgrounds, in particular, are rather vague, and Russell blends in too well with the scenery in the last panel. I'll make sure to add more definition to my storyboard panels the next time I lay some out.

Yep, that was from one of those very featurettes -- the "Dug" one, if I'm not much mistaken.

thedriveintheatre wrote:Did you actually give that to your doctor?


I haven't given it to him yet, but I will during my next appointment to see him. I hope he likes it!

thedriveintheatre wrote:Ellie: I thought they were pretty expressive. ;) No idea why she's wearing the aviator's cap, but other than that, I like your depiction of emotions.


Gee, thanks! I still don't think I enhanced her expressions, though -- the bottom two, at least, could do with a little tweaking and more exaggeration, in my opinion.

As for the aviator's cap, she adorned it in the storyboard panels that I referred to while drawing them, and she's wearing it for a reason. I imagine they kept it on her in the final film, but I'm not sure.

thedriveintheatre wrote:Russell putting on those goggles. No criticisms.


Ohhh... ignore that "Seedy and Sublime" one. I already knew that the top one sucked (and, yep, that is from my avatar), but it was wishful thinking on my part to assume that I actually nailed Russell anatomically. It's a wreck, but thanks for the compliment, in any case. ;)


thedriveintheatre wrote:The Duracell battery commercials... that's a weird thing to like. Cos' the bunny just keeps on going and never stops? Some kinda visual metaphor for your life?


Ohhh. Ha-ha! No, you're thinking of the Energizer commercials. This is Duracell:

http://www.duracell.com/

I enjoyed watching their commercials as a kid and have always loved their signature sound effect ("ba do dee", or however you "pronounce" it; heheh). One of my favorite pasttimes is changing the Duracell batteries in both my toys and my sisters' toys, even though I sometimes complain about doing it. Also, on some of the old Duracell batteries (or, at least, on a special type of Duracell battery, if they even sell it anymore...), you could push these little white spots on the ends of the battery and watch this diminutive meter on the side change color/go up and down so as you could see how "charged up" the battery was. I just loved that.

I don't know. I love the Duracell batteries. May the weirdness ensue. I do love the Energizer commercials too, though! Now, those actually are visual metaphors of my life, but that's another story. :P

thedriveintheatre wrote:It would be nice if you added a 'flowery' border design or a masthead... is it meant to look like a menu card? Cos' sorry to say, but right now it looks like a powerpoint slide... other than that, it's very good! :)


Ha-ha! Well, once again, I concur. It does look a bit... formulaic, I suppose. It was intentional, but I agree with you in that it could definitely use a border (hold the flowers). ;)

thedriveintheatre wrote:I would probably suggest you add more freckles for the last two... ;)


Oh gosh. The freckles! I knew I was forgetting something. Thanks for mentioning that!

thedriveintheatre wrote:Usually if my piece looks too stiff, I just 'relax' and doodle organic shapes to loosen things up. It's something you learn by doing and with comments by others.


That's a smart route to take. Good idea! You'd think I would think of these things. Heheh.

Once again, thank you very much for your comments and critique, everyone! I'll be sure to post up my piece of animated junk when I'm finished with it. :D

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By the way, I told my dad that you guys like his Carl drawing and he perked up. ;)

Oh, and here's one last thing that I forgot to post up:

Tents are Hard

My sister and I were goofing off that day. (snigger)

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Postby little_chef_eva09 » Thu May 28, 2009 8:15 pm

I must say that in those last few sketches of Russell alone, I have seen a significant amount of improvement. Working on shape rather than worrying about detail really seemed to bring a whole new look to the way you draw Russell... These have to be my favorite sketches so far. Ever. :D

You should put them up on dA so I can favorite them. :wink:

My favorite sketch has to be the top one of the second picture; the one of his eyes closed. There's something so beautiful and natural about that one... and you have captured his personality perfectly.

Oh, and tell your dad me and my sister like, just about died when we saw his sketch of Carl. He is such an incredible artist... your style really seems to reflect his in a way. I mean, when I looked at it I immediately thought of you (no, not just because he's your dad... haha :wink:). You both have this "way" with sketches. No matter how "dirty" they may look as compared to clean line art, your sketches always turn out so organic and beautiful. <3 Gosh, I freakin' love you guys' style...!!

Keep up all of your great work, and get creative with those "shapes"! :D

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Postby Hannahmation » Thu May 28, 2009 9:07 pm

Your dad is an amazing artist, Mitch. His sketch of Carl is wonderful!

