Central Brave Discussion

Reaper: Thats a point, but I’m sure John Powell is versatile enough to do something different. Listen to the scores for Bolt and Hancock-completely different. :slight_smile:

That’s because they are such different movies. TDIT keeps wanting him to do the score because he’s done good fantasy scores before, but I would be worried about him repeating himself. I’d prefer for a Pixar movie to not sound the same as a Dreamworks movie, no matter how good that dreamworks movie is. Its probably stupid, but that’s how I feel.

I’m excited to hear more from him. Whether it’s Pixar, Blue Sky, Dreamworks, or something else! He’s just a fantastic composer.

I don’t get why people keep confusing the Brave setting with the HTTYD setting.

Brave is set in Scotland. HTTYD is set in a mythical Scandinavian region.

Those cultures aren’t alike at all, with very different music. So, even if they choose John Powell, he won’t repeat himself.

Its probably because I don’t really care about HTTYD, and others have been saying it. I’m still betting on that Scottish guy that was just rumored though, last time I doubted something like this was when Monsters inc 2 really was a prequel, and that turned out to be true.

Pretty tall order, I can’t remember whether you mentioned you watched HTTYD and/or Rio? I will assume you did, in which case, I’ll have to listen to both tracks again. They didn’t stick out to me when I was watching TS3 because I was too busy pondering the fate of the characters. Maybe because it was so subtle that it was so effective, I guess. Then again, it could be just that it was unremarkable. But yes, I will have a listen again and see if it stands to a repeat hearing, I haven’t seen TS3 again since my first viewing last year (I watched a bit on my last holiday trip, but only the ‘Welcome to Sunnyside’ scene).

This, I can agree with.

I don’t think Powell will be lazy enough to repeat the themes he used from HTTYD. He has proven to be as versatile as Giachinno himself, just compare the ‘Bourne Ultimatum’ to ‘Ice Age’, and hear the differences. Besides, Giachinno is scoring Cars 2, which is essentially a spy movie like he did for Mission Impossible 3. Does this mean I think he will repeat the themes he used for M:I:3 for Cars 2. No, because that wouldn’t make any logical sense.

Some, like James Horner, ‘recycle’ tracks he has used before (I hear people saying some tracks in Avatar sound similar to his earlier pieces). But I think Powell is just as talented as Giachinno, and the reasoning that just because he has already scored a Scandinavian-set film means he can’t score another one is just as flawed as saying Giachinno can’t score an animated spy thriller because he has already done a similar live-action one.

I’ll admit that he tends to score animated films which just happen to be action or fantasy-based, but that is not the reason why I want him to score Brave. It is because I think he is just as talented and versatile as the ones Pixarians regularly use, and I would love to see them collaborate with another composer. And again, just because John has done a similar movie, doesn’t mean that he will repeat himself.

Does a Pixar movie have to be scored by Mike, Randy, or Thomas for it to ‘sound’ like a Pixar movie? How is a Pixar movie supposed to sound like? How does a Dreamworks movie sound like? Generic? Beautiful? Wonderful? Boring? How about we take Kung Fu Panda’s score, and compare it to Wall-E? It’ll be like comparing mandarin oranges with apples.

If a composer happens to be talented but only works with one particular studio, does this mean that he can’t work with another? How about if he’s not talented and works with only one particular studio?

If a Dreamworks movie is really, really good (from an ‘everything’ perspective), does this mean that a Pixar movie doesn’t have the right to have an equally great score? I wouldn’t call your opinion stupid (cos’ that would make me stupid), but it certainly bears deeper contemplation. :slight_smile:

My point exactly! Composers belong to no studio, just like no studio deserves only one composer.

I’m not sure what you mean by not caring about HTTYD. If you haven’t watched it, you should give it a chance. If you have, then you are entitled to that opinion.

Doyle has done some great work on Thor, and I’m equally rooting for him to do Brave.

You can assume it, I’ve seen both films

I can realize by your statement that you have clearly not appreciated the TS3 score, because, as you mentioned, you just have seen the film once, if you have the time I entirely recommend you to listen to So Long, it is easily one of Randy’s best compositions

More like once-and-a-half, as I mentioned I saw part of it on my last vacation. But yes, I only watched it once in its entirety, and that was in cinemas.

Of course, I am entitled to my opinion after having given TS3 one chance already. For me, the creators of a film should impress someone on the first time round, and the assumption should be that the viewer won’t watch the film again to give it ‘second chances’.

I also have watched HTTYD and Rio only twice and once respectively in their entirety, all occasions in cinemas- I rarely buy DVDs or rewatch films; I indulge my cravings by drawing fanart or making fan sigs.

But I will certainly take up your suggestion and give it another go.

I’m looking forward to Brave. I’ve been a big fan of director Steve Purcell’s Sam and Max comic for a long time. He even has his own Wiki! samandmax.net/wiki/Steve_Purcell

Me too! I can’t wait to see how he’ll tackle something more serious.

I saw Thor earlier today, and I have to say that Paddy Doyle is brilliant on that score alone. Especially the piece of music [spoil]when Thor breaks the bridge and Jane is left standing[/spoil]. Very excited :slight_smile:

asdfghjkl; i still need this movie in my life. like, now. i’ve been meaning to listen to doyle’s score for thor but i haven’t gotten around to it. haven’t gotten around to seeing the movie, either. D: i’ll do it now.

so, apparently merida is going to be the first ~official~ cgi disney princess now? idk. i just read that rapunzel isn’t being counted as an official princess now (WHYYY /sad faec) so merida is going to be the first, uh, ~official~ one, lol.

i don’t know why i’m saying this but someone needs to come here and fangirl about the wonderful possibilities of this movie with me. o;

What do you mean first official one? There’s already Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Mulan, and Tiana.

And yes, Rapunzel isn’t ‘official’ as in she’s still not featured on the Disney Princess Website. But Disney is sure merchandising her like she’s official.

oops! mistype. i meant the first official cgi princess. i fail, lol.

:laughing: I knew what you meant, b&p :slight_smile:

Still very excited. I want to say not long to go, but I can’t really :neutral_face:

No problemo!

I’ll find it very strange of Merida is a Disney Princess, but Rapunzel isn’t. Although both studios are owned by Walt Disney Company, they are none the less seperate entities, and skipping over Rapunzel to Merida would be different.

^ ikr? that’s what i was wondering. i mean, i’m fine with merida becoming a disney princess and all, but i don’t get why she gets included and rapunzel, who is, technically, an actual ~disney~ princess, doesn’t. i’d get if neither were included because they didn’t want cgi princesses in the lineup (seeing cgi!rapunzel next to all the hand-drawn princesses was odd, i have to say) or if both of them were, but only one?

maybe it has to do with the fact that rapunzel is, as far as i’m aware (somebody correct me if i’m wrong), the only one who goes by the name of the princess in the original fairytale?

lol, this is getting way too ranty. /endrant

^ I don’t think it’s fair at all that Rapunzel isn’t a princess. She’s more of a princess than Tiana to me, since she just lives in a more fairy tale-esque time than New Orleans is. But whatever, she’s still a princess to me.

I can’t wait to see how Pixar can turn a fairytale with a princess upside down! It’s going to be beautiful. Just beautiful. I would like it to come out now, please, but I’ll have to wait. This is definately the one I’m most excited about! The two best things in the world together: fairytales, and Pixar. This is gonna be epically amazing :smiley:

Rapunzel should TOTALLY count, with or without this Merida. :unamused:

But anyway, I’m not really…interested in this movie. Not sure why.

Yes, in my heart Raupnzel is a Princess.