How to Train Your Dragon

My video store only had the DVD copy with no BoneKnapper.

Is that a short film? I don’t get what it is. :confused:

Hooray LCE! I’m so glad to hear it. I thought he’d be the type to, so this was far too amusing to see how that plays out in his character, and even more so the reactions of the kids. [spoil]“…It’s sad when they get old.”[/spoil]

It’s like a short film, less than 20 minutes. It’s just a new adventure put together for the release of the DVD. Much like Secrets of the Furious Five. But better.

Like I said, if this is anything like what the TV show will include I am that much more curious and even excited to see what stories they come up with and how they keep up the comedy. They had no problem doing it here. With Kung Fu Panda I really had to force myself to sit through SotF5. What made it even less enjoyable than everything else I didn’t like about it was the lack of returning voice actors. The original cast is in LotBD. To quote Fishleggs, It’s AWESOME!

Watched LotB. It was pretty good. Better than I expected (especially after seeing all the negative comments). It wasn’t funny but it was pretty entertaining. I love the random hammerhead creatures xD

Well, I got my 2-DVD pack (for some reason, my local Borders had them in early - they wouldn’t even scan through, but I resisted the urge to tell the assistant that it was probably illegal to sell them), and overall, it looks like a decent package. Regarding Legend of the Bone Knapper, it really feels rushed, for the following reasons:

  1. The way John Powell’s score is just forced in. Only a few bits seem to fit, though one of them is utterly, epically hilarious.

  2. The voice actors sound like they didn’t give a damn. Oh, it’s definitely the same people, but they lack the passion they seemed to have in the original film.

  3. Most of the animation is lackluster at best. Often the characters don’t seem to be floating rather than actually standing, running, etc. in a location.

I understand that this is obviously a significantly smaller production than the feature film, but that’s really no excuse. Pixar have done great work with their short films, whether original (Night and Day was fantastic) or based in an established universe (BURN-E, Jack-Jack Attack, etc. have all been great), even though there’s no obvious direct source of profit for them, and Warner Brothers’ recent Looney Tunes shorts have supposedly been very entertaining as well. Dreamworks just seems to have no idea how to make short films.

What’s worse than the rushed aspect is the near-total lack of the other dragons. Frankly, as amusing as the human characters are, I doubt I’m alone when I say that I didn’t watch the original film so many times for them. It’s also utterly stupid on the part of the main characters not to bring the dragons with them. “We’re going off to parts unknown in a rather run-down old boat to possibly find an incredibly deadly creature… and we’re not going to bring our deadly and very mobile friends along with us.” I really hope this isn’t a sign of what’s to come in the TV series. I want more Toothless!

Rant over.

I was about to kill you because I thought you were talking about the movie itself. :laughing: I agree with you that the pacing is terrible and John Powell’s score was just… no. And the animation. Did you see the fire when the [spoil]Boneknapper breathed out fire when they first encountered it?[/spoil] That was quite laughable.

But I have to disagree with you on the voice actors. I thought all of them did a fine job. Jay and Craig were pretty good. Jay sounded and acted like the original Hiccup (with the wit and all that. [spoil]And he saved the day. Yayyy Hiccup! [/spoil] ) and Craig was just being Craig Ferguson. TJ Miller and Jonah Hill were pretty okay too. Astrid and Stoick hardly said anything so…

cough And I do watch the movie again and again because of the humans. In particular, Hiccup and Stoick. I love their father/son relationship. It’s the only one father/son I bought since Finding Nemo.

BTW, I just realised that the Boneknapper was in the Dragons Manual. So how can it be in the Dragons Manual if it’s considered only a “legend”?

Oh_Andy, convenience. It happens. ><

Voice actors were fine, the performances were so brief but I didn’t mind their performance as a whole no matter how few lines they all had. Astrid hardly said anyway from ad-libbing with everyone else. But that’s her character so whatever.

Rushed, fine, but the pace didn’t bug me. Sorry you didn’t like it so much nintendofreakgcn :[ The only thing I agree with is the score which everyone else already mentioned too.

