Monsters Inc 2 : Randall's role/thoughts?

You have very interesting ideas there, TOP. BTW, welcome to the forums!!

Would you like to introduce yourself to everyone?
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Thats a good point TheonePistol. welcome to the forums.

While Randall wouldn’t hold a grudge against Boo (One thing in the comics they actually got right, as THAT “randall” mentioned nothing about Boo at all), if Waternoose saw the opportunity, he would use it. And given how he’s “played with hearts” before, it would almost be a sick pleasure to him.

Makes one wonder if Waternoose had a family. Well of course, he had a father and grandfather, a mother supposedly. But I meant him immediately. A son? Perhaps.
Sorry, that was just a thought.

But the relationship between Randall and Boo would be an interesting venture. There are a…Ahem…few fanfics that looks to Mental…exceed this…relationship to a memorable level.

Although I personally don’t think he’d grown OVERLY guilty (though still guilty for her being involved), he’d probably start to feel it if he got near her. Needless to say it’s a stabbing feeling, but one he’d get over if she was in trouble.
Of course this would…conflict with Sullivan’s own “Fatherly role” as it were.

thank you everyone for welcoming me, and liking my idea! :smiley:

No problem TheOnePistol. We are happy to have you as a member here.

As much as I loved Randall, I’d like to see a new bad guy. However, I would like him to make a small apperence somehow.

Yeah there ARE more options to vil…antagonists.
Waternoose? Maybe. Though James Coburn (I HOPE I got that right) will always be remembered for the role…who knows they might find a replacement.
But for most sakes lets just hope Waternoose is out of the picture and in jail. Then again who knows, he might get out scott free with his gallery of lawyers and cash.

Roz might actually be one. Though she IS in the C.D.A., as Mental would agree there isn’t something “quite right” about them. Add in the fact of Humans being toxic being brought into question, and the fact they covered up Randall’s exile, and you got yourself an intersting group.

Scare activists? With Laugh Energy crapping up, several in the Scare industry won’t be happy of the change for both moral and traditional views.

Yup, it’s true. I do like the idea of the CDA being in some sort of antagonistic role against Sulley if only because it would be pretty interesting and would make sense given the fact they are at the very least pretty shady from their actions in the last movie. While Sulley is in their good books for now, I don’t think it would take much for them to turn against him if they thought he was doing something which was a threat to Monster world security (Boo contact anyone? They would NOT be happy about that. They’d have to weigh out their objectives though if they found out and decide what is best. Sulley-and Mike- have disobeyed them and made contact with her. This cannot end well if they can’t be convinced this is not something which could reveal the monster world to humans like say through her parents or herself when she got older.)

I don’t see them as pure evil myself but a seriously dark shade of grey. They probably won’t save you if it takes too much effort and if it doesn’t help themselves (public opinion) or Monster world security in some way, but likewise they probably wouldn’t go out of their way to hurt you unless you went against this or in keeping to the act of toxicity. Monster world security is what they’re mostly about and they don’t care much for individuals unless it goes towards that or is in some way indirectly related or they can benefit from this. They feel they have to keep both themselves as an organisation and the monster world safe. While in some cases you do have to look at the big picture, I do think they take it too far.

Well intentioned extremists with a few real bad apples in the mix really.

There’s just something not quite right about them which would be interesting to explore. Even if they aren’t the main antagonists and are simply a major complication in the process rather than a help. Or something which jump starts Sulley’s own personal story in the sequel. They could certainly be a threat to any continued contact with Boo.

…James Coburn is dead? :open_mouth:

Anyway, I wouldn’t mind if Randall comes back, it would just seem uninspired and uncreative.

Yeah, he died. I only learned it last week though.

How can you tell? Did someone telly ou this, or do you have a link?

My mom told me. And it says he died in 2002 on IMDb:
imdb.com/name/nm0000336/

Oh, wow. I thought “he” was Randall. :laughing:

RIP James Coburn

I really liked him in MI and Snow Dogs…sad day. :frowning:

Yeah, I felt that same surprise when I had learned of Slinky’s voice actor being dead which I didn’t know about until I saw that announcement in relation to TS3.

