“To further clarify, characters from say Rio, Toy Story 3, Despicable Me and Kung Fu Panda look and act ‘childish’ in the sense that they have bright colour palettes and are prone to exaggerated movements. Characters from say, Akira, Rango, Legend of the Guardians, and Secret of the N.I.M.H. are more reserved and ‘matured’ in the way they act and look.”
That’s the silliest thing I’ve ever read. Especially in regards to that Owl movie and the juvenile rango. Toy Story is far more mature in it’s themes and acting than any of the so called “mature” films you mention. Same goes for Toy Story 2 & 3, and Ratatouille, and Wall-e and Finding Nemo. Only those had great stories and great storytelling as well.
He was mainly referring to the way that they are designed and how they move, not the overall themes, and in that case he has a point. Just look at, say, the bathroom scene in TS3. Very exaggerated expressions and movements that would look out of place in the other movies he listed, although that’s not to say that the others don’t have intimate moments. No need to get personal about it.
Wow, looks good. This will really spark my interest up much more than Cars 2, which is not creating alot of interest to me, even though I liked the first one
Please read my post again. It appears you have misunderstood it. For the record, I think Rango is not a very ‘kid-friendly’ movie, and the ‘Owl movie’ has a proper name. And calling someone’s opinion “silly” isn’t very matured, bud.
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Thanks for the clarification Bryko, that’s exactly what I meant. To anyone else who’s misinterpreted me, just compare the character animation from Toy Story with say, Grave of the Fireflies. The former feels like a ‘cartoon’ (although like Bryko said, there are more intimate and ‘grown-up’ pensive moments) while the latter feels like a live-action movie. Once again, I’m speaking with respect to the character design and the animation, not the themes.
Wow, they’re really pulling out all the stops here!
Anyway, great observation on the figure in the first picture, I didn’t notice it! I think it looks like a giant owl, but then again it could be a wombat or something.
I wonder whether the title 'Brave ’ is an adjective like ‘Tangled’, or a noun like ‘Mulan’ (in the sense that the heroine’s nickname will become ‘Brave’ by the end of the movie or something).
rango was made for 7 year olds in mind. There’s nothing “adult” about it–it’s one of the most purile, juvenile and unimaginative cartoons ever made. And that owl movie was even worse than sucker punch or watchman (both awful things). Almost makes that childish pablum secret of nimh palatable. Almost.
and rango was ugly.
The Toy Story movies deal with abandonment, death, and much more mature, adult issues, and handle them in far more adult and imaginative ways. Actually, MOST of Pixar’s films do this. Only Cars and maybe A Bug’s Life were made more for kids in mind.
[quote:2yh8t9f0]rango was made for 7 year olds in mind. There’s nothing "adult" about it–it’s one of the most purile, juvenile and unimaginative cartoons ever made. And that owl movie was even worse than sucker punch or watchman (both awful things). Almost makes that childish pablum secret of nimh palatable. Almost.
and rango was ugly.[/quote:2yh8t9f0]
Aside from the fact that your criticisms are from constructive, employ a lot of hyperbole ("most", "ever made", etc.) and have no explanation whatsoever (which scenes are juvenile, what exactly do you mean by worse, why do you say such and such is like pablum, etc.), I’m sure that you’d be surprising a lot of members here when you say things like Secret of the NIMH is "childish" or, that Rango is "purile".
A snake with a gun on it’s tail? A shallow plot and characters that makes saturday morning cartoons look deep? Bats with machine guns? A bird with an arrow through it’s eye? Yeah–real mature. A world that never makes sense (real sized water bottles, but rodent sized cigarettes, guns, and glasses? )
No, it’s a very childish, juvenile film all the way around.
rango is akin to elementary school boys picking boogers and wiping them on each other. Real “mature.”
I don’t see a single thing “juvenile” about any of the “points” you mentioned. It’s a fantasy - does it even matter if the water bottles are large, or is snakes have guns on their tails? It didn’t seem like it was being childish or thrown together. I felt a lot of imagination going on in the movie. How are the characters shallow? And I don’t recall ever seeing a Saturday morning kid’s cartoon this deep…I’m baffled.
But, alas, I think we’re derailing the thread. If you want to talk about it more, it would probably be best to post it in the Rango thread on the Other Animation board.
I could do this for Toy Story too. A metrosexual doll? A dance sequence to Le Freak? A 30 minute Spanish Buzz segment? Yeah–real mature. So, you’re not proving anything. And once again, TDIT was referring to art style in the first place, not the story itself.
