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#21

Lizard Girl

Bit of conflict…Waternoose is not an

inventor, duh…but the Scare Co. Research and Development team ARE. Seeing as how the Scream Shortage and the

“bringing-about” of the Scream Extractor would require public acceptance, the R&D division could be

said as the ones who gave the design plans to Waternoose. Who thereby passed it to Randall.
Of course, this is

accompanied by the fact that the Scream Extractor is made primarily out of Monsters Inc.

parts.

Yes…stealing the ideas of Minorities…
And as known, from Randall, the reptilian species is

quite intellegent. Excuse me if that’s wrong, I was trying to be humorous heh.

True. The Door Mechanism

is big. It brought forth the foundation of Scare Co. and all of Scarering. Well…not really the foundation of

Scareing itself as that went on before.

Pitbulllady

Please heh. You

know me as a dedicated research. I have nearly more information than anyone and am willing to pitch it in here

and there.
Hmm…well remember it was the Floyd Waternoose Memorial service…it would be one of Henry’s

deceased kin…though rather it’s his father or not I assumed.

[b]Double

Latte[/b]

Henry, like his family, have always been in power. They have HAD money, they HAD long

lasting families, they HAD power. Randall did not have those things.
Someone who has so much at the start, who

got there because of their family’s dark actions, and is willing to do ANYTHING to KEEP the

power…that’s…just wrong.

Yes and I did see Training Day. And Denzel’s character was using his

authority, his say, to keep ahead. That is NOT something to see in too much light. Yes yes…I know someone will

make a comment about Randall here, but hear me out.
What Denzel’s character did is use his authoritive power

to keep up. Use HIS word against anybody else. Continue the string of lies that would keep him afloat. The man

killed a friend for a money stash to keep HIMSELF in good connections with…if I recall…a Cartel gang. And not

only that, but having to make up stories with his fellows to keep his butt out of trouble.
Randall could NOT

get out of his situation. And he was more desperate. He had NOTHING.
Waternoose HAD everything. His FAMILY had

had everything for several generations. And when he’s about to lose it because of how the world turns, he is

willing to hurt EVEN his friends. KILL his friends. Silence ANYONE…to keep up something HE and HIS family did

not deserve…

If only people knew how the Waternooses kept up as long as they did…what skeletons hide

in their closets…

THANK YOU. For saying “BACK on top”. As Randall WAS Top Scarer

before Sullivan.

Lizard Girl
You know, Ran was shocked at being

accused…but he was probably more shocked of being accused by someone HE thought was cheating.

#22

Nexas- Yeah, that’s true- kind of a "Double

Whammy" (one of Steve Buscemi’s films, had to slip it in there, :laughing:) there, not only to be accused of

cheating in the first place, but to be accused of cheating by someone that Randall thought might be cheating

himself.

#23

Heh. Clever.

#24

You mean Mike? How was he cheating?

#25

Mike WASN’T cheating, per se, but since he was a part of the

Sullivan/Wazowski team, which most likely WAS getting some behind-the-scenes assistance from Sullivan’s other

pal, Mr. “You’ve Been Like a Father To Me” Waternoose. Since Randall most likely knew that

something to that effect was up, it would not have been a huge leap of logic for him

to figure that Mike was aware of it, too. I don’t think that even Randall fully understood just how dense and

utterly clueless Mike Wazowski actually was up until that point.

pitbulllady

#26

In effect, the two WERE cheating they just didn’t know

it. Randall KNEW he was the better Scarer and had the thought SULLIVAN knew it too. But the fact that Sullivan or

Wazowski didn’t admit he was better just blew the whole cheating issue up and blinded Ran to think that it was

those two tipping the numbers, even though it was Waternoose’s plan.

#27

In effect, the two WERE cheating they just didn’t know it. Randall KNEW he was the

better Scarer and had the thought SULLIVAN knew it too. But the fact that Sullivan or Wazowski didn’t admit he

was better just blew the whole cheating issue up and blinded Ran to think that it was those two tipping the

numbers, even though it was Waternoose’s plan.

#28

Wow! I never really caught that! (i mean with

the DVD menu, the conversation I heard, but I never knew entirely what they were saying till now) I’ll have to

pay more attention the next time I watch it!

#29

If

they didn’t know it, then I wouldn’t consider it “cheating.” Cheating is something that you’re very

well aware of because you have a purpose for it. As far as I know, Sullivan wasn’t aware of any rigging or

special assistance from Waternoose; he truly believed his hard work was his own and no one else’s. The same

would go for Mike, who probably thought he was the core reason Sullivan was so fantastic at doing what he did.

Waternoose having done a little rigging to boost Sullivan’s scare numbers is very

likely, and I agree, but it is not 100% official. It works perfectly AND would make

sense, but I don’t like to think of it as something that really did happen in the

movie because we never saw anything that confirmed it, unlike the SE scandal having been Waternoose’s idea.

#30

Even in the likely scenario of Waternoose doing a little bit of rigging behind

the scenes, it’s VERY unlikely that Mike or Sulley would have figured that out. Randall, on the other hand,

would not have known that they were unaware of this, and would have just known that

something was strange, in terms of their team ALWAYS being on top, out of all the

Scare Teams in the factory(and we only got to see ONE floor, with ONE shift, and that was still a LOT of teams).

I can see how he could assume that they might be involved in something dishonest to maintain that lead for so

long.

pitbulllady

#31

Doublelatte

Well perhaps. But when a person KNOWS that someone below them

works hard and never gets ahead, and WAS once ahead, and doesn’t question their own abilities…well…cheating

might not be the appropriate word…but something close to it.

Ah a skeptic…true in front, not willing

to accept…
Oh well…that’s why “discussion” was born.

Evidence:

  1. Sullivan has held

the Scare Record for a year.
With the above, Randall was Top Scarer before.
With the above,

Randall was not a cheater.

  1. Sullivan and Randall clearly have two different score rises. Randall, having

been Top Scarer before, is thereby a better Scarer than Sullivan is and obtains more scream.
However, seen in

the movie, Sullivan’s rate increases more than Randall does, even though the two scared successfully.

After Randall HAD managed to get back on top, not gloating mind you, it JUST so happens that Sullivan gets a door

with a slumber party.
With above, this event just so happens to occur when Waternoose comes onto the

floor.
With above, George’s assistant comments Mike that his “numbers are pretty sweet”.

Although seemingly not as important, the fact that the two have gotten several good doors is

suspecious.

I could have more if I wanted to, but I think the facts speak for

themselves…

Pitbulllady

Well yes I suppose. Mike most

likely.

Over a thousand workers if I recall, and that’s just Scarers.

#32

That’s very nice speculation, Nexas, and it’d be great for

fanfiction and discussion, but not something that I would make myself believe as

canon.

#33

I consider my research Fact rather than

speculation. As I diligently am researching using every media at my disposal.
I’m not one to change an

opinion, free-will and all, but I don’t think we’ll be seeing much of anything “canon” soon, other

than from my research so far.