And I'm lovin' your latest Russell sketches! I was always one to start with detail first, but a few drawing classes got me looking at the overall picture. So I know how hard it is to switch that mindset and focus on shapes first! Keep it up! :D
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Postby thedriveintheatre » Fri May 29, 2009 3:47 am

Also, on some of the old Duracell batteries (or, at least, on a special type of Duracell battery, if they even sell it anymore...), you could push these little white spots on the ends of the battery and watch this diminutive meter on the side change color/go up and down so as you could see how "charged up" the battery was. I just loved that.

Oh gosh, I loved that as a kid too! My dad would teach my siblings and I how to press the terminals and we would play with it so often our fingers got sore! :lol: Ah, good times...

'Tents are Hard' is a barrel of laughs! Hearing Russell swear is so unexpected, though I think he would pronounce it the American way of "*ss" instead of the Brit "*rse". I don't know... it's still funny though! :lol:
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Postby Mitch » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:55 pm

red - Gee whiz, thank you very much, red! You're a master at "over-complimentation". (snigger)

little_chef_eva09 wrote:You should put them up on dA so I can favorite them. :wink:


Ha-ha. Perhaps I will. ;)

Hannahmation - Thank you, Hannah!

Hannahmation wrote:I was always one to start with detail first, but a few drawing classes got me looking at the overall picture. So I know how hard it is to switch that mindset and focus on shapes first! Keep it up! :D


It's ridiculously hard; at least, for me it is. I really need to get into a creditable art school so as I can be "broken" as far as over-doing it on detail goes.

thedriveintheatre - Ha-ha. Cool! I'm glad I'm not the only one who liked those batteries.

thedriveintheatre wrote:'Tents are Hard' is a barrel of laughs! Hearing Russell swear is so unexpected, though I think he would pronounce it the American way of "*ss" instead of the Brit "*rse". I don't know... it's still funny though! :lol:


Cha, I agree, although the only reason why I did that is because I would never say the word *ss, whereas I will say the word "arse". It just sounds more... "proper", for some reason. I'm weird. (snigger)

Thanks, dude!

My dad really appreciates all the compliments you guys have been giving him, by the way. I haven't showed him your actual comments yet, but I did tell him that you like his work. He was very touched. ;)

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All right. Now for something a little more sophisticated....

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Campfire Tales - Unfinished:

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Campfire Tales - Finished:

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Yeah!! Detail! Normally, I don't dive this far into a composition, but I was so captivated by this one image of Russell that I absolutely had to draw it.

Here are further comments on this piece, which I copied and pasted from my deviantArt account:

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"Concerning this particular piece: My sister bought the official Up game before the film came out, so we played around with it and discovered that, if you earn enough points, you can "purchase" such delectable trinkets as original concept art and high-resolution images. The sixth resolution image you can "buy" is one of Russell glancing at Mr. Fredricksen during the campfire sequence. I thought that it was the cutest thing, but I loved it even more after I saw the film, for this particular moment happens to be one of my favorites in Up. So, naturally, I drew it. The expression here is one that Russell makes right after he says, [spoil]"Phyllis isn't my mom,"[/spoil] if I'm not much mistaken.

Heh. You know what's funny? I spent most of my time rendering the face... before kind of rushing through the shading on the sash, and yet... it's the sash that now looks the best to me. Also, the flag and the sleeve on which it's sown isn't nearly rendered enough, and the badges look like Oreo cookies...."

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Despite the flaws, I had so much fun rendering this that it's not even funny. I swear, I can't wait to do something like this again, so much so that I'll probably whip up a similar composition in the near future -- tonight, if I can help it.

See, this is why I have to be a technical lighter or something of the sort when I get to Pixar. I love it too much! I absolutely love to render.

By the way, for those of you who are wondering... I posted up the unfinished version of the composition along with the fully-rendered result because I kind of like how it looked as an incomplete piece.

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Postby Hannahmation » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:46 am

You already know how I feel about this piece. :D

I really like seeing the in progress version with it. It's neat to see your process and how you move throughout a piece.
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Postby woody » Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:15 am

Great Russel art Mitch!
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Postby jeremyhopkins » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:20 am

Wow, you've got some great stuff. Your dad is an outstanding artist and it's great that you can learn so much together. You have a real passion and love for what you're creating and that shows through in your artwork. Congratulations and good luck creating!
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