Central Monsters University Discussion

That’s a possibility, but I hope not.

If it ends up being that way, it isn’t a very creative idea.

I personally don’t know what they’ll do with Randall. Hopefully something creative to develop a backstory he once had of being Mike and Sulley’s friend.

I second that.

At this stage it’s hard to say in regards for Randall.
But…apparently since this may be “Monsters Inc. (in University)” instead of an actual prequel, one might expect him to be age-altered to fit the plot, probably attending the university with them at the same time, same age and everything like that.

Predictably, as well as uninspiring-ly, he could be shown as a bully. As I’ve said before this is unrealistic for him…but given the above alterations, it’s not beyond them.

As for the friends idea…I don’t find it totally uncreative.
Makes them more…on a personal level between Sullivan and Randall in regards to their interactions.
However…taps lip If they WERE friends before, Sullivan would have given Randall the benefit of the doubt in some circumstances, as well as not “run” from him during his first encounter with Boo. (After all, to the uninformed, Randall was just working late and Sullivan stumbled upon the door. The logical thing would have been to tell Randall he made a mistake going into the door, they’d put the kid back and never speak on the matter. So why didn’t that happen? Well supposedly if they WERE friends before, they parted ways a long time ago and sorta drifted.
Though since Randall trained Sullivan and Wazowski, THAT would have contributed, but with this new alteration shrugs)

So yeah, to point, it’s unknown right now. Things would be changed to fit the bill as it were. Just to fit the bill…

Well, that won’t contradict the plot of the first movie (the only real cannon source). They never stated that his age was different from Mike and Sullivan in the first one.

taps lip It’s a typical belief that Randall’s age was 25 at the time of the film.
Not exactly sure where this came from, it’s been so long that I don’t recall…
But given his personality, actions, and the compositions brought forth, it seems like the right age.

A little less research tells that Sullivan and Wazowski are much older, but I’m unsure…
Sullivan’s…parental-esqueness towards Boo shows…well a more fatherly, a more older facade.
Maybe hanging out with Waternoose might be something…unsure if that suggested and older or younger age proposition for Sullivan…afterall is it a “this young man is going to the top” or “ah we’re just too old not to be buds eh?” sort of thing.

Wazowski…since he ACTS young…it’s very hard to tell hehehe.
I mean originally the two (Sullivan and Wazowski) met in…oui…kindergarten I think I informed, can’t remember off the fly. On their own, both having same appartment, having a car, generally a high school-to-college age of typicalness.

Of course when Waternoose himself is considered “tender” at an age over 100, who knows if age even really matters to each of them.
Heck, with some dragons living well over 1000 years, who knows, Randall might look young but be even older than Waternoose :laughing:

Exactly. Typical belief ain’t canon.

So the continuity of the first film will remain untouched.

However, it’s undetermined if it IS just belief. The fact may very well be floating around out there.

Not necessarily. A prequel can contradict many things. Sure it can end coming into Monsters Inc. (not directly mind you), but doesn’t mean that things from the original would be altered in the prequel.

What it boils right down to, is that currently it’s unknown what will happen until more information is presented.
Been awhile since posting, thanks for the merge.

Yeah, I kind of see Randall as being very competitive even from the beginning.

Exactly. That’s why I don’t think he being their enemy is “out of character” or an unimaginative thing.

I think it’s the most natural thing to do, but that’s just a belief.

I agree.

I don’t know if I want Randall as a main villian again.

Well, he doesn’t have to be the main villain, there can be more, as in the first one.

But even so, films series like Star Wars reused the villain and it wasn’t bothering.

Ellie
Oh my yes Randall can be very competitive…and I would be surprised if we don’t see it. Maybe that’s something that will be emphasized…Sullivan’s a great scarer, and so is Randall, and I would think they both come from different origins that may conflict. But yeah, I do see some competition that might arise…perhaps something important to one of them or the other.
Though while he is competitive, he’s not a cheater, just to note.

Spirit
Competitiveness is not an enemy-esque-sole trait. Sure, he can be antagonistic, but making him the same one again…sighes Well…that would be a “first” for Pixar…

They’re adding more characters apparently, so I want to see somebody new take the main role. I mean if Randall’s the main one from the get-go (at least) I’m going to be disappointed. I mean most…people who had seen the first film (lot of people) would…sigh…point him out as the villain. How surprising would THAT be? I mean granted when Waternoose showed himself to be the master of things, it was a interesting twist.
I want to either see a twist, or somebody else take things. I mean what? Are they going to make Randall the main one in the prequel and, when they make a sequel, making him it AGAIN? I mean give the guy some credit, he wasn’t a complete jerk all his life.

The Star Wars films were essentially a trilogy…well…two trilogies (a third Lucas? winks) so it was natural. I mean Darth Vader wasn’t…well he wasn’t physically defeated, he changed at the very end, but he was around for a way longo time. Boba and Jango Fett were essentially different people (ok…one was a clone but…yeah).
Not sure what you mean by reuse in the sense of Star Wars…

It was just an example. I mean that a character can be the main antagonist for a whole movie series. Vader was one of the main antagonists in every film of the original trilogy. Voldemort (while not physically appearing in all books), was the main antagonist in all entries. Magneto is the baddie in all X-Men films, and so on…

What I mean is that, if Randall is a villain again (and I’m sure he’ll be in some way or another), it doesn’t show a lack of imagination, it’s just a normal thing.

I didn’t think Randall was the villian in the first one. I personally thought it was Waternoose since he was behind the entire thing to get Boo.

True true…

I suppose your right there…
Still, I wouldn’t wish for Pixar to do this. folds arms For the “villains” they DO show pasts of…it’s been…in gratitude.
Buddy Pine? He was a boy who looked up to the hero, not a villain or even a bad guy at all. Then he was crushed in spirit, which in turn lead to what he became, Syndrome.
Uhh…Hugsalot? No uhh…oh jeez…the uhh…the bear from Toy Story 3. He loved that girl, and when he was left behind, he struggled forth to return to her, only to see himself replaced. All that turned him into what he was.

This is a past entry…it’s not just a glimpse it’s a whole thing.
A person is NOT terrible from the beginning. Randall doesn’t have the Scream Extractor barring over him…he might have other things to worry about but…I want to see…what happened for Buddy, what happened for…the bear guy. I don’t want to see a rehash-use…I want to see…if they decide that that was the point…a REASON.

Outside referrences. Vader? Oh we know all about him through the first three films.
Voldemort? Uhh his was a little harder uhh…concieved by a…magical way…and growing up in a pure…oh wait no he wasn’t was he…well anyways, we know at least about his past to an extent.

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Waternoose WAS the villain behind it all Ballboi.
coughs To extend the olive branch, Randall was the secondary antagonist. He was seen more in antagonistic-light, but it WAS Waternoose that pulled the strings.
That’s something else. Randall had Waternoose over him, his boss and a person who would kill even an admired individual to get what he wanted. They certainly didn’t have much admiration for each other, as we see, so think of what would have happened to Randall if he had failed.
That’s not going to be in the sequel. Waternoose isn’t going to be hovering over Randall like that, so he wouldn’t be acting the same as we’ve seen him before. He’d be more…relaxed. If he’s ATTENDING…sure, he’d have the normal pressures and worry of any college student…but he wouldn’t fear for his life.

Waternoose was the main villain in the first.

I agree.

Yes, the mastermind is the main antagonist (which is why the real Star Wars villain is Palpatine), but Randall (like Vader) is the muscle work, which is also important.