Central Monsters University Discussion

After being a little disappointed at Pixar with Cars 2 and Brave, this films has re-sparked my love for them. It had a lot of throwbacks to why I got into this fandom in the first place.

I still like the first one more (because it was a very important thing for me while growing, and because you can’t replace Boo), but this is every bit as good.

Lovely stuff. I just wish there had been a little [spoil]Celia[/spoil]cameo at the end, but I’m ok with this.

I thought the same thing, but [spoil]the film seems to imply that it takes place at least about 10 years beforehand, and that’d make Mike almost as bad as Buzz when it comes to courting women. xD[/spoil]

I mean for the cameo to be at the very end, when [spoil]they’re finally working at the factory as a scare team.

She didn’t need to be in the film as Mike’s girlfriend either. She could just be a new young receptionist whom he admires from afar.

And, anyway, I believe there was a reference to her in Mike’s locker, which at least was nice.[/spoil]

[spoil]Yeah, their was a picture of her in his locker. :slight_smile:

Maybe they’ll be a cute short about them. That’d be nice. :slight_smile:[/spoil]

Good. I hadn’t caught which was the reference to the character that was supposed to be there. For some reason I didn’t see it. I’ll look closely next time.

I’m not complaining any more, then.

[spoil]It had a lipstick mark on it and everything. ;D[/spoil]

Oh, so the [spoil]courtship was actually really long.[/spoil]

Logged on for the first time in ages to say that I very much disagree on all accounts. I’d go as far as to say it’s the studio’s best film since Ratatouille in terms of a quality story. It’s at least eons better than Toy Story 3 ever was.

I certainly didn’t expect the movie to turn out the way it did, especially the last 1/3. Wow. I mean yeah, we all knew Mike and Sulley would become best friends and eventually join Monsters, Inc. as scarers, but I certainly didn’t expect them to get kicked out of the scaring program and for Sulley to cheat his way into Mike winning the Scare Games. I didn’t expect the duo to get stuck in the human world only for them to power the door from the other side by scaring the absolute patootie out of the police officers. I didn’t expect them to join as mail persons.

There were definitely more twists and turns than anything in the Toy Story franchise or even classics like Finding Nemo (we all knew Nemo would eventually be rescued). What matters is the journey leading up to the end. Monsters University was a very much needed and welcome prequel to a fantastic movie and basically gives new life to the characters we’ve grown accustomed to for the past 12 years.

To anyone reading this, I’d say go see the film. You won’t be disappointed (or you shouldn’t) :smiley:

[spoil]Well, the picture was in his locker when he was hanging up the 1st way as a scare team sign, so I have no idea how long ago that was.[/spoil]

I still don’t have much to say apart from the occasional long-winded wail of eternal sadness because I have to wait so long 'til I can see it myself, but I want to thank you guys for, yeah, spoilering your spoilers. You rock. :slight_smile:

No problem :slight_smile:

But maybe it would be better if you avoid this board until you see it, because something may escape.

That’s what I did with Cars 2 and Brave, which came very late here.

I saw the movie on June 21st. I thought it was well done.

Now…

About Randall…

[spoiler]I’ve seen a lot of people online various places calling Randall a jerk in this movie. I don’t really think he was much of a jerk, personally.

  1. Some people think Randall is a jerk for not joining Mike’s team when Mike asks him. The thing is…it’s not like Randall joined ROR after Mike asks him. Randall had ALREADY joined ROR by the time Mike asks him to be on his team. Not to mention if Randall had suddenly left ROR to be on Mike’s team, then ROR would have been screwed over by not having enough members because they were about to close the scare game entries.

So essentially Mike put Randall into a VERY awkward position there where by no matter what choice Randall made, he would have upset someone and looked like a jerk to someone. It was a really awkward no win kind of situation. I don’t know why people are so mad at Randall about it. It wasn’t his fault.

Mike no longer tried to talk to Randall after this…even though personally, I would not blame a friend of mine for joining another team, especially not if they had ALREADY joined it before I ever asked them to be on my team. How was Randall to know that Mike would ever even join any fraternity?

