First of all, don’t turn this into another debate. Geesh.
I just wanted to say I’m not sure if they are good. I know we have the right to debate, but many turn into insulting and aggressiveness from both sides that makes many of us uncomfortable. I try to avoid them, but for those who don’t, I have seen unnecessary conflict. This is a PIXAR forum, and last time I checked, there are no Pixar movies about Creationism vs. Evolutionism or Gay Marriage, unless I missed something . I personally like to debate, but hate it when people get upset or out of control. I know I have done this and most likely I have hurt feelings and tarnished my reputation. There are thousands of websites available to debate serious topics, I bet.
As much as I’ve argued in them, I don’t like them either. It’s only made me realize the sorts of people that are on this forum, and have made me consider to leave the boards finally, for good.
I mean, I know some people are nice when it doesn’t come to these sorts of debates … so I’d rather not know that side to people. It just really makes me uncomfortable here.
I believe that debating ensures that everybody understands both sides of the argument, whether you believe in creationism or evolution, gay marriage or straight marraige, or what ever, we need to understand where the other side is coming from.
But this is Pixar Planet, so shouldn’t the only debates be Pixar related?
If we only should talk about Pixar, maybe we should just get rid of the whole Off-topic and Members, Inc. section then?
I don’t think it’s right to selectively ban certain topics. If you don’t like the debate threads, then stay out of them as other members choose to do. Anyone who enters them, does so at their own risk, I guess. They can handle themselves. I’d rather the mods give warnings or let people know when they are out of line than to just close the thread with no warning. Otherwise it would be safe to assume that there is nothing wrong with the debate threads. Let the mods make that decision.
Yes, this is Pixar Planet, but like I’ve said before, I like talking about other things in addition to Pixar. Plus, I’m too lazy to sign up to any other forums.
Even though, this is Pixar Planet, I don’t see anything wrong with debating over issues that effect our world and our way of thinking. Its nice to balance talk of both Pixar and off-topic issues.
I, personally, love the debating threads. They’re interesting, and rarely get out of hand (as far as I’m aware). It’s one of the reasons why I like this place- most members are mature enough to talk about these topics without it getting personal or unnecessary.
I agree with Rac_Rules and FONY… I tend to get very angry and opinionated when I’m talking about politics or my beliefs (I know I should have stayed away in the first place, but when people are talking about stuff that is relevant to me, I can’t help but jump in ). And I agree with FONY about the “whole other side of people” thing. Those topics just make me angry, and I don’t like getting angry at people, because that’s not normally me. And then whenever you think about that certain person that may have made you mad, you’re always thinking about the things they said that rubbed you the wrong way.
I came on this site to tell you what I know about Pixar and express the things I love about their movies; not to get caught up in some horrible debate about abortion or religion. Like I said, there may be other people like me out there who know they shouldn’t jump in, but they do anyways, because they want their voice to be heard. And I want to apologize to those I may have made uncomfortable (I’m not apologizing for my view on things - I’m apologizing for the way I reacted. There is a difference). And I don’t want anyone to think that I (or anyone like me) am a jerk or something; and I especially don’t want to end up thinking like that about someone else.
I like off-topic subjects (like “what are you listening to” or “what is your favorite color”… etc) because they don’t involve debating. I’d much rather orally debate because I don’t get so out of hand; I don’t know if anyone agrees with me on that.
Anyways, I just wanted to get that in and get those things off my chest so there are no hard feelings.
Simple. If I see a controversial topic that I know I am strongly opinionated about, I know I’ve got two choices:
Join in, in which case, I prepare to have my views challenged, contended and quite possibly, changed.
Ignore it, if I think I can’t handle it.
I don’t mean to sound direct insert smiley face, but that’s the way things roll. Nobody has to make a stand on every issue (unless he/she really wants to, in which case the person has to prepare for a long battle). Nobody has to unanimously agree on a single opinion (although there are some universal truths, like if you jump off a high-rise building, you will go splat). If you’re not prepared to face the fact that someone you know and befriended here may have a radically different perspective from you, just avoid the threads and you would never find out!
I find it annoying too, when the same hot-smokin topics pop up again and again in the Latest Post, but you know what, I just ignore them (again, unless I have something to say).
The thing about debates, and life in general, is that there’s no single ‘truth’. Everything’s subjective. It all depends on your point of view. Or as the tagline from one of the Vantage Point (an excellent update on Rashomon, by the way) TV spots goes:
“Everyone has a point of view. But how you see the truth depends on your vantage point.”
This is the summation of the human experience. We all have our own POVs.
What rachelcakes said. People want to talk about other things than just Pixar, and I see nothing wrong with having debate topics. If you think that you will get out of control, or are afraid of someone starting an argument with you, then dont join in.