I don’t think that Fungus would miss Randall- he seemed pretty content at the end of the movie as a laugh-collector.
Even though Fungus was every bit as guilty as Randall was in regards to the plot to bring in human children to test in the Scream Extractor, which made no sense at all for Fungus to not only go free, but get rewarded. But then, Fungus wasn’t covered in scaly skin, was he?
pitbulllady
Intresting, pitbulllady, I never noticed that about Fungus before, so he’s not just a nervous wreak he actully enjoys annoying Randall? Jerk. 
I want to put him through the shredder now. 
Also see when Fungus said to Mike the extractor was Randall’s ‘evil plot’ was he just lying to cover up it was Waternoose’s plan or did he not know?
We’ve debated Fungus’s knowledge of just who was in charge of the “evil plot” over on the Boggs Board quite a few times, and to be honest, I don’t know myself just how much he knew, or when he was brought into the project. I really get the impression, though, that up until the point in the movie where Boo is about to be tested in the machine, Fungus had no clue that Waternoose, NOT Randall, was the one in charge and calling the shots. More than likely, Waternoose had made it clear to Randall that IF he brought Fungus in to help him, given the time constraints, he was not to breathe a word about Waternoose’s involvement. It was already pretty clear that Waternoose had set things up so that in the event that something went wrong and someone caught onto the existance of the machine, Randall was to take the blame, 100%, and bear the brunt of the consequences, while Waternoose came out smelling like a rose. You can see Waternoose’s absolute shock in that scene where he calls down Boo’s door for the CDA, telling them that the criminal responsible will be on/in it, and he obviously expected it to be Randall, NOT Mike and Sulley, meaning that he was already planning to turn Randall over to the CDA and disavow any association with him or the plot to bring in human children, and of course, it would have been the word of a reptilian Scarer vs. that of a much-respected…and very rich and powerful…CEO.
pitbulllady
First off, while I DO think that Waternoose expected Randall to be the one coming in…he was willing to accept any eventuality. If it was Randall, simple, have him take all the blame. If it was Sullivan and wazowski, let them take all the blame.
Though it is interesting if Waternoose didn’t know about what happened to Randall. In his mind he might think he “skipped out, aiming to come back so Waternoose went to jail with whatever evidence he had”.
Regardless of the thinking, he aimed for Randall to take the fall if needs arose.
As for Fungus…
The “evil plot” was mainly just his own phrasing just to explain things. And as seen, he doesn’t so much like helping Randall’s self-esteem, so it’s not above him to say things behind his back. Plus, he’s probably aware Wazowski dislikes Randall, so he kinda had an intellectual equal in that regard. (also notice how abnormally calm he is).
For bringing him in, one theory I liked was that Fungus stumbled on to things, and Waternoose was somehow aware. Randall, however, didn’t want a dead body on his conscience so had Fungus be brought in as an “extra hand” sorta speak. Unfortunately he probably wasn’t much help.
Of course, then again, Waternoose probably planned this for awhile, so who knows, maybe he partnered Fungus with Randall for a reason…
If Randall would return in the sequel, I think he’d have a thirst of revenge at first and gradully drops it. Also if Boo will be back (perhaps older) I’d like to see some interaction with her former scarer and maybe have a bond by the end. 
I think it would take some time for Randall to forgive Sulley and Mike for what they did. I wonder how Randall will react when he finds out laughter is the power source. 
Yeah, that’s an interesting point, MI2. I don’t think he’d take it very well, to be honest. He seemed to love Scaring almost to the point of obsession, so to return to the Monster World to find that everything has changed- and not only that, but because of the two Monsters he dislikes the most!- would have a pretty severe impact on him, I think. I can imagine it taking a very long while for it to really sink in that life in the Monster World as he knew it is gone forever.
Not neccessarily. As I’ve said many times before, and people seem to forget, part of Monster society was formed on Scareing. Hence why it seems to be so popular. The Scare Industry is mass of jobs and careers that have been around and growing for centuries. It’s become essentially a traditional factor in energy collection.
A theory I have is that Sullivan is running the forefront for this change. In such, he is in charge of the possibilities of the new energy source, since, apparently, it was his idea.
In a single year, the monster world couldn’t radically change every scream-related factor. Both technically and morally.
There should still be Scarering around, and not many monsters are going to be happy that they’re making humans LAUGH instead of scream, because it’s been around so long. Again, technically and morally.
I think ‘culturally’ might be a better word than ‘morally’ myself in terms of public opinion Nexas (it’s not exactly the same thing) but it is an idea to consider. Of course we haven’t SEEN any opposition in the movie, but considering the history, it is a possibility.
