It’s like the previous 47 pages were just a dream.
Edit: Make that 48.
I used the argument with my christian religious studies teacher a while ago:
Well if god started the universe, what started god? Because if you think that it can’t be right if the universe and the big bang just ‘happened’, what about God? Eternal or not, there was nothing to propel him/her/it to be there, he was just there, which is the same as the big bang.
Lol, fett.
Well its all something we’ll never understand. whether you believe in Creation or Evolution, we’ll never ever really know how it all exactly happened. None of us were there to see it! BTW Wall-E, nice avatar! XD
One thing that irks me to no end is why Im being tought evolution like its a fact at school. If evolution is just a theory and can be tought, why can’t creation be tought as a myth? you can’t tell me its because of serveral religious differences because believe it or not, Evolution is becoming like a religion as well. their just different theories on the same thing. ever hear of Darwinism?
Pay more attention in science class 
A scientific theory is not synonymous with the popular definition of theory. There is evidence and peer review behind a scientific theory. They’re open to being testing and amended. Gravity and Germs are a scientific theory.
I wouldnt say gravity is a theory, you can see the effects of it. I wouldn’t say germs are theories either i’d say they’re proven facts. (plus im feeling those germs right now im cathing cold ) 
That’s rather the point I was making and why evolution is being taught in schools and creationism isn’t. There are facts and then there are theories. Facts are facts, obviously, such as ‘Things ‘fall’ to earth’. The theory is when scientist take these facts and assemble them in an attempt to explain why and how this is. ‘Gravity is the curvature of spacetime in proportion to the mass and momentum of an object’. A theory has to be supported by already known facts and any new ones that come to light.
A) you can see the effects of evolution
B) you can see the effects of gravity, but it could be a completely different forcefor all we know.
hmm, i think you’ve only got B, human growth can be misconstrued as evolution which is commonly the case. If that were the case Evolution would be declared a fact which it is not. Its still viewed as a theory.
A scientific theory isn’t the same as the popular meaning of theory. Evolution is a theory in the same way as the theory of gravity. A theory is an explanation of how things happen. There are still details to be worked out in both cases regarding how they function, but the general ideas of them are accepted as fact.
I really don’t give a hoot what my parents say/beleive, as they’re both fools. My dad drinks, dips, and smokes, and my mom is the most naive person I’ve ever met. My dad never says it, but I can tell by his views and opinions that he’s an Athiest, and that doesn’t sway me at all. My mom seems to beleive just whatever the people at my church say. Well, here’s my stance. I entirely and fully agree with evolution, but I don’t understand why that means I can’t love Jesus too. I believe we evolved over time, as God deemed necessary. I mean, really. Every year, humans are getting taller, less hairy. AND our unnecessary appendix is shrinking. At the same time, you can’t convince me that this much stuff, per se, happened by an accident. It was a miracle, by His hands. And BTW, Darwin went to church, and in no way was Athiest. If you must be Athiest, don’t blame him, you’re making a mistake. Noone can do that for you.Yes, I’m an uneducated fool. Yes indeed. But, I’m smarter than my parents, and that, my friends, is evolution.
You’re right in that he wasn’t atheist, he was agnostic.
He initially went to church. He was very religious before the voyage on the HMS Beagle. He was going to become a clergyman and would go around the ship quoting the bible, but his research on the trip changed that. He was agnostic.
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“I can indeed hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to be true; for if so the plain language of the text seems to show that the men who do not believe, and this would include my Father, Brother and almost all my best friends, will be everlastingly punished. And this is a damnable doctrine.”
“Nor must we overlook the probability of the constant inculcation in a belief in God on the minds of children producing so strong and perhaps as inherited effect on their brains not yet fully developed, that it would be as difficult for them to throw off their belief in God, as for a monkey to throw off its instinctive fear and hatred of a snake.”
I didn’t “learn” religion like that. My mom and dad didn’t, and probably don’t care. It’s a choice that I made on my own; I was not convinced, and if I really struggled, I would change my beliefs.
Here’s my belief on this: I think that, yes, God created the earth and everything in it, BUT, he did it simply, which, in turn, led to evolution and Darwin.
Those were quotes from Darwin supporting the fact that he was agnostic. The thread is “Evolution and Creation” after all. “What’s Your Religion/Spiritual Beliefs?” would be the place for discussions about religion itself.
Sorry, I was in a definitively bad mood when I said that.
Sweet holy moly scientific proofs galore (some of which I couldn’t get to since there’s a lot)!!! 
Now I’m no religious guru (and neither are my parents either, for that matter), but this is the way I see it (if anyone else has written this and I didn’t catch it my apologies 
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Creation, according to the Bible, took place in a mere 7 days (if you include the day of rest, or the Sabbath), but let us keep in mind that, in general (and in a non-offensive way), the Bible is a book of stories concerning the old and new testaments from creation to the birth and death of Jesus Christ and so on, and thus can contain symbolism. Point being, the actual story of creation may have taken MORE than 7 days (most likely in the form of evolution), and the writer of the book of Genesis wrote it while keeping this symbol in mind.
Unfortunately, I don’t have a clue about where God came from, as I’ve seen people asking.
I happen to be a goody-two-shoes Catholic girl (not really XD), and as one I believe that religion and science go together. flips up two pennies And that’s my $0.02 on the matter. Take it or leave it.
Eve, I agree!! 7 days to us is a lot different than 7 days to God. Why do the 2 sides have to be separated? I hate this woman, Grace, who teaches the little kids at my church. She’s from Haiti, and she always proclaims her feelings/thoughts as fact. I told her that my biology teacher told us we don’t have to be Atheist to like Evolution, and she told my mom I was misbehaving. Of course my mom didn’t buy it, especially since Grace asked what we had heard from outside sources. Yeah, I was totally “misbehaving.” Anyway, I don’t help with the children’s church anymore. Now I just remain in the sanctuary as she turns my brother and sisters into closed-minded fools.
While it is all well and good to interpret 7 days to be a on a different scale in God’s mind to 7 days in ours, and symbolism in interpreting certain aspects of the bible as symbols rather than plain fact, I do have a point to raise.
By what standard or means are you able to tell which parts of the bible to interpret as symbols and which parts are fact? Which is the correct interpretation of the bible?
I belief that the old Testament is a large, beautiful metaphor. However, I would never be fundamental(crazy) to take it literally. I read the new testament as fact, but I see Satan as a metaphor, not a person. I think Satan is the evil part of every person, not a fallen angel/devil.