Hard to predict, and plus the score shouldn’t be taken as an indicator of the film’s overall quality. Just the percentage of critics who were positive or negative about it. Remember, a film could have a 95% on RT, and all of them are 7.5/10 reviews. That doesn’t make it a masterpiece.
MU, if critics don’t have any biases after Cars 2 and Brave, should end up with over something like an 85%. That’s if it’s a great film. If it ends up being flawed, much like Brave, but still good, expect something in the 70s or perhaps the 60s since this is a prequel to a beloved Pixar classic. When it comes to Pixar, a bit subpar is not the answer. Brave got a 78%, when in reality, it should of ended up around 80-85ish. But if Pixar ended up making a couple trip ups with the story, the film will end up being in the 70s.
It’s unpredictable right now since most of us have no idea how good the film will be. The first 40 minutes got praise, but so did the first half-hour of Brave. But, Brave is only one film. MU’s remaining run time could be excellent. To wrap up…
If the film is great, and up to “Pixar’s Standards”: 90-99%
If the film turns out to be good and not great: 70-79%
If it turns out to be terribly problematic: Somewhere below the 50s. Critics will be quick to give this one a rotten rating.
@NickA113- based on Ballboi’s explanation MU will definitely end up in the 85%-95% range. After seeing the entire film I can tell Pixar knew they had a lot on the line, and made sure this lives up to all the hype they’re creating
@akrhyne- Awesome! As far as advice, I did my share of snooping around and say being over-prepared is the best bit of advice. Keep an eye on the Facebook event page to see if anyone in charge is engaging or answering any common questions. If not, things should be pretty chill:
-MAKE SURE YOU RSVP if you haven’t already. (Click Join on FB event or any other link they have posted) Depending on the theater they may actually go out the way to see if you’re on the list.
-HAVE YOUR COLLEGE ID. The biggest thing that matters lol. Not sure if you plan on bringing a guest but some theaters have actually allowed those with an ID to bring someone as a guest who isn’t in college.
-GET THERE EARLY. I got to the theater about and 1 hour and 45mins before it started and there were already about 30 people in line.
-IF YOU CAN, LEAVE ANY BAGS/BACKPACKS IN THE CAR. Saves up the hassle of them searching through it for electronics.
-THEY WILL TAKE YOUR PHONE and any other handheld device w/ a camera. NO EXCEPTIONS. Be prepared to leave your phone with them or leave it in the car to begin with. They have a pretty organized system set up to keep your phones safe during the movie so that’s what I did.
It’s too bad that they don’t have any early showings here in Canada.
I mean I’m not a college student anymore, I’m a few years beyond that…but my sister still is and if they allow a guest of someone who’s a student, then I could go with her…but yeah there are none in Canada anyway.
I thought I would just stick with the first trailer, but I gave in and watched the new one, too.
I’m glad I did, it got me even more hopeful about it than I was before. Not to mention all the positive reviews that have come out so far. In a few weeks, we’ll only have a month to go!
It’s weird that we still don’t have much information about John Ratzenberger’s role, even after the test screenings.
Now they’ve released this John Ratzenberger’s characters set of PEZ dispensers:
As you can see, there’s no additional dispenser for a character we don’t know. There’s only one Hamm and one Mack. Could it be that he is really going to reprise his Yeti?
This is only a speculative discussion. If anyone knows for a fact the real answer, please spoiler tag it!
I’m wondering if I should in general do an internet black-out in general for June when it comes out in the USA until July when the movie comes out here in the UK. (Some places are better about spoiling things then others though). PP seems generally pretty good about it though in of itself.
Even though I hated the idea at first I’m now thinking there’s a good chance I’ll enjoy this movie and I hope to be surprised. From certain vague reviews from early releases it sounds like it could be quite the hit! (Somehow managing to make a college movie g rated yet not feel ridiculously sanitized for instance is pretty impressive).
I’m predicting an 86 just because it’s a prequel to a classic and it’s Pixar so some people will have a bad taste in their mouths from Brave and Cars 2.
If there was never that “Pixar is making too many sequels” rant then it would be a 95% which i think it deserves.
^Aw, Rotten Tomatoes is overrated if you ask me. Considering I’m a big Pixar nut who loves Cars 2 and Brave, I’ve learned you can’t trust most critics as far as you can throw them
…Still excited… XD “One month and nine days until MU, one month and nine days until MU… is it the 13th yet? No? Ok then… one month and nine days until MU…”
It really is. The fact that the first two Toy Story films can get 100% and yet another film from the same director gets a very rotten rating ought to be questioned, but nobody does it. That’s just one example among others, such as critics overrating films that maybe aren’t that great on Rotten Tomatoes. Besides, the real response will be in the box office results (worldwide) that will tell how many people were willing to see it, and even more than once,
I’m excited for the movie, though. I might even go to the midnight premiere, something I’ve never done before, so that should be exciting! Plus I have one free ticket from the Monsters, Inc. 3D Blu-Ray combo pack, so yay!
While I also think Rotten Tomatoes’ scoring system is deeply flawed, the fact that the same director has helmed two films doesn’t mean in the slightness that they’ll have the same quality.
Coppola directed The Godfather, but also Jack. The Spielberg who directed Jaws was the same one who directed Hook. George Lucas directed the original Star Wars and his very next film in that role was The Phantom Menace (neither of which are bad, but there’s a big quality gap there)
Most directors have quality swings, because they aren’t, by any means, the only determining element in a film. If anything, I think the intervention of certain people and other elements in the Toy Stories is what made them better than other Lasseter films, more than Lasseter himself.
