I’m sorry, but I think some of these topics are inappropriate for some of our younger viewers, as well as the ones who don’t like to think about these tricky subjects. I mean, I have nothing against Homosexuals, or their marriage, but I do think it’s wrong. We all should have the choice, but you shouldn’t be offended if some people disagree with your opinions. They are OPINIONS, after all. My uncle is gay, BTW, so in no way do I wish to offend anyone. Do these immature, controversial topics offend you?? They make me angry.
If you don’t want to form an opinion on a ‘tricky subject’, then just don’t post in these topics. There’s nothing unsuitable for children in the existance of gay people.
Is that not a MASSIVE contradiction right there?
Right, so if somebody says all black people are lesser to white people, then we should respect their opinion?
Stop saying immature. When we’re debating actual proper issues within the world we live in, though logic and reasoning, it isn’t immature at all. It’s only when people who aren’t mature enough to handle such topics start attempting to debate when it gets immature.
You know, one thing that irks me more than anything else is those people who talk all condescending-like to people who disagree with them. You may have an opinion, but enough with the cocky attitude and smart talk. Please. It gets old pretty fast.
I simply do not take part in those discussions, since they also have a tendency to make me angry (mostly because people with said-stated attitudes seem to run rampant in them there parts ). It’s easier to stay away from something that has the potential of making you angry, since that could lead to flaming and such which, in turn, could have you banned. If you don’t agree, I guess the best option is not to take part in the discussions, as has already been stated.
I just get angered by people who take part in discussions but seem incapable of backing up their opinions with actual proper reasoning. I expect that in an intelligent discussion, but when it doesn’t happen ofcourse I’m going to ‘sound clever’. And people who disagree with me have a ‘wrong’ opinion, just like a racist person would have a wrong opinion.
Of course you’re going to think that someone with a polar opposite opinion is wrong. That’s just how life works. And I know from experience that no matter how many times you grind your opinions into other people’s faces, and no matter how “intelligent” you think you sound, your message won’t get through to people who actually stick to their convictions And it’s also nice to know you have such a positive outlook on life and other people.
I’m just not big on these threads anyway. You can go spout your opinions all you want, but I’ll keep mine to myself and not try to start a fight.
So if I say all black people should die, then you’d sympathize with people who agree with me? That what you’re saying?
By ‘wrong’ opinion, I don’t just mean people who disagree with me. Opinions can’t be wrong ('cause they’re opinions) but there are those opinions which are unacceptable in the modern day - racism being one such opinion. It doesn’t matter whether I agree with the person or not, they still have a socially wrong opinion. Hatred of gay people is, in the modern day, a socially wrong opinion.
Oh yeah, sure. That’s exactly what I said. Please don’t go putting words in people’s mouths or twisting them entirely, thanks.
I never said I was racist. I am not racist, thanks for that, too. And don’t say “I never called you racist” because in every single post directed towards me, it was certainly implied.
By whose standard is it a socially “wrong” opinion? Because it doesn’t fit in with “modern times”? Because my viewpoints are “old-fashioned”? Call it what you will, I don’t back off where I stand, and neither will you so I’m not going to throw up my opinion all over you to prove a point.
And for the record, most of us do not hate gay people. And I do not believe nor take part in all this “hate the lifestyle, hate the person” crap, thank you much.
Well that is basically what you imply. That somebody’s opinion should be respected regardless. So by that reasoning, people who are racist should still have their opinions respected.
No, I actually didn’t call you racist at all! I’m saying there is a certain similarity between racism and hatred of gay people - I’m not saying you’re racist at all. I’m just trying to point out the similarity, that’s all.
Well yes. Just like plenty of older people still hold their racist views (it’s an analogy, not a jab at you).
Thank you. It really bothers me, personally.
little_chef_eva09, I think you’re agreeing with me that it’s slightly irritating. Did I misusterstand you? Either way, thanks for the posts. My posts usually get ignored more than this.
Tilius, I didn’t mean to offend you, my point is that these posts are irrelevant to Pixar Planet and that it is immature to post things that would offend our younger, or less political members.