  1. I do also feel like once Randall was on ROR, he didn’t have as much of an option of turning back because I think that Johnny would have seriously humiliated him otherwise or beat him up. I doubt that the prank he does to Mike and the gang was planned by him, and I doubt that he really even truly wanted to do it(I don’t think he wanted to because he does look really uncomfortable in a lot of scenes where Johnny is talking down/insulting Mike). My reasoning is also because it makes more sense that it would have been Johnny’s idea and I think Johnny had Randall be the one to pull the string on the prank because it would hurt Mike more if a former FRIEND was the one who physically pulled that string. If Randall didn’t do it, I think he would have been abused by Johnny in some way.

And don’t forget that Randall had stuff dumped on him by Mike and Sulley earlier in the movie. It wasn’t intentional in that case but it still happened. His cupcakes got ruined, ended up smashed into his face infront of those he was trying to impress…by none other than Mike and Sulley. It’s not their fault really, I’m just saying that Randall might have felt like this prank was pretty much like what happened to him with the cupcakes, and maybe he thought Mike and Sulley really did crash into him and ruin his cupcakes on purpose. I mean who knows right?

  1. Then there is also the fact that Randall had a pretty legit reason to be upset after Sulley beat him in the scare games since Sulley did cause him to mess up, even if it wasn’t necessarily intentional…it did make Randall mess up. And then it gets even worse. One of the other members of ROR also messed up during that event at the scare games(the big green guy, forget what his name is)…and in his case it was his own fault that he messed up, unlike Randall. And that guy did NOT get kicked off of ROR but Randall did! I know they don’t show Randall actually getting kicked out of ROR after the scare games but I doubt that he just left. He probably was kicked out by Johnny. We see ROR without Randall and they’re asking Sulley to join again. They must have kicked Randall out. It’s really sad, considering it wasn’t even Randall’s fault that he messed up at the games…and that one of his teammates really did mess up but he did not get kicked out. And it makes it very obvious that these guys were definitely never his friends.

Sulley also cheated in the scare games. ROR never did!

It’s no wonder Randall always feels like something unfair is going down.

I really hope that they do make a sequel in which for at least part of the movie, they redeem Randall’s character because it is honestly really sad that all of this happened because he was so insecure and then got used by some nastier characters like Johnny. Then in MI, he gets used by Waternoose and has a harder time getting over the incident with Sulley because it continues to be rubbed in his face all the time with comments from Waternoose such as “You’ll never be half the scarer that Sulley is.”

Obviously Randall isn’t some perfect guy who’s perfectly nice or anything but his story is really empathetic and I would find it very sad for them to have really killed him off at the end of MI. He’s more of a tragic character than he is a villain and he deserves for something good to happen in his life.

Someday Randall needs to learn that being yourself at the end of the day is more fulfilling than trying to be someone you’re not. Obviously what he’s become is not making him happy is it? He’s not happy in MI. He needs to be himself again and stop being someone fake. I learned that myself a number of years ago as a teen.

I want to see him learn that, somehow. I want him to have help. I don’t want him to die. :frowning:[/spoiler]

Well, I’ll keep it simple. I adored it.

I have a review written on my animatino blog, I’ll post it here when it’s published!

I will say, I loved Randall in this one. Pixar handled his backstory perfectly. Still my favorite Monsters character.

If I wasn’t happy with something in the film, was that [spoil]Randall’s fallout with Mike[/spoil]felt a little rushed. I would have liked it to have a more critical turning point.

Well it was kind of a big point. When he [spoil]pulled the rope during the humiliation,[/spoil] I felt a big sense [spoil]of betrayal[/spoil].

I just got back from this. I have to say, it was just plain fantastic and very Pixar quality and I can’t imagine any fans of the studio not liking it. There’s just so much to love here.

I’ll make it clear that I loved both Cars 2 and Brave. Pixar has never really disappointed me. But I came away from both wondering when the next time I’d come from a Pixar movie getting that thrill my favorite works of theirs gave me. This was that next time!

All the new characters were fantastic, I warmed up to them immediately. The team dynamic going on with Oozma Kappa was a ton of fun. And needless to say, the animation/rendering were top-notch—and contrasting it with MI, really shows how far along the studio’s come. The color palette had a really nostalgic feeling to it and the location design was incredibly scenic.