Yeah, I always feel bad or stupid when I don’t know about celebrity deaths because I’m such a movie buff. :blush:

Remember Ego from Ratatouille, he started off bad and creepy (“Grim Eater”, his office shaped like a coffin) but he was redeemed at the end, so PIXAR have done redeemable characters. Now ontopic, I love the idea of Randall being redeemed of course i’d like to see him fight with Sulley while telling him what he went through. :smiley: I often think Randall has a very sarcastic side to him along with a short temper :wink:. I wonder if he’ll come across Fungus at some point. Also do you think Fungus misses him? :confused:

I completely doubt it. Randall treated him like dirt and always lost his temper with him, even when he tried to do things right. I also think Fungus didn’t want to be part of his evil plots, but he didn’t have a choice. I’m pretty sure he’s happier without Randall on his back all the same, and I think this quote speaks for itself:

“If I don’t see a door in my station in 5 seconds, I will personally put you through the shredder!”

I guess you’ve never gotten to watch “The Dog Whisperer”, have you? I don’t know if the National Geographic Channel airs in Great Britain or not, but from the perspective of both a teacher AND a dog owner/trainer, I can tell you who was in complete control in that work relationship between Randall and Fungus, and it WASN’T RANDALL. Anyone who works with animals or children will tell you that if an animal or child can make you turn red as a beet and yell and scream and make empty, useless threats, it’s gained total control over you. If a kid in my classroom makes me “lose it” in front of the entire class, that kid has just gained control of the entire classroom and I’ve lost. Fungus obviously knew this and played it to the max. Go watch that scene where Randall is wetting down his fronds in the men’s room at the sink, but this time, focus on FUNGUS as he enters, with his newspaper under his arm. Notice that he’s got this big, devilish grin on his face and actually has to put his hand up over his mouth to conceal a snicker as he walks in on Randall, because he knows fully well that Randall is stressed out to the max, and he knows exactly how Randall is going to react to him suddenly barging in and announcing loud enough for all the world to hear that the kid in the newspaper is the same one Randall is looking for, and of course, Randall does exactly what Fungus expects-he nearly has a heart attack and then gets completely bent out of shape! Fungus WANTS him to yell and get angry because that means that Fungus is the one in control, and the wimpy terrified act is just that-an ACT. On the Scare Floor, Fungus does NOT try to do his job correctly, but wastes time yammering on pointlessly, because he knows that it gets under Randall’s skin when he does that. He does the same thing when they’re working on the Scream Extractor, and has to be constantly told to do his job instead of just doing it, and for someone already under as much pressure and stress as Randall was, this was intolerable, but I doubt it was accidental. I have to wonder if Fungus has found someone else to annoy and irritate.

pitbulllady

I wouldn’t neccessarily say Ego was bad, creepy, probably. And maybe a touch of emotionlessness considering his review had inadvertibly caused the death of a beloved chef, but then again we SEE a bit of Ego’s past. A glimpse, but enough to interpret that he was a kid that was picked on (coming home from whatever public function, crying).
I do picture that sort of fight, with Randall lashing out, voicing every hardship and degrading event he had to go through (possibly some that aren’t even related to the moment) with Sullivan backing off. Of course the flipside depends on if Sullivan kicks into “protector mode” when it comes to say, Boo for instance, and he finds himself rather agressive.

I also doubt Fungus misses him, but not for the same reasons.
Like pitbulllady says, there are people who enjoy getting yelled at for the personal pleasure that they have the ability to cause it, and in this circumstance, Fungus does it rather effortlessly.
As for Fungus being brought in, who knows exactly how that got started. Him being dragged in is possible, but then again there are other possibilites as well.
And part of Randall is he has his idle threats. As much as Fungus might annoy him, he wouldn’t take to doing such a thing literally. Aside from yelling, I think Randall doesn’t so much as whack Fungus upside the head even once.

@pitbullady, I knew it was only a matter of time till you came here and defended Randall.