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Postby ffdude1906 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:53 pm

Yeah, I'm with you Rac, that's one reason I'm a bit surprised about Cars getting a sequel. I'm pretty sure Pixar is smart enough not to go too far regarding sequels. I'm guessing that Toy Story is the only one that's getting more than one sequel.
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Postby Phileas » Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:37 am

I think that Pixar has enough sense to know when to produce a sequel, unlike an-unforementioned-animation-company-that-doesn't-know-when-who-will-go-unmentioned-because-I-have-dignity. Judging from TS2, TS3 will be good. Cars 2 was destined for a sequel due to it's ending, and The Incredibles, well, go figure (it's just awesome, that's why :P). I'm all for Pixar doing sequels, because I know they won't make sequels just for the money. :)

(Summing up: I agree with you ffdude & Rac :P)
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Postby ffdude1906 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:39 am

I don't think anything Pixar does is purely for the money, it's just a bonus. :D That's one thing I love about them. They're not cash cow, they don't milk a franchise for everything it's got, and they work their butts off for what they do. They're pure artists.
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Postby AJD08 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:59 pm

ffdude1906 wrote:I don't think anything Pixar does is purely for the money, it's just a bonus. :D That's one thing I love about them. They're not cash cow, they don't milk a franchise for everything it's got, and they work their butts off for what they do. They're pure artists.


I dunno, Cars had a pretty good conclusion, and even a little bonus epilogue during the credits. I remember commenting that they did that to guarantee that Disney wouldn't pressure them to create a sequel. But Cars became very popular, and is very marketable, so naturally they'd create Cars Toons and eventually a sequel. That's not to say that they'd just cop-out and say "here ya go. it's another Cars." I still have faith that Pixar takes time and care to ensure that, though the sequel shares the same characters as its predecessor, it is an enirely different movie. This can be seen with Toy Story 1 and 2.
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Postby RaeKasey » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:33 pm

NEWS, PEOPLE.

Disney bought the domain monsters2.com. I think we are almost definitely getting a Monsters, Inc. sequel at some point. I have no idea where they'll take it, though, since Monsters, Inc became a laugh factory...

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Postby lennonluvr9 » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:41 pm

Interesting. I'm not really sure where they'd take that either, as I dont really see a need to make a sequel. But whatever, I'm sure they'd come up with something.
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Postby movieman369 » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:38 pm

The Tiger King Movie?! I wonder if that's the name for the new Winnie The Pooh movie...

Also, I don't really mind the fact that they're making a second Monsters, Inc. ... too much (depends on how the story works out). A second "Incredibles" would be fantastic to watch! I did play that "sequel game" (Rise of the Underminer) a while ago, too, it wasn't that good... :roll:
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Postby SgtYayap » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:05 pm

To be honest, I'm not so sure about these sequels. Sure, it might be nice to reexplore universes already created, but, unless they have a really good story idea, they seem to just be running out of ideas.

Take Toy Story 3, for example. I felt that the second movie was wrapped up completely. And for Wall-E, I don't see the point on continuing that; it was just one idea that, though important, does not need to be repeated in the same universe.

One development I found that may prove that Pixar is at a low point in its "life" is none other than the Boom! Comics endorsed by them as extended canon! A certain other member of this board has ordered the M.I. issues, and, upon getting the first issue, has given me a summary. Not only is Randall completely out of character* (why would ANYONE in real life help out a business psycho (Waternoose) who once had power over them but no longer does?), but there are several other mistakes in the comics, such as Boo acting just like she was still two, when at least a year has passed since the events of the first movie. Not to mention that the idea of furry=good and scaly=evil (though this is far from the best description in the first movie) is quite repetitive. I've also heard about the Incredibles comics, and they ALSO sound repetitive, turning into just another superhero story, when the movie, from what I recall, was really more about Mr. Incredible fighting himself over whether to show off his powers or not.

The fact that these comics will be extended canon is why I sometimes think that Pixar is turning into another Disney. Sure, Pixar did not actually write them, but they may have given the story ideas, and even if they didn't, they still endorsed them.

*There is only one detail I feel was incomplete in Pixar's works, that detail being Randall in Monsters, Inc. Think about it: how is it funny to be a victim of a crime (Mike and Sulley banishing him instead of turning him to the authorities) which results in an attempted death? The only thing that can possibly be funny about that was, in this case, the people in the trailer thought that he was a gator.On top of that, we never see what kind of person he was before he had to work on the Scream Extractor. Which leads to what is the only idea for an M.I. sequel I can think of that would not be repetitive: Randall redeeming himself. Not only would that show more depth to the characters, it's also a theme that Pixar has never really covered at all: redemption.
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Postby pitbulllady » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:48 pm

SgtYayap wrote:To be honest, I'm not so sure about these sequels. Sure, it might be nice to reexplore universes already created, but, unless they have a really good story idea, they seem to just be running out of ideas.

Take Toy Story 3, for example. I felt that the second movie was wrapped up completely. And for Wall-E, I don't see the point on continuing that; it was just one idea that, though important, does not need to be repeated in the same universe.

