Not taking sides, so I’ll just say this.
A trailer is meant for comments. Otherwise, they would just put out the movie in a take it or leave it type of way. However, there is such a thing as overly critiquing a trailer.
That’s all I’m going to say.
That’s French.
If this was directed at me, I apologise if I have offended any Cars fans here.
Personally, when I see something, from movies, to foreign government policies, to my dinner plate of spaghetti, I like to pick it apart and analyze it. Figure out how it works, what they did good, and how they can improve. We all do this to an extent every day- when we are ranting about how people are prejudiced against animated films, or how we rave about how awesome that singer was, or the comments we leave on someone’s fanworks, etc.
Back in the old days of the Wall-E, Up and Toy Story 3 trailers, we would pick apart the trailers, analyze each scene, make predictions about who will be the bad guy, the good guy, etc. And that’s what we have been doing with the Cars 2 trailer to an extent.
I understand how my constructive criticisms might be hurting a few fans here, who would rather be excited about the movie and not being taken down a notch by my pointing out of a flaw or something which I personally don’t like (and I’m not being sarcastic, I know how it feels when I want to hype up a movie and someone says negative stuff about it).
So if anyone would like me to say only good comments from now on, please let me know and I can accommodate. It is my belief that we should be free to express our opinions, positive or negative, about a trailer or a future movie, but if this is gonna hurt the feelings of those who would rather not hear it, I can totally understand.
You don’t have to worry about hurting others’ feelings, TDIT. We don’t work for Pixar, nor do we do contribute anything to come up with any of these. So we shouldn’t get hurt when somebody else don’t like what we do. We’re fans, but we’re not ‘blind’ fans. You’re totally free to express any opinion you would like, good or bad. From my impressions, you’re not the kind of posters who dish out ‘bad’ opinions in a rude, brainless way to get reactions (i.e. trolling). In fact, you’re really conscious about the tone of your post, which is great. But there are several things you may want to watch out for, if you can/would like:
This is why Cars fans are my least favorite; they get way to sensitive when people insult the movie. This isn’t meant to be something related to recent things on this forum, just an observation I’ve noticed.
I’m glad that you’re able to remain calm and provide a rational argument, Pricklepants. I really appreciate that.
Sometimes it is in response to the bullying of members with different opinions (I can name a few if you want to) and I need to step in and defend the victim. Rarely is the bully someone who is a fan of another studio, because these people tend to be more level-headed and are in the minority. More often than not, the aggressor is someone who has a deep attachment to a Pixar character or a movie, and takes it personally when someone expresses disagreement or an alternative view. And most likely, there will be plenty of supporters who will support the bully against the contrarian (this is a Pixar fan site, after all).
And believe me, I don’t go searching for faults or mistakes. While I have a very strong conviction in my beliefs, I am always open to other possibilities. I try to give the benefit of the doubt, whether it is towards members here or any film or studio. I have expressed positive comments for universally condemned movies such as ‘Roadside Romeo’, and given negative comments for critical darlings such as ‘The Social Network’. This doesn’t mean I’m trying to be an Arnold White or a contrarian on purpose, but because I believe that nothing is absolutely perfect or absolutely despicable, so I try to point out weaknesses or strengths if I think it’s worth mentioning.
I know exactly how it feels to plug a film I like, and people are sharing the same opinion as I am, and then someone writes a post saying that the movie disappointed them, or that it didn’t make their expectations. Sometimes the ‘offender’ will give solid reasons, and I would give a read and respond in turn. Other times, he/she will just give a blank statement (“This movie sucks”) and I will simply ignore the person.
As I’ve said, it’s a bit too late for Cars 2 now, but hopefully whoever’s reading this from Pixar can take these on board for future productions.
And criticism doesn’t have to be heard or accepted for it to be constructive. By definition, a constructive criticism is done with compassion and with good intentions. Besides, I write my comments not out of any misplaced sense of altruism or for the ‘greater good’, but simply because I have just as much right to do so as anyone else who makes a comment here. 
And yes, I appreciate your constructive criticism with the greatest of sincerity, and while I won’t stop giving feedback when it’s due, I certainly will stop being less curmudgeonly and be more lenient with my critiques.
