Movies - both new and old

Hope you enjoy T2, TSS, probably going to make you cry almost as much as the last thirty minutes of Schindler’s List.

I watched a movie version of Animal Farm a while ago. Kind of good, a lot of differences, book’s still the best though.

When will there ever be a movie as good as the novel it was based on!?

I watched Metropolis recently. Oh god, where do I start…

That is the best silent film ever.

I don’t think that will ever happen, really. With novels, the writers are free to explore their writing space, while you have to place certain restrictions in a movie script, despite H-wood’s current devotion to best-selling novels (a result of their assumption that if the book sells, the movie based on it would definitely be a hit, too).

For example:
In a novel, when two or more characters make interactions with each other, the writer could just describe their thoughts and feelings at that time. In a film, however, the actors/actresses have to show us their miseries and joy, not tell us. In fact, Angels & Demons is probably one of the biggest victims of this factor.

Hence, a script has to be changed. You can’t just have Spider-Man telling us how emo he felt upon his uncle’s death for the whole hour and a half. Speaking of which, there’s also the other factor, the time constrain.

Nowadays, with Hollywood playing so safe that they give almost a hundred percent support to the cast working on a novel-based film, the film makers have more space to create a longer movie, so time is not a real problem. However, there’s always that certain sympathetic guy at the corner who was mocked, judged, and unfairly criticized.

Watchmen is one example. It would had been better to make it into a whole TV series rather than a film that had every aspect of the graphic novel crammed in a one hour and a half movie. Once you try and force everything in, the movie’s quality is, even more so than those given freedom and space, diminished in the confusion and chaos.

So, when will a movie be as good as the source novel? It’s a rare occurrence, but under the right team and a skilled director, such miraculous sights do appear, and they would probably not be one with a big title like Lord of the Rings (which seemed to have disappoint some fans of the novel). And that was directed by PETER JACKSON. If he can’t perform such miraculous act, I doubt anyone could.

Maybe Cameron. <_<"

I’ll tell you one: Blade Runner! :laughing: Dick was in awe when he saw a cut of the movie.

I’m a fan of The Lord of the Rings (novel and movie), and I thought some storylines were better handled in the movie. For example, one of my favourite changes was how they inserted Arwen in the story. As far as I know, Tolkien always wondered how to do that.

Mmm, Cameron… We’lll see…

Ugh. Even Cameron’s affected by the moviepocalypse… <_<"

Like the people said, Jamey, go back to those times when you were a master of the Sci-Fi genre! Another cyborg movie? I know you could had done better than that. :wink:

Ah, well, at least Avatar should be good.

Cameron can continue making movies if they:

  • Have amazing tecnology.
  • Have strong female characters.
  • Have some kind of disaster.
  • Have returning actors.
  • Have subaquatic scenes.
  • Have amazing creatures.

Avatar may cover five of these points :laughing:

You forgot “Have strong character developments that we could relate to, a human (or otherwise) journey in an emotional struggle against his/her inner self, trying to be righteous, just, selfless, etc.”

That’s the thing I’ve always liked about Cameron films, anyway. :slight_smile: And I wouldn’t really consider True Lies to exactly be a disaster film.

That movie, along with Titanic, showed that Cameron just can’t direct movies of other genres with the same amount of skill he applied in his other Sci-Fi movies. I believe he does know how to move a character through a journey of inner self, but the real problem lies in his execution when dealing with non-Sci-Fi films.

You’re right. In Titanic the amount of skill appeared when the disaster did anyway :laughing:

Sssh, I heard he wants to do a small drama film (in 3D and with subaquatic scenes, of course).

I was actually quite happy with the Watchmen movie. Although I guess you’re right, Dragon of Omnipotency.Though with A&D, did they really have to change the book’s “hassassin” into [spoil]Mr. What’s-his-face I’m killing religious leaders for a car instead of a vendetta against the Catholic church.[/spoil]

lol I’ve never read the novel or watched the movie, but Ron Howard is a great director in my view, so my assumption was that the film was like that because either because:

  1. The writers suck. David Koepp has a pretty decent track record with his involvement as a screenwriter in Jurassic Park and The Lost World: Jurassic Park , Mission: Impossible, as well as Panic Room; Akiva Goldsman, however, wrote Batman & Robin. 'Nuff said.

or
2. Hollywood demands for a change. This is more unlikely because, as I’ve said before, they’re pretty supportive of best-selling novels nowadays. However, one must not underestimate H-wood’s… what I would like to call, ‘paranoia delusion.’

Just saw Spirited Away and I was blown away…it is really an amazing treat. :smiley: I really enjoyed recognizing the voice of Meg from Hercules, Lilo from Lilo & Stitch, Zira from The Lion King II: Simba’s Pride (at least, I think it was her), and John Ratzenberger sure got a funny part in it. :laughing: (It was the English translation version).

Also, I watched The Tale of Desperaux. Really cute and enjoyable, however, I would’ve preferred they didn’t humanize them to wear clothes, and also I didn’t think it made sense to add [spoil]the Roman Empire style persecution in RatWorld. Sure it was funny, but then they added lights for that, which took away the whole purpose of Roscuro longing for light.[/spoil] :confused: I think that the dungeon should’ve been more true to the book [spoil]with more darker, creepier settings rather than just filthy. And Roscuro should’ve been living in the dungeon all his life in the first place. And what was with the guy made up of fruits and vegetabes? Sure, it was funny, but what was the point of adding that guy?[/spoil] Still, I liked the movie despite that I thought the book was better.

Spirited Away is AMAZING on all levels. Next, watch Howl’s Moving Castle and Kiki’s Delivery Service.

Let’s not forget Princess Mononoke. :wink: My previous Life Skill lecturer forced me to go through it. It isn’t too bad, but I was being very cynical about anime films at the time, so my views were slightly altered throughout the viewing.

Kiki’s Delivery Service is the best of them all. I love that film. :sunglasses:

I just saw Bottle Shock and that film is now in my top ten films of all-time! loved it! :smiley:

Just saw 2001: A Space Odyssey for the first time. Honestly, it was a pretty weird movie, thought by no mneas at all a bad one, quite the contrary. [spoil]I was the most interested in the HAL part, though, I wish that had been the whole movie[/spoil], but it was still cool to finally see a classic.

LOL, yeah. 2001 was considered as probably the most intelligent sci-fi feature to have ever existed in the history of humanity. ;-o

I still don’t get that film, its so weird.

We just watched Mr. Smith Goes to Washington…ah, what distance we have gone today, i could almost feel the past coming back around…at least when James Steward was around people actually noticed the honest man…unlike today. :frowning:

Think of it as Violet. It’s not ‘weird,’ it’s special. It’s just so difficult to be understood that only the highly intelligible people (those more intelligent than normal people) could understand its true beauty.

That’s why I might find it weird, too. :laugh:

I think I understand it. It’s like an epic Star Trek: First Contact + Evolving to Infinity and Beyond tale, for me. (I should read the novel). Though you can analyze some scenes and find enormou amounts of visual information hidden there, instead of narrated. I love it.