Disney Renaissance Era Films Classification?

Oh, okay. :slight_smile:

1.) Beauty and the Beast
2.)The Hunchback of Notre Dame
3.)Tarzan
4.)Mulan
5.)Hercules
6.)Aladdin
7.)The Lion King
8.) Pocohantas(I barely remember it, shame on me Sad )
9.)Rescuers Down Under(barely remember)
10.)The Little Mermaid

Some of these are very mixed up for me; there is only 1 I donā€™t like.

Pocahontas is on youtube if you want to watch it Virginia!

I wouldnā€™t say itā€™s that unpopular. My friend and I had a rather spirited debate on where the Renaissance begins and ends. While we both agreed that it more or less ended with the Lion King, I argued that Oliver & Company should be retroactively be included as the unofficial start of the movement as it contained a lot of the aspects that weā€™ve come to accept as the hallmarks of the era.

Some things like the modernization of a classic tale. Now most will argue that many Disney films do this to a degree but none moreso than Oliver (for the time anyway) taking the tale of Oliver Twist and transplanting it from Dickensian London to New York City in the 80s. Every Disney film during the Renaissance, save the Lion King for obvious reasons, updated classic tales and legends for modern consumption through the use of anachronisms instead of transplantation creating worlds that are fusions of different time periods and cultures.

Then there are the songs. There have been songs and practically every Disney flick prior to Oliver but there a sort of showmanship in this film that was continued throughout the era that just wasnā€™t readily apparent in previous films. Musical numbers from this film forward took on a more pop Broadway aspect

There are more things I used to make my point, but thatā€™s all I could think of off the top of my head. I couldnā€™t really convince her. Probably because looking back I didnā€™t make a very good case. But back to the topic at hand, I donā€™t think your opinion the beginning and end of the Renaissance is as unpopular as you may think.

Ooh!! I will, in that case. I love the princesses, even the ones who arenā€™t royalty. :stuck_out_tongue:

Personally:

1- The Hunchback of Notre Dame, not only my favorite Disney Renaissance film, but my favorite Disney film in general.
2- Tarzan, arguably the most nostalgic movie ever (for me).
3- The Rescuers Down Under, an action-packed; visually exciting feature, with a great score, one of my favorite opening scenes, and the fact that itā€™s loads better than the original.
4- Mulan, enough with the detailsā€¦everybody sing: ā€œLetā€™s get down to business, to defeat the Huns. Did they send me daughters, when I asked for sons?..Mister, Iā€™ll make a man out of you!ā€ :stuck_out_tongue:
5- The Lion King, thanks to this movie, reading Hamlet is now bearable.
6- Aladdin, rightfully so, he might not be anymore, but when this movie came out, Robin Williams was the king, and this was his peak of brilliance. Not to mention the rest of the movieā€™s great, too.
7- Beauty and the Beast, I donā€™t remember this movie much, but what I do remember is a simply beautiful picture. Also holding one of my favorite opening scenes, this is a Disney-princess movie that strives significantly away from the restā€¦for the better.
8-The Little Mermaid, the performances steal away the show, with Arielā€™s voice being very mystifying to listen to, and Ursula being one of Disneyā€™s best villains.
9-Hercules, a very funny; smart adventure with an exciting approach of animation, and Phil and Hades being very likeable characters.
10- Pocohantas, wellā€¦at least the songs are goodā€¦and the animals donā€™t talk.

Okay, I saw Mulan today, so hereā€™s my new list:

  1. Beauty and the Beast
    2.Hmmā€¦I canā€™t really decide between Mulan and Aladdin.
    Up next, Iā€™ll be trying out The Lion King.
    I know, Iā€™m a bad Disney fan, I havenā€™t seen many of their movies. :laughing:

Thereā€™s nothing wrong with just seeing them now, K9Girl! You probably get a different perspective, seeing these when youā€™re older. Like I might be slightly biased on my list below because Mermaid was my favorite movie and Ariel my favorite princess when I was little. Itā€™s hard for me to judge the film on its own merits due to the nostalgia factor.

  1. The Little Mermaid
  2. Beauty and the Beast
  3. The Lion King
  4. Mulan
  5. Tarzan
  6. Aladdin
  7. Pocahontas
  8. Hunchback of Notre Dame

Hercules and Rescuers are out of the picture because I havenā€™t seen them in forever and therefore canā€™t judge them fairly.