I agree, little chef. A person’s a person no matter what lifestyle they live. We may not necessarily agree with it, but that doesn’t mean we think any less of the person.
The issue I see is: Why does anyone need to agree with something people can’t/didn’t choose? It’s something you brush off and get over, I guarantee we all have bigger things to worry about. This is offensive to both sides, I agree, because it hasn’t been handled well. Unfortunately.
I am with little_chef_eva09 and Hannahmation in that disagreeing with an individual’s opinion does not mean that one should hate the person flat out. That’s ridiculous. It’s all a matter of choice as to whether or not an individual decides to change their viewpoint on a matter or keep it solidifed. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and, no matter what anyone tries to do, you can never force someone else to see the world from your perspective.
That being said, I believe that such topics of discussion are better left in the dark, because, sad to say, debate on such matters will only result in strife.
Tilius: I understand what IncredigirlVirginia stands. As a matter of fact, I agree with her. personally, I do not believe in homosexuality. I’m not gonna go into any detail, no would I want to start another debat. I’m just getting my point across. However, I have openly gay friends. And if people are happy together, not only will I not interfere with their happiness, but I will also support them. I’m not to decide how people live their lives. I might disagree with them, but I won’t change them.
There is a fine line between disagreement and arrogance. Everyone has their own opinion about other people. It’s one thing to say “I think ___ is wrong, or ___ is a sin.” We all have our own opinions. I just want people to be mindful about what they say because sometimes, your words can hurt others.
Once again, I don’t get what there’s to agree with. No one’s asking you to approve of anyone else’s life. That’s not anyone’s business as far as I’m concerned. I think this all boils down to, “am I comfortable denying rights”, not whether you “believe” in homosexuality or not, as if not believeing in it will make it go away. Just thought I’d put that out there. Also not trying to start a debate, just making sure everyone knows why I think it’s not worth debating on here.
What I meant to say is that topics like this tend to get “overheated” when they arise, so if people aren’t going to handle things maturely then perhaps it would be better if they were not spoken about at all on websites like this. If such a thread was brought up on a site where such debate screamed to be started or was asked for specifically, then that’s a different matter. However, in a family-friendly place like this, I think that these topics are better left alone. I don’t mean to ignore anyone or disrespected others’ opinions; I just feel that this type of debate isn’t… entirely appropriate on this site.
Immature?..How? They aren’t immature just because you don’t want them to be here. Being able to talk about these serious topics while being civil to each other despite opposing opinions is much more mature.Unfortunately, that often doesn’t happen due to the onslaught of people who confuse “strong debate arguments” with “slinging random insults with no substance.”
I don’t go on debate boards mostly because of, like others have said, they make me mad. I have a short temper, especially when it comes to politics. Ugh, that time around Obama’s election was a nightmare here. But I digress.
My best guy friend is gay. I’m pretty indifferent towards gay marriage, do it if you want to. Even my church doesn’t really care; we even have a gay bishop. just came back from a youth group retreat where my friends and I spent the entire time dancing around the campsite singing “If You Were Gay” from Avenue Q at the top of our lungs
Anyway, I don’t care if those topics are here. Any person worth their socks would be able to bid themselves away from a topic they don’t like. Plus, if our “younger viewers” can’t do that (And given the fact that unless you send a signed form to the site you can’t even sign up if you’re under 13 (if you don’t lie about your age), we probably don’t have that many anyway) they probably shouldn’t be on the internet in the first place, at least not a site with open conversation among different age groups. I signed up when I was 12 (and yes, I did lie about my age, but I’m 14 now), and I managed to take part in the debate boards (including gay marriage) just fine. If you don’t want to, stay away from them. As simple as that. If you ARE 12, you have maybe a year at best before these topics become VERY relevant in your life (my BGF came out when he was 13) so you better get used to hearing about them.
). It’s easier to stay away from something that has the potential of making you angry, since that could lead to flaming and such which, in turn, could have you banned. If you don’t agree, I guess the best option is not to take part in the discussions, as has already been stated.
But I digress.