That said, I have no idea how Monsters University will be rated.
True. Even though Cars 2 wasn’t really a great film at all I think it deserved a mark in the 60s more than well… what it GOT. That’s what I feel anyway.
Things seem more or less positive for Monsters U so far though given early viewings- I think there will be some problems for international viewers (As someone from the UK I only know ANYTHING about sororities and fraternities because I watched Legally Blonde for instance as a teen… seriously), but while it won’t do as well on the site or in terms of critical reviews as Monsters Inc I seriously doubt it’d get slammed as much as Cars 2 did.
Overall its more the ‘Pixar’ brand rather than directors I believe which affects the scoring. People I think were almost delighted that Pixar had finally ‘failed’. Cars 2 isn’t awful- but it is definitely NOT on many other Pixar movies level- not even the first Cars- which I believe is in the mid- late 70s- which seems fair to me as a ‘mark’ as it were. The first Cars movie mark perfectly reflects it- good movie overall, but not to everyone’s tastes in the end. Other Pixar movies probably get too high marks though in retrospect too though. I don’t think any movie deserves 100% at all though- not even some of my favourite Pixar movies. Then again there is no perfect story (or movie) in my book. Most Pixar movies are 80s/early 90s really though in terms of range for me if I was able to dictate and control rotten tomato ratings.
Yes, I forgot to mention while the same director of multiple films does not mean an equally great film, I should have specified that this has been true in the case of Pixar to me, despite that others disagree. With them, it actually does mean to me that in the slightest that they’ll have the same quality, in my opinion, and I don’t see why Pixar should have to fall in the same director dillema as other studios if they have a different methods of movie-making. What I did mean, though, is how that was barely even questioned. Maybe less questionable if you go from 80% to 48%, but 100% to 30-whatever percent? That’s off to me. And even though I admit to having a small preference of Toy Story 1 & 2 to his other films, I technically don’t think that they are any better than his other three films as I find them just as entertaining, and I guess that’s where opinion comes in.
I’m not trying to be mean with what I’m about to say, but I’m going somewhere with it (remember, I love Pixar): I actually kind of hope that over the years, reviews become harsher and Pixar starts reviewing lower scores more often. Maybe that will start raising some eyebrows and people won’t rely on critical reviews and instead just watch the movies because they like the idea and the studio. Nobody will care if Monsters University or Finding Dory would get a low rating because they care more about seeing a movie they’re sure they’ll enjoy like the last three sequels, which is why none of them flopped worldwide, not even Cars 2.
…so far, I am currently only interested in the Rotoscopers’ review. I love their honesty and positivity! Anyway, I don’t know about you guys, but I’d rather watch the clips or read more news that premiere online instead of reading the other reviews. In fact, I’ll go looking for some right now…
It can happen. You’ll find dozens of such instances. The Spielberg example I used is 100% to 31% and Coppola’s is 100% to 17%.
Such dramatic quality swings are normal and must be embraced. An artist can’t always produce great works, so I don’t think it’s necessarily questionable just for that fact alone.
That said, I think Cars 2 isn’t a 30% film. The critics were rather harsh towards it, for reasons previously discussed. But, score aside, most experts agree that it’s a weaker final product than Lasseter’s previous ones, because of elements that they get a lot better than the audiences do. Sadly, film critics’ role in society has devolved into something a lot different than it should be, but that’s a story for a completely different board.
I think the bias towards Pixar, both positive and negative is dying out, which will mean more objective scores. And that’s a good thing. I think that almost guarantees Monsters University a fresh score, but how high will depend on the film’s own merits.
You’re right, it can happen, I just happen to have an opposite opinion to those who score films that way. I haven’t seen any films from the directors you brought up Spirit, but I’m sure the comparison RT made was somewhat if not very extreme in both director’s cases, although I can’t know for sure.
And I have no problem with Cars 2 being a person’s least favorite Pixar film. I do understand why people don’t like certain parts of it, I just disagree with the reasoning as to why. I can understand the other films doing certain things better, but I can also think of two things I think Cars 2 did better than any Pixar film right of the top of my head: the attention to detail and the complexity of the plot. There’s pretty much no argument on the detail in this film, and while I know some people don’t like complex plots in these movies, I think a) It’s refreshing (something critics want) and b) It can cater to an adult audience in verbal besides visual way (adult audience is also a critic’s favorite). I actually wonder how young kids can follow what’s actually going on concerning the spy plot considering I was constantly trying to keep up with it throughout the movie, and I enjoyed it, but yet it was deemed a kid’s movie probably just because “action and cute characters alone are appealing to kids”. They may just be talking cars, but apparently they can be pretty darn clever too.
So I do understand a lot of the points, but I don’t always agree that the reasoning makes it a bad thing. I don’t want to annoy you guys more with why I love that movie, and I’m sorry for talking too much, but while I think critics will enjoy Monsters University, I’m more excited that the hype is growing bigger and bigger with toys and TV spots and such. I wish it didn’t have to be that a studio has to have one or more movies declared as bad, but I think Pixar and Disney and other studios are trying to break that trend. Honestly, I’m pretty impressed with a lot movies within the last decade in general, a lot of effort put into animated and live-action movies.
I am so jealous, I’m gonna, uh, kick this chair. swings leg at chair, falls down
Plus I have one free ticket from the Monsters, Inc. 3D Blu-Ray combo pack, so yay!