Anyway, sorry I rambled on a bit too long, but just wanna state my position on this, and that I don’t mean disrespect to any Cars fans.
No, you took that wrong. I said I wasn’t taking sides. It wasn’t aimed towards one of you, it was aimed towards both of you. I agreed to the fact that a trailer is there for comments; there’s no doubting that. There isn’t much more to say to that.
However, some people tend to overly critique the trailers. Especially if he or she states things that no one is able to change but Pixar. I know we’re the largest Pixar forum (Well honestly, I didn’t know until you told me, so now I know.) but that doesn’t mean Pixar sits here taking our criticisms and changing the movie accordingly. I know that there are people who work on the movies who are members here (For example the person who works on the soundtrack posted something here.) but that doesn’t mean they take everything we say and make the movie personalized for all of our needs. All that means is that they know we exist and they like us a lot. So much so, that every once in a while they’ll give us a post or two about the progress of the movie no one else could see.
Besides, none of us here (I think.) are able to see the pre-screenings of a movie. So none of us here are able to make any constructive criticisms. Here’s the thing about movie trailers, they only show what the makers of the movie want you to see. They’re obviously not going to show us the most amazing parts of the movie and they’re going to repeat certain scenes, regardless if anyone likes them or not.
Which is why I barely come here anymore. I know I tend to get very sensitive. I think I’ve been a lot calmer more recently than I have been in the past by ignoring comments made that aren’t the most positive. It feels pretty bad when one loves a movie most people dislike, even if he or she believes that he or she should love it for himself or herself.
I believe that I should love it because I love it, not because everyone else loves it too. However, that doesn’t mean feelings don’t exist, which is why I tend to feel bad sometimes. I don’t necessarily feel hurt, because it is just a movie. It’s not like it ruins my day, it ruins a minute or two.
Not for anything, I think I’ve also given a few negative criticisms here myself. This is coming from pretty much the biggest Cars fan here. I’m just a lot more positive than negative about the movie. But I’m more than sure that if you go back in the posts with a magnifying glass, you’ll be able to see them.
All I’m going to say is this,that is a very broad term. I’m going to be the better person and respond calmly,but you yourself are part of the reason Cars fans respond the way they do,so instead of complaining about “Cars fans” you should ask yourself “What am I doing to provoke those reactions?” You can’t expect Cars fans to be all happy-dory all the time,especially when it’s a movie a lot of people hate…
Here’s the thing I’m not gonna lie I’ve been guilty of going overboard myself with defending my love for things Cars related,but it is quite irrtating to have people repeat the same negative things about Cars,and overly crtiqueing things 
. A memeber once told me on here,“maybe you should try to see the other side of things…” I’m still working on that but you know what,that makes sense. I’m not saying you can’t point out the negatives of the film. But some people just go on and on and on 
. Try being positive for once,and if your’e going to point out a negative,be balenced with it and be respectful… But I agree with Pricklepants and Jess though. Comeon,guys!! were supposed to be excited!! It’s a new Pixar movie!! 
Just bringing some positivty…
To be the better person, you don’t say you’re about to be a better person. That just makes it look like you’re snapping at him or her because of what he or she stated about Cars fans.
I understand how you felt when you read what he or she said, because I felt the same way. However, reacting the way you reacted at the beginning of this post is already showing it bothered you, which is proving his point.
Not trying to be against you here, I’m just pointing it out. I’m on your side with this, obviously.
Really, his or her statement was only a quick sentence. We shouldn’t make a few pages over his or her statement. He or she said what he or she said, you said what you said, and I said what I said. That’s all we need to say. This doesn’t need to turn into a match of pointing fingers.
Yeah,what I was trying to get him to realise is the fact that he/she needs to look at both sides of the issue,and not just point the finger at us,you know? But yeah I see what your’e saying though…
Yes, he or she probably didn’t think about the other side when he or she wrote that. However, it doesn’t mean you prove his or her point (though I know you didn’t intend to) and you don’t retort. When someone write something you think is offensive, you should defend yourself for yourself; not defend yourself to hurt the other person back. If you want to look like the better person, that’s how you do it.
Other than that, this isn’t a big deal.
Yeah…I was defending Cars fans too,because I know that’s not true,plus for some other reasons I can’t say on here…
There’s no need. They’re people too, so they can defend their own opinions. It’s not like his or her statement was bizarre, all of us here know it’s true. It doesn’t mean it was right for him or her to say it either.
I’m refusing to take sides.
Oh ok…
Does anyone think Finn’s comment on Mater was a little mean?
[spoiler]It wasn’t on purpose, he doesn’t know Mater isn’t a spy. He believes that Mater is only covering himself. So when he says that, it hurts Mater, without Finn knowing he hurt him.
I had tears rolling from my eyes…the look on Mater’s face…
I knew he was bound to have something like this happen. Whether it was in the Cars Toons or Cars 2. Mater was going to realize how the world really saw him.[/spoiler]
Yeah,I felt really bad for Mater too. I wanted to sing that song “Firework” to him…[spoil]but I know Finn’s wrong also,cause not everybody sees him that way…[/spoil]
I mean apperently [spoil]Holley[/spoil] dosen’t…
To be fair, you see him that way, and so does most of Pixar Planet. It easy to make fun of someone when you don’t see how it affects the person…or car.
Put this conversation in spoilers. Some people don’t want to know about this yet.
I just laugh at what he does,but I wouldn’t call him a fool or something,though…
I understand both TDIT and Pricklepants points. I won’t elaborate on this cause you both talked about things I’ve said before.
Both of you are some of the most respectful and rational members here, so I’m glad you took this discussion so well, unlike some other little fights that appear here every then and now.
Well, as I mentioned, they could take our comments on board for future productions. I know I sound a bit deluded (and maybe I probably am, because it’s a very slim chance that Pixar will change the plot simply because of a few dissenters, now that you mention it).
But hey, even if they don’t listen to us, or simply pop in every now and then to post progress notes (like miafka and Disney_Movies), this doesn’t mean that we don’t have the right to suggest improvements. I don’t write my comments only because I want Pixar to follow every request I make. That would defeat the entire purpose of the Brain Trust, and I’m not entirely sure if I want my story ideas or improvements to be accepted all the time.
I voice my opinion simply because I believe in what I am saying, and that I think it deserves saying. I don’t do this to annoy Cars fans (I try as much as possible not to use swear words or get personal with everyone, and I’m open to ideas). I don’t do this because I want Pixar to listen to me (although it would be great if they did for me and everyone else here). I do this because it is the very foundation of freedom. Democracy thrives on debate, what would be the point if everyone agreed with each other and echoed the same opinions?
If we all wanted to have the same opinion, we might as well install a microchip in our brains so we can all be on the same page. If we are afraid to take apart a trailer and analyze it, we might as well not watch it at all (which some fans do, when they go on ‘media blackouts’ to go in ‘clean’, perfectly understandable). If we would rather not hear any negative (but polite) comments about something, we shouldn’t be hearing positive ones either. The key balance is moderation (which is what Moderators do!) and… balance.
Besides, isn’t it infinitely more satisfying to read the doubters’ comments and watch their jaws drop on opening day? Then again, they could be proven right! As I’ve said in the last few posts, the future is never certain. Only the now.
And I’m not 100% certain that we are the largest Pixar fan site on the Internet. But based on what I know, I can say that yes, we indeed are, from my perception. Maybe there’s a Russian or Chinese fan site which has like a billion members or something. 
Ah, but isn’t saying good things constructive criticism too? Criticism often gets confused with being ‘negative’, but it really is closer to “analysis” in meaning. So making comments about Holley, Mater, Sally, Lightning, who is this spy, is he a bad guy, etc. are all ‘constructive crticisms’.
Not trying to be cheeky here. What we need to understand is that although none of us (except maybe miafka or Disney_Movies) has seen the final product, that doesn’t mean that we can’t talk about it.
Thanks SoA. I would also like to praise xCarsLuverx and x3haijessiex3, who have managed to reach a consensus for once, although it is in opposition to another member’s remarks.
The enemy of my enemy…
TDIT:Um…thanks?