At least for the most part, it moved along at a solid pace. Maybe there’s more of certain parts I’d have liked to have seen, but I’m overall very satisfied. Not to mention it took some twists I was not expecting as it reached its climax. [spoil]From Sulley cheating to the whole scene of them in the human world, trying to scare away the human cops… I was on the edge of my seat. Just bravo to the whole ending.[/spoil] And on top of that, it perfectly segued itself into MI!

[spoil]Maybe my only vague disappointment was that we couldn’t see more of how Randall turned against Mike and Sulley, or rather, at what point he decided he didn’t want to be a part of them given how pivotal of an antagonist he became in MI. Still, the early scenes with him as an almost completely different character were really charming, helping Mike study.[/spoil]

Oh and [spoil]Waternoose’s cameo at the end!! And Roz!![/spoil] All the nods the sequel were great. They got big laughs out of everyone in the theater. :smiley:

I know a lot of people think it wasn’t very necessary to make a prequel to MI in the first place, but going by that logic, there wasn’t much of a need to do the Toy Story sequels then either. Both Monsters Inc. and Toy Story have, in my opinion, the most creative and uniquely “Pixar” universes to them, and that’s why the Toy Story sequels are so great—they build up on that amazing universe, while keeping the characters strong and introducing new ones. Even if MU was almost at disadvantage for being a prequel because we would have to undo progress, I’ve gotta say, it accomplishes everything a prequel should. It developed the lead characters fantastically and makes their sense of purpose in the sequel even stronger than it already was.

This movie, I feel, deeply rekindled my passion for Pixar and reminded me of just how brilliantly fun their work is. I’m really happy with it. Definitely see it!!

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Here’s my thoughts. WARNING: STUPID AMOUNT OF SPOILERS

I can’t believe how similar Leirin’s opinion on this is to mine!

Yes, that was my only grieve too!

Yes, but it was all very sudden, without any part were you see [spoil]Randall truly beginning to dislike Mike. Also, there’s no reaction from Mike after that. He was just angry at ROR, but he never stopped to say “Hey, that was my former best friend with them. This is kind of horrible”.[/spoil]

But it’s a very, very little thing. While I think more of the film, more I think I liked it! Loved it, even!

MY PIXAR IS BACK! 8D

Well, after Cars 2 and Brave (which, let me say, I both enjoyed and thought were good movies, just not exactly amazing as Pixar movies tend to be), I must say that Monsters University was just fantastic, and I enjoyed it even more than I thought I would.

The plot was a bit predictable for the first 2/3 of the film or so, but as soon as it’s revealed Sulley cheated, the film takes an unexpected and quite epic turn. The scene where they have to scare the cops, the way it gradually escalated from a creepy record playing to the eventual roar and an entire freaking explosion was just so incredibly cool. I thought the character development between Mike and Sulley was exceptional, and it adds so much character that will make seeing the original that much better. As others have said, the Roz, Waternoose, and Abominable Snowman (jeez, they must be strict at MI to banish him for tampering with mail) cameos were great as well. Also, I’m not sure why, but the scene in the library was probably my favorite. I just loved seeing them distract the librarian, it pumped me up and had me laughing. 8D

I loved the characters, the comical and physical humor, the deeper-than-expected plot, the music, and of course the stunning animation. I even managed to catch A113 [spoil]on the door of the first classroom Mike and Sulley are in[/spoil]! I didn’t notice the Pizza Planet truck however. Anyone know where that was?

I’d give the movie a solid 9 out of 10. Still, they haven’t explained the major plothole of Mike saying he’s been jealous of Sulley’s good looks since the third grade, seeing as they met in college. :stuck_out_tongue:

Also, anyone know the song they used at the beginning of the end credits when it shows [spoil]Mike and Sulley working their way up at Monsters, Inc.?[/spoil] I thought it was a great arrangement, and I don’t see it on the soundtrack (I could be wrong though).

Yes, we caught it laughed very hard. I loved that [spoil]it was in a classroom, since that was the origin of the reference, and because we also have an A113 classroom in my university[/spoil]!

The truck was in a parking lot, but right now I don’t remember exactly when.