In a year, there would only be so much that will have happened in any case. They did have to make new canisters as we can plainly see in the epilogue for instance. Me thinks things like the scream canisters EXPLODING could have happened at one stage maybe. In it’s initial stages.
So in the very very beginning stages (and they’re barely out of that at all if it’s only a year), that could be stated as another point by the opposition in their list if they’re a particulary large and/or vocal group.
‘It’s not safe!’ etc. Even disregarding the fact that comedians have to stay out longer with kids (making a kid laugh? More difficult than getting them scared. You also can reuse an old scare routine on the same kid for a while. Can’t use the same joke. And staying out longer= more chance of getting caught by a parent. Plus even if it is stated that human children aren’t toxic, the public are not going to believe that for a while anyway… heck the comedians will take a few years to do so themselves. So that’s a public issue with keeping a monster in the same room as a human kid for longer.)
Then of course there are the people who fear for their jobs. (The scarers who have been doing it for a while now, and those in the future who may be left out to dry when the full switch probably occurs). Plus the very fact Mike apparently can get his quota out of one kid?
That means less comedians are going to be needed then there are scarers. They could really down size (and up profits) or if they don’t want to do that perhaps provide energy to a wider area eventually- heck maybe even possible areas which wouldn’t otherwise have that energy source! You know if everything switches. (Which it probably will, or will be going in that direction).
There would be winners and losers on the basis of this advancement of course. Just like with almost any advancement.
In the LONG-TERM the stakes are rather high. Energy affects the entire economy- cheaper/more available energy means other things in the economy are affected. Things become more afforable in a sense eventually and business booms for a little while, before it’s stabilised and becomes the norm. Other advancements also could be possible with their government not having to worry about energy quite so much. (Of course where they advance…-glances at the CDA- is anyones guess, could be great in some areas for the public but not so much in others. After all, depends on who’s running the place!)
Of course in the long-term, the possibility of getting caught goes up. Even if they go to less kids, they’re staying there longer with each one, which is a risk factor.
The CDA… I’m, not sure they’ve thought of this possibility, but no doubt they’ll be keeping an eye on them in any case. Perhaps they ponder over the idea that maybe less visits overall might act as a buffer to this risk.
The CDA are very ‘big picture’ and nearly all about monster world security. They don’t care about how it comes to be there. As long as, overall, the monster world is safe from humans, they’re happy.
I’m just not sure how much they’d LIKE the idea of humans not being toxic being spread around. After all, that would mean the possibility exposing the world to adults goes up, and while I believe -they- (the CDA) don’t believe the human kids are toxic overall, I do suspect they do have a true reason for keeping things hushed up- unafraid monsters are probably curious monsters, and telling them that ‘That whole other world? You WON’T immediately die from toxicity if you stay in it too long!’ and them accepting it could result in interesting issues.
Like finding out humans are really equals for one (I think comedians are going to find that out REEEAAAL fast, after all they’ll probably be talking to some of them which they would not have done so before) and about their world in general.
That would have been just as cliche 
the whole friendship and love prevailing thing, in fact far more so. I like what they did with Lotso, it made him a much more genuine antagonist as well as a very sympathetic one. If he’d done that I would have face palmed at how corny it was considering how evil he was just moments earlier.
A really believable character arc has to happen over time. If an antagonist simply “turns around” instantly, and goes from one extreme of behavior to another within seconds, it seems forced and unrealistic. BUT, at the same time, I don’t see anything “cliche’d” about having an antagonist who does gradually change, especially if it’s due to the intervention of others. I’ve mentioned Lilo and Stitch several times with regards to this particular situation, and I’ve yet to hear of anyone “face-palming” or complaining about the character arcs in that movie. If there is anything that is “cliche’d” in so many of Pixar’s(and Disney’s)movies, it’s having a “bad guy” whom we are supposed to believe is just rotten to the core, completely and forever beyond any redemption, who just hates the “good guy” for no apparent reason, and who must therefore die some gruesome death.
pitbulllady
But it would hardly have been a gradual change, he was shown to have a nicer side yes, it’s what made him so sympathetic combined with his back story, but his dark side wouldn’t just go away magically just because the toys saved him. And Lotso was clearly not being evil just for the sake if being evil, he had loved and had his heart torn out by the one who he thought he was closer to than any other and he was taking his frustration out on the world, in a sense.
Different wording, same point.
An exploding scream canister is a possibility. And the event of such would lead to much concern if anybody got hurt by it. The designing of bigger canisters is a simple thing, albiet they recquire bigger bulk. However, one thing to take into consideration is if there is a need for recalibration for laugh energy. It might be very similiar to scream, but given how scream itself is converted into energy, can’t rule it out as being different (it DOES seem to be credited as being more powerful, so there’s an obvious differance right there).