My APUSH teacher completely destroyed Pocahontas for me. We watched part of it in class and she lectured us about how horridly Disney butchered the real story, and that the real John Smith wouldnā€™t have been unshaven or had long golden locks D:

Iā€™m currently writing a research paper outline for this bogus art class I take. My topic of choice? The Disney Renaissance. Iā€™m trying to see how much of this I can just come up with on the top of my head from general knowledge, because, well, I havenā€™t done any technical research yet, unless you count Wikipedia or watching Waking Sleeping Beauty last summer. My teacher doesnā€™t need to know this, thoughā€¦ :smiley:

If you watch bonus features and concept art on Pocahontas, John Smith was actually older and was unshaven. It was also closer to the historical story.

I know Iā€™m being picky and that itā€™s ā€œa movieā€ but one reason Pocahontas is low on my list is because itā€™s a bastardzation of what happened, and even makes the real "legend: of Pocahontas a joke.

The decendents of the Powhatan Tribe (Pocaā€™s tribe) are actually p*ssed about that movie, and with good reason.

Did you like Malickā€™s The New World, e-j-e?

Yeah we learned about the bastardization of the facts in class back when I was an elementary school. There was even a lot of conversation about how homely Poca looked in the surviving illustrations. The fact that the teacher made such a big deal about that point was kinda funny.

But it really doesnā€™t torture history any more than other movies. Some of which have won Academy Awards basically commending them for their screw-ups. They include, Gladiator (because Commodus so got killed in the Colosseum by some soldier turned gladitorial combatant that looked like Russell Crowe) Braveheart (I actually donā€™t have that much time) and Amadeus (because overwhelming suspect really equals unending murderous hatred). Though unlike those other films it wasnā€™t nearly as entertaining. Futzing with history is not only par for the course in Hollywood, itā€™s almost encouraged!

I personally disagree with the notion that Pocahontasā€™ historical liberties made it a bad film, it was still a great story and many films based on or around real life events take liberties all the time.

Leon K Fox: I think that Pocahontas is a good film. Fantastic animation, decent characters, and it looked beautiful overall. But as an American History Enthusiast, I canā€™t help but be bothered by it at the same time

aerostarmonk: I actually havenā€™t had the pleasure of seeing The New World yet. And I agree, Hollywood does encourage it.

I havenā€™t seen any bonus features on Pocahontas, but those do sound interesting. An excuse to buy it on DVD, then!

I heard about the feud with the Powhatans. Apparently the tribe offered to help create a more accurate script, but Disney turned them down. Makes you wonder how the movie could have changed.

And Leon K Fox, Iā€™m not saying that I think it was a bad movie just because of the historical context; I do still enjoy it. But now, whenever I see it, I hear my teacherā€™s voice in the back of my mind, which tends to cast a shadow over things. Itā€™s not a horrible film by any stretch of the imagination- it is, in fact, quite a good film- but I just get less pleasure out of it now that I know the facts.

Hereā€™s my rankings:

  1. The Lion King
  2. Beauty and the Beast
  3. Mulan
  4. Aladdin
  5. The Little Mermaid
  6. Pocahontas
  7. Hercules
  8. Tarzan
  9. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
  10. The Rescuers Down Under

Check this out then!

youtube.com/watch?v=16hYo9oZ ā€¦ re=related

Sorry, but it doesnā€™t really bother me when Disney changes the stories, because they do it all the time. Iā€™m sort of numb to it, nd itā€™s nearly impossible to make an accurate CHLDRENā€™S film out of most of the stories out there. I suppose itā€™s wrong, but whatā€™s done is done.

Finally saw The Lion King.

  1. Beauty and the Beast
  2. The Lion King
  3. Mulan
  4. Aladdin
    Up next is The Little Mermaid.

Your list is so tiny! :laughing: (
Please donā€™t be offended; I just thought that was really funny)

^ Iā€™m not offended. Even I laugh at my puny list. :laughing:

Okay, good. :smiley:

Heres mine

  1. The Lion King- My favorite Disney film. Just epic
  2. Tarzan- It has good songs and lots of action
  3. Mulan- same as Tarzan but with a woman :slight_smile:
  4. Aladdin- I always like storyā€™s that are by the desert
  5. Hercules- Good, Also under rated. The song Go th Distance was played at my schools Grad. ceromomy.
  6. Hunchback of Notre Dame- Very dark and good story, Frollo is alwsome
  7. Pocahontas- Like it, Was one of the only that took place in America
  8. Beauty and the Beast- Good, Beast is a cool character and Gaston is a jerk.
  9. The Little Mermaid- Also like it, Seen most of it.
  10. The Rescuers Down Under- Good, buy havemā€™t seen all of it.