Just. When you look at this scene, I ask myself, is this a comedy relief who comes down to raking in the laughs? Or is this a nuanced sympathetic character?
And just to add to speculation or to be a fanfiction-fuel nut, what is this “home” Dory refers to?
I also disagree about A Bug’s Life. I think it’s funny and sweet, too. And like Spirit said, to say it is bad is not objective, but I say that Cars 2 deserves that same recognition, no matter how many people say it’s bad. I’ve defended that film enough so I won’t ramble now, but I believe there are many more people out there who really enjoyed it than there are distraught Pixar “fans” over it.
Also, there are apparently one or more Pixar sequels after this that might possibly be on the way as well. I already regret bringing this up because I know the bashing and negativity will start up again, but should it have to? No one complains when DreamWorks or Blue Sky makes sequels for very long. I have really liked one of Pixar’s 3 sequels and loved the other 2 so far, and I expect I will enjoy their upcoming prequel and sequel as well. Not many theatrical sequels have disappointed me in the past anyway, so I don’t know why it sort of became an unspoken rule that sequels are bad news, “except for sometimes” as of recently.
Their next two films are original, and the current sequels are liked by most people anyway. So what’s the fuss about? The quotes from Andrew Stanton make the subject seem more valid, but even he wasn’t opposed to making the two John Carter sequels. He probably just doesn’t like the bad ones, excluding things like the Star Wars sequels and all of the ones Pixar has made.
I think it’s just another overhype. I’m still not worried for the company. Especially with them delivering an original film a year.
Really, what I’m personally nervous about is the new screenwriter Victoria Strouse, someone who is relatively unknown and never was involved in the original film. I don’t know if someone like her could treat the material with grace, yet stand-alone originality. Where did she come from? How did she become the screenwriter? Was she assigned randomly? And how much input did Stanton have anyway on the script itself?
But then again, it was Monsters University that allowed this filmmaker fellow I don’t know, Dan Scanlon, to have my trust.
Good point, Carol. I looked her up, and it looks like she’s written only TV shows plus one other movie which I am not familiar with. I’m sure Pixar selected carefully, and it will be like bringing in another Michael Arndt.
I’ve got high hopes for it still. That makes me wonder then, who is in charge of persuading these sequels onto Pixar? I thought John Lasseter was the one creatively in charge, so I know he wouldn’t do that. Maybe Andrew Stanton is just being extra skeptical on himself? He will do good though, I love all of his films, and he has a very focused vision of what he wants.
I’m quite interested in this. The concept art is lovely—very evocative of the pastels in the original movie’s concept art.
I have to say, Stanton’s quote is interesting… initially kind of depressing, but reading the article writer’s interpretation of it gives it a sort of positive spin. I have to wonder if Pixar is doing as well financially as they were in the previous decade if this is happening? Like you said, I thought Lasseter was mainly in charge, so I don’t get where the pressure is coming from.
But knowing there’s at least three original films scheduled for the next few years is hugely relieving. It just bums me out to know that the enthusiasm levels for these sequels really doesn’t seem as high because they aren’t films “we really want to make” as Stanton said…
That piece of concept art is quite interesting. Gloomy, dark, and enigmatic in a way. Looking at it already brings that atmospheric feeling of Finding Nemo back.
Recently saw a tweet from Ellen DeGeneres about how she was starting recording for Finding Dory and how excited she was to be doing it. So it looks like they’re getting things rolling
Guys, Disney is clearly using Pixar as their sequel outlet since Lasseter shut them down on their sequels years ago. Pixar didn’t want to do TOy Story 3, Disney did. But it still found up as amazing as it did. And how many sequels/prequels has Pixar done now? Four? Only one of those has been considered “bad”. (Which I will defend it forever, because especially now that I have been through animation school, I can truly appreciate that even if it isn’t Pixar’s best, it required no shortage of blood, sweat, and tears to make. So when people go on about how lazy and stupid it is, it’s an insult to the crew.) So that’s one sequel out of four that hasn’t done well. We can’t immediately assume this one is going to be bad. Besides, according to William Dafoe, it’s in fact “better than the first”. We can only hope and see for ourselves when it comes along.
Besides, what’s really so bad with sequels? They can be done right, Pixar has proven that to us. To me, I’ve come to love the characters of a story more than the actual story itself. Sequels to me are a way of getting to see old friends again and gives their world a more infinite sense. Their story goes on even when you’re not watching it, even when the story isn’t all that great. I love that!
I can understand this mindset since the audience doesn’t want to see the company pop out a sequel for the sake of raking in profits, they a movie that is able to live up to its predecessor.
I personally don’t have that much of a problem with the Star Wars prequels for example. Planes however…
It’s not going to be a prequel!? Yes! I kind of assumed, since Nemo’s voice actor is way too old now to play him, but I guess they’ll just replace him or something (poor guy). I feel slightly (slightly) better now, though apparently it still goes into her past, so I guess painfully generic backstories are still a possibility.
Gotta say, it’s kind of shocking to see how much negativity there was back during the initial announcement. I kind of got the impression this forum was generally positive and I was just really negative. Feels kind of good to see other people were worried and I wasn’t alone on that.
I can understand the backlash. With a sequel like Cars 2, fans fear that Pixar will start to cash-in on their most successful franchises in order to make more money. While some may have liked Cars 2, the “majority” felt that it wasn’t needed to continue the franchise…and I actually agree with them.
Their worry is that Finding Dory might end up the same way unless Pixar can go the Toy Story 2 route and deliver a story that is able to triumph the original.
I understand it, too. I am definitely a part of the “Does not want Pixar sequels” group (aside from Cars 2, I really disliked MU, as well). I just didn’t think I’d see so much negativity in this forum, which seemed to be generally positive, even on polarizing subjects.
I hope this movie will work, Dory is created as a side character just like Mater. Everything the side character did was created to support the movie, the jokes were on time but not too much. When i watched Cars 2 it was too much Mater for me, just like Jack Sparrow in Pirate of the Caribbean 4 who was also created as a side character. I hope they will find a good balance between Dory and the other characters.