Indeed. The danger factor increases. DESPITE humans not being toxic, there are many who still think it. And humans STILL are a danger.
I’ve said that myself before, about scarers being laid off and those aiming for a career in such losing years of work.
There’s also the possibility that a “connection” might for. Scare-wise, Scarers don’t relatively “connect” to who they scare. Comedians MIGHT. Afterall they’re staying longer and “getting to know what makes the kid laugh”.
The C.D.A., as one source we know suggests, might reform into a more police-esque task force. But again, the involvement in the laugh energy events will manipulate outcomes.
prods head Funny ain’t it Mental. It’s almost as if the Toxic Card was invented to PROTECT the monster world winks
Nexas, what if there are other Monsters, Inc factories in the Monster World? I think it would take a long time for word to get round that scream has changed to laughter. I don’t picture Randall making kids laugh not really his style, he’d probably continue scaring. 
It would be great if there was an option of scarer and comedian for new job applicants. I know if I were a monster I would do scaring rather than make a fool of myself 
, anyway, it would double the power source aswell wouldn’t it?
By the way like my signature?
While that is an interesting suggestion…
I believe Monsters Inc. is a stand-alone. Meaning it’s not a chain of power-companies. Reason why? Waternoose seems to be behind the desk at that factory. Now, I’m not sure how it works, but I can guess that since he isn’t in a more controlling…
Ok let me see if I can explain how this is thought out. Waternoose’s desire to keep Monsters Inc. alive is easily accomplished if he only had one major building to direct. While there may be “scream providers” around with the MI seal, the power collection may only be done at Monsters Inc.
Generally I think Monsters Inc. is simply the factory itself, and it’s vast refinery. There are probably other competing power companies, but Monsters Inc. seems to supply most of the power for Monstropolis. Of course note that every power company focusing on Scream is under the direction of Scare Co.
Phew that was hard to explain…now for something simpler…
Energy conversion takes allot of time, honestly. I mean there’s reassessment of equipment, re-calibration, distribution, re-training, etc. It would take years if total Laughter conversion was made. And with all the potential and current Scarers out there…it probably won’t happen.
Randall’s got a more adult-oriented comedy, but he himself CAN be childish, but in terms of making kids laugh, I’d doubt it.
He wouldn’t gleefully shove a pie in his face or slip on a bonnet and a diaper and do an impression, and in the end face the laughter on the floor on his return.
Doubling, not so much but yes, the fact that there IS a better energy source SHOULD mean options. If there IS better power, then more of the lesser shouldn’t be too bad, considering economically Scarers aren’t paid too well (aside from the Top Scarer).
Yes, nice sig by the way.
God bless us everyone, we’re a broken people living under loaded gun and it can’t be outfought, it can’t be outdone, it can’t be outmatched, it can’t be outrun. God save us everyone, will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns for the sins of our hands, the sins of our tongues, the sins of our fathers, the sins of our young…
Well, judging from your statement…guess burning inside the fires will happen, won’t it…honestly MI2, is causing a storm all one can do?
Princess_Darkness, what do you mean are you mad at me?
Sorry if I sound like I’m shouting. 
Only pointing out the obvious which to me shows that you believe EVERYTHING you’re told…if so then what I quoted to you would make perfect sense…
Sometimes people fail to notice things until it is pointed out to them, and then the shades come off and they can see things the way they really are. I don’t have to be “told” that Fungus wasn’t nearly as intimidated by Randall as he appeared on the surface. A half-century, more or less, of dealing with people has taught me that. Watch that scene I mentioned for yourself and explain that smirk and that hand-over-the-mouth, to conceal a snicker. Why does Fungus find it so amusing that Randall is going to have a near-heart attack? WHY would he put himself in such a position if he were genuinely afraid of Randall?
I make absolutely no apologies for pointing that out to people who have not noticed it before.
pitbulllady
It’s called a simple little chance at payback…trust me, if I had just a tiny chance to get just some tiny bit of payback at someone who had made me a nervous wreck, even if it were minimal, I would gladly take it as well…I do not see Fungus as a cold heartless being as you describe nor will I for unlike some, I choose to think and decide things on my own, I make those determinations on my own and those findings on my own, I do not like to be lectured or talked down to, those who do that find themselves talking to a wall for I just simply ignore them…if MI2 chooses to be so easily convinced then that is his business but the fact that he seemed to eager to agree makes him appear to be a follower and nothing more…it seems to me that it’s more out of wanting to please his fellow Randall fans in hope of acceptance than anything else…