Challenges

Every Pixar film has a

challenge. I wonder what could it be? Any thoughts/suggestions?

Nice idea. And yay – another chance

for me to spill my Ratatouille love out on. :smiley:

Here are my suggestions:

1) Remy vs. the Chef - Well…let’s see. Remy, according to numerous

articles and resources, makes a winning soup that catches the chef’s attention. Maybe he’ll get jealous and try

to make a dish that is better than Remy’s? Then Remy takes the bet and tries to make a better dish than the

chef’s. And the race is on… :smiley:

2) Remy and His Family - I bet Remy and

his family will have a lot of conflicts between themselves throught the film – Remy likes good food, whilst his

family doesn’t care what a morsel looks like…as long as it is edible. And we already heard Remy’s dad

disagree with him in the teaser trailer, so…

I dunno – these are only guesses. But we’ll find out

what the real deal is next year, won’t we? :slight_smile:

I meant any

chalenges for Pixar. Like what obstacles will they encounter? For example: TI (hair/clothing simulation, human

animation)

Woah man…I was totally off. Heh – sorry about that.

Probably some of these:

Lighting - That’ll be tough, with all of the restraunt lights and city

lights all over the place. Not to mention, they’ll have to capture the feeling of Paris via special lighting and

shadow effects. I mean, this is only the second time that they have focused their story around a known, central

location – the other was Sydney, Australia in Finding Nemo.

Hair - Unless they have developed a program that works better with the hair,

they’ll probably have a few technical difficulties on their hands. It was hard enough with [i]The

Incredibles[/i]…

Fur - Not that fur is impossible to create

and manipulate – they sure figured it out with some of the monsters’ hair and fur in [i]Monsters

Inc.[/i]; and Buster’s “fur” wasn’t too bad. Squeaker’s fur wasn’t half bad, either. But

rats’ fur? Well…actually…they didn’t do too bad of a job of Remy’s and Rollie’s fur in the teaser

trailer. Myself being a rat critic, their fur could have been a little less coarse, I suppose; all-in-all,

though, it looked awesome.

What about the

Lighting in the sewers? I bet that would be difficult as well. In addition, I don’t see how hair is going to be

hard? When do they use hair in Ratatouille. I don’t think they are going to go as far as doing Violet’s hair

again. And fur. They done monsters, so wouldn’t this be less of a challenge?

Heh –

I knew that I would get something wrong there. (snigger)

Yeah, I was gonna mention the sewers, as well.

That’ll be tough – although, from what I saw in the teaser, it sure looks pretty dang good…for my taste, at

least. Then again, that was just the teaser…

Hair - When do they use hair?

For the humans, right? :stuck_out_tongue: (snigger) Either they’ll do their best to avoid it altogether, or they’ll deal with

it. Might be a bit of both.

Fur - Yeah, I figured as much. Of course, being a

rat lover, I feel as if everything has to be absolutely perfect when dealing with

these fuzzy critters – the fur has to be top notch; their profiles have to resemble that of a rat; their tails

have to be long enough (yes, Remy’s and Rollie’s tails are not as long as they should be – heh). Now, please

don’t get me wrong; nobody is perfect. However, you’re right; I trust Pixar. Fur probably won’t be that big of

a problem…

Hair: I don’t think there is going to be anyone with long hair. So I think we can

throw that one out.

Fur: Since they encountered fur, I think they will challenge themselves to make the

fur look more complex or even Better.

(Man, I haven’t had this much fun discussing something since I last asked my dad a question about

Star Wars. :stuck_out_tongue: )

Hair: I agree. Long hair =

difficulties. However, wouldn’t it seem kinda weird if everybody in France had short hair? :wink:

Fur: Indeed. They will have to make it adequate enough to the point of

believeability. However, I respect the fact that Pixar makes their films very advanced concerning scenery and

“looks”, but not too advanced that the eye-candy is over-powering. They

put a few cartoony qualites and a tad bit of realism into their films, and I absolutely love that.

Well, Like in the

Incredibles, I don’t think Brad Bird wants hyper realism. If they can make it believable, the audience should

not notice.

Just the thought of creating an animated film and making it an instant classic, 7 times in a row, must be a

challenge!