One development I found that may prove that Pixar is at a low point in its "life" is none other than the Boom! Comics endorsed by them as extended canon! A certain other member of this board has ordered the M.I. issues, and, upon getting the first issue, has given me a summary. Not only is Randall completely out of character* (why would ANYONE in real life help out a business psycho (Waternoose) who once had power over them but no longer does?), but there are several other mistakes in the comics, such as Boo acting just like she was still two, when at least a year has passed since the events of the first movie. Not to mention that the idea of furry=good and scaly=evil (though this is far from the best description in the first movie) is quite repetitive. I've also heard about the Incredibles comics, and they ALSO sound repetitive, turning into just another superhero story, when the movie, from what I recall, was really more about Mr. Incredible fighting himself over whether to show off his powers or not.

The fact that these comics will be extended canon is why I sometimes think that Pixar is turning into another Disney. Sure, Pixar did not actually write them, but they may have given the story ideas, and even if they didn't, they still endorsed them.

*There is only one detail I feel was incomplete in Pixar's works, that detail being Randall in Monsters, Inc. Think about it: how is it funny to be a victim of a crime (Mike and Sulley banishing him instead of turning him to the authorities) which results in an attempted death? The only thing that can possibly be funny about that was, in this case, the people in the trailer thought that he was a gator.On top of that, we never see what kind of person he was before he had to work on the Scream Extractor. Which leads to what is the only idea for an M.I. sequel I can think of that would not be repetitive: Randall redeeming himself. Not only would that show more depth to the characters, it's also a theme that Pixar has never really covered at all: redemption.


Pixar has never dealt with self-redemption OR the theme of forgiveness, actually. Monsters, Inc. had a lot to do with the theme of revenge, and getting even, and using violence to "overcome" fear(hey, it works for the KKK!), and I can't find much good to say about either of those. I'd hate to see them continue with that, and people actually have no problem with it simply because they're the Almighty Pixar.

Oh, you forgot to mention that in the comics, Randall is drawn with FOUR fingers/toes on each hand/foot, while in the movie, he's only got THREE. Guess some of the "artises" didn't bother to actually watch the movie, but then, they're in good company. The writers apparently didn't, either. What is so bad is that Pixar endorsed this, so if this in any indication of things to come from them, this does not bode well at all.

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Postby SgtYayap » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:08 am

pitbulllady wrote:Oh, you forgot to mention that in the comics, Randall is drawn with FOUR fingers/toes on each hand/foot, while in the movie, he's only got THREE. Guess some of the "artises" didn't bother to actually watch the movie, but then, they're in good company. The writers apparently didn't, either. What is so bad is that Pixar endorsed this, so if this in any indication of things to come from them, this does not bode well at all.

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I actually didn't know that Randall had four fingers/toes in the comics. Still, it further proves my point.

Pixar endorsing this is exactly what I'm complaining about; thank you for noting that, pitbulllady. Had it been just a fanfiction, many of which are written better than these comics, I most likely would not have been as concerned. The only hope is based on the fact that it is EXTENDED canon instead of just canon; thus, it is not necessarily the storyline that will be followed in the sequel.
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Postby Princess_Darkness » Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:56 am

Sequels are similar to a person's reputation in a way, they can either make or break a movie. I do look forward to TS 3 simply due to my curiousity of what fate could befall Woody, Buzz, and the gang. As far as a Cars 2, I do wonder exactly how Pixar will pull this off considering that the lesson that Lightening was suppossed to learn he did learn in the original. As far as any other sequels, I have heard no confirmation nor announcement from Pixar nor Disney but I have read the constant online rumors which as we all know are just rumors, rumors are simply gossip after all. Until either company makes an actual announcement then we can assume that TS3 and Cars 2 are the only sequels...for now.
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Postby SgtYayap » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:22 pm

All I will say for the sake of keeping a certain M.I. character out of this is this: M.I. 2 isn't based entirely in rumor. By this I mean that Disney has purchased a website domain for the movie.
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Postby Princess_Darkness » Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:13 pm

SgtYayap wrote:All I will say for the sake of keeping a certain M.I. character out of this is this: M.I. 2 isn't based entirely in rumor. By this I mean that Disney has purchased a website domain for the movie.


I have heard about that myself actually...makes me wonder if that is truly a sequel or just another move that was simliarly done with TNBC aka Oogie's revenge...after all, a sequel doesn't necessarily mean movie format.
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Postby Woodyfan23 » Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:35 am

I'd so hope for an Incredibles 2 film. But yah Brad Bird said he'd like to find a good plot for the film before making it. I do hope he's thinking about it though, it was one of my favorite Pixar films.The others, don't know. I can't see Finding Nemo having one, that ended perfectly. Don't know what else it could be about. The title is Finding Nemo, being about Nemo being found. I guess they could loose Nemo again.
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Postby E.S. » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:21 pm

Monster's Inc. 2 is a go: http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclus ... -a-go-9300

So we are now getting 3 sequels out of the next four from Pixar. :(

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