As for the focus on the vikings; I think I just now realized that’s what I liked most. It reminds me of how after Lilo and Stitch came out everything else was so focused on Stitch and without Stitch there was no story, though I don’t blame them since he was what fueled the fandom most. But Toothless is far from my favorite character in this franchise because the other characters are so great too. I know that 90% of the fans worship the character, but it was nice to see they’re not relaying on him for positive reactions and they felt confident enough to do a story about Gobber and the teens.

This is one short film. Toothless will surely be around for the series, though everyone else needs some spotlight too…

Well… Of course with the movie, Toothless was something they relied on, because Toothless was Hiccup’s key to realizing how dragons really were. Toothless was like the doorway to dragon tolerance through the movie. Of course you become reliant on him, because the plot is based around him. :wink:

What I mean is he has the biggest fan base but that’s no reason to refuse the other characters screen time, plots, and growth. :smiley:

Something that’s not uncommon, examples in last post, for a film to be afraid to take focus off a character who’s cuteness and of course all around epicness as well because they think people will stop watching.

Oh, I don’t deny that some people do watch HTTYD for the humans. But let’s be frank - the relationship between Hiccup and Stoick, when removed from the unique aspect of the dragons, is a cliche (not a bad one), seen all over fiction, including most “boy and his x” stories I’ve seen/read/whatever (okay, in most of those it seems to be an absent father and a distant mother, but it’s the same basic idea). The same goes for the teenagers, who are ripped from basically every school-based comedy ever. It’s only when you put those characters into a world of dragons that the story becomes at all unique. That’s the basic story problem with Legend of the Boneknapper - it doesn’t feel like it’s in this world where all sorts of bizarre dragons are flying around all the time, just the one.

More comments later.

It must just not be appealing to those who like the movie for the Dragons. For me my favorite part of the movie is Hiccup, Snotlout and Gobber. And then I like Toothless as much as the other vikings. So people who aren’t so focused on the dragons will probably like Boneknapper and those very dedicated to their favoritism of Toothless won’t. It makes sense. But the what’s nice to keep in mind is I highly doubt the series will be lacking as much Toothless as the new mini film did. I look forward to it! Positive thinkiiiinnng :smiley:

Well, if you’re going to base a movie around a character in the first place, you might as well make it AWESOME. :stuck_out_tongue:

And Toothless is already a great character in such a way that it is a very original design for a dragon. Check out Google Images and you will see typical ‘your average dragon’ images, but Toothless is nothing like those. :slight_smile:

So yeah… How To Train Your Dragon will always mainly be about Dragons. And Toothless is the dragon of the main character. 1+1=2 :stuck_out_tongue:

@nintendofreakgcn: I’d rather have a nicely inspired plot than a horrible original one. :wink: This one works in every way, so I don’t care if it’s cliche. Nobody should.

It’s interesting to read through people’s opinions of Boneknapper. I’ll probably check it out after my assignments are over as something to look forward to, but I’m a bit concerned about the criticisms regarding the lack of Toothless screentime and the soundtrack.

Hope it exceeds my expectations much like the feature film did. I’m looking forward to seeing more footage of the Boneknapper than what was revealed in the trailer and the 2D animated sequences. :slight_smile:

Quite tempted to quote a Barney Stinson catchphrase actually…

Yeah that’s fine, but I’m glad this isn’t another Stitch situation and everyone else is getting some plot and story lines and their own spotlight. They deserve it too.

[spoil]…including Phil the sheep[/spoil] :3

TDIT, is that what your avatar is? :laughing: Is that something from Boneknapper?

IV: Yup, it’s a screenshot from the trailer. I haven’t seen the short yet, so I don’t know what happens to [spoil]Phil the sheep[/spoil]. :slight_smile:

That [spoil]sheep’s named Phil?[/spoil]

Okay, I agree, that’s funny. xD

Ah, okay. I don’t think I’ll watch it, because I don’t have time, and don’t want to be disappointed.

I’m sure you can spare 20 minutes? :stuck_out_tongue:

H0onestly, I’m makng up excuses to not watch it. If it’s really so low compared to the quality of the original film, I don’t want to sccar myself with it. Like the Lilo and Stitch sequels, it would lower my enjoyment of the film. :frowning:

But it’s not a sequel and shouldn’t be compared to the quality of the original. You’re expecting quite a lot D: I think if you lower your standards and try to sit back and just watch it for a quick 15 minutes of simple enjoyment you would like it!