Ratatouille will be number 8 for them, and I think those folks have perfected the art.

I know that, technology-wise, Pixar always try to create

new challenges for themselves with every new film that they make, but, thinking through all of the scenes that we

know will be in Ratatouille, so far, I can’t think of much. Pixar are the masters of lighting- even their

concept art proves this- so that shouldn’t be too much of a problem.

John Lasseter answered that

question in the JoBlo Interview:

[b]You talked about the increasing technical challenges with

each film, so what?s the big hurdle with rats? [/b]

The rats themselves. Our new movie

RATATOUILLE is about a rat that wants to be a fine chef and it?s a story about following ones passion against all

odds. And what odds?you know, a rat to a kitchen is death and a kitchen to a rat is death, so those are pretty

big odds.

One of the challenges we had with that is that in the principles of animation there is a

technique called Squash and Stretch, and its been a part of our animation from the very beginning. As a student

animator, one of the tests you do is to start with a bouncing rubber ball, but then you go on to what they call

the ?flour sack.? And it was something I learned. Its like?you know the old cloth sacks of flour?if you take it

and lift it up you can see that it kind of stretches out and you drop it. Pffft. And you move it all different

ways and what happens is it?s constantly flexible however it never changes volume. And that?s the essence of

Squash and Stretch.

And that?s something by nature that hand drawn animation has been able to do extremely

well. You look at the Seven Dwarves?Dopey and Doc and Grumpy and all that stuff?they were doing it back then so

well. But it?s something you haven?t seen in computer animation. In THE INCREDIBLES we did an amazing job in

getting the feeling of bone structure underneath with muscles and the skin and the clothing on top of that, which

is totally unique and hadn?t been done before to that level. But it still didn?t have that Seven Dwarves level of

squash and stretch that we loved as animators. And so when we started with RATATOUILLE we said we want to solve

this, we want to figure out a way to get the really, really flexible.

And just like in CARS, where we

studied the cars, studied Route 66, studied every aspects of it and the physics of the cars?the same goes for the

rats. We have these pet rats in the animation department that you watch and you see how they move and they curl

up into a little ball, they stretch out, they climb under things, they climb over stuff. It?s unbelievable. And

that?s been a very exciting development. And when you see the characters and you see them moving around, its

pretty special. It?s unlike anything you?ve seen. It?s very natural for the world we?re creating, in this kind of

cartoony world that takes place in Paris, France and the French countryside. It?s really special and you haven?t

seen this in computer animation before.

Well, I guess Groaning just gave you the definitive post right there :slight_smile:

Haha – true that! :smiley:

Thank you

for posting up that very informative article, Groaning! I quite enjoyed

reading/reviewing it.

Yes, I did notice that they seemed to “up” the "squash and

stretch" effect with their characters – in viewing the Ratatouille trailer

(and I forgot to mention this in my “Rats” post) I noticed that the title character of Remy seemed to

have more flexibility than other Pixar characters. Yes, the animation was beautiful and everything, but even more

so due to the fact that it, like Mr. Lasseter said, was improved considerably.

I would love to give a

step-by-step analysis of how the Pixar animators matched the movements of Remy to that of a real rat perfectly,

but it would take up too much time. :wink:

You don’t know

how jealous I am at this moment. Oh, how I wish I could be there to “help” them play with their

rats… :smiley:

Oh, right- well, that pretty

much answers our question. Ratatouille does look a lot more cartoony than previous Pixar films so far, that’s

for sure.

Which is why I

love it! I can’t wait to see what the other characters in the film will look like… :wink:

Well, you saw one of the characters. A

big, chubby brown rat.

The Star Swordsman - Indeed – “Rollie” has a

very cartoony and flexible look to him, as well, despite his apparent “chubbiness”.

However, I

was referring to those other characters whom we have not yet seen or heard about yet (ie., Remy’s family, the

chef, Linguini, etc…). Will they be just as flexible? Will the fluid movements of the known characters be

applied to the humans as well?

I guess we’ll never know. I guess we will have to wait for the movie to come out.

I guess so. It seems as if June 29 can’t come soon

enough – I’ve been practically skipping with excitement. :stuck_out_tongue: