Yeah, seriously. It’s like hello, haven’t you ever heard of science people?
What does that have to do with the predictions? The “priest” is clearly associated with Christianity, not Atheism or Agnostics.
Really? Are you kidding? Some people are just so dumb.
Yeah. A bunch of people stopped following him after May 21st, but a ton still believe him. It’s just sad. I seriously can’t wait to her his response on the days following October 21st. He’ll probably come up with some excuse about how he misunderstood and that that date meant something else and now there’s a new date and we’ll go through all this all over again…
What does he think of 2012?
My opinions on this:
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“The end of the world has been coming since 1903. BC, that is.”
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Any priest who says he knows the end of the world is a hypocrite. The Bible said no one knows when it will happen.
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Hey anyone want a shirt that shows you survived?
That’s terrible! It’s a good thing animal control saved the poor thing from his deluded owner! And I hate when people say that about animals. I remember this one time when a kid wrote a letter to ask someone if his dog would live on in heaven, and it was so sad. The jerk responded that the dog would be eaten by people in hell like every animal that ever lived. It made me so angry. The poor kid.
Oh man I hate it when people say animals have no souls. I have this strong Christian friend, very sweet and outgoing and talkative and understanding, a good friend. I just make sure not to bring up animals around her. This one time I brought up that someone had a sign up for their lost pet and offered a hundred dollar reward, and was about to say how sweet that was, when she said, “Oh yeah, all that for a stupid cat.” Suddenly the conversation swerved to her laughing, “When kids cry, ‘The poor puppy!’ I’m like ‘Shut up! There’s people dying of leikemia!’” I really wanted to leave at that point.
Yeah, I know how you feel. I mean, ok so Christ came to save humans’ souls only. That’s because humans were the ones that needed the forgiveness for their sins. Animals didn’t corrupt the world, and they don’t sin like people. Whatever they did was for survival. Humans, however, were supposed to take care of animals (in the Bible it says we rule over them, so shouldn’t that mean we look out for them? Shouldn’t we respect and love those we “rule” over?) and were given higher responsibility. The problem is that people took advantage of that. And now the meaning is twisted. People will now not only tell you that we are better than animals but some go as far as saying animals have no thoughts and feelings. Says the species that causes more destruction than any other species on earth.
And who’s to say humans can’t go to heaven because you need Christ. We humans do, but animals don’t carry that responsibility so they are innocent. Besides, maybe animals believe in God all along, like you said. I think God has a special place for them prepared in the afterlife. He created them all and made them so diverse and beautiful, millions of species everywhere, and “He saw that it was good.” Heaven is the paradise that we were supposed to live in before the Fall. If animals were in His plan before, I believe they’ll be in His plans still.
sigh Yeah, I know. It’s sad. I’m a Christian, and I just hate when people who share the same faith as me misrepresent it. Not just the hypocritical “end of the world” talk. Cursing people out, thinking themselves higher than others, and so on. There is a saying, “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are nothing like your Christ.” I don’t remember where exactly it is, but in the Bible it says that when people question your faith, you should answer with confidence, but also with gentleness. There’s another one that says if we judge others, we’re no better than them. These two verses seem the most overlooked. I think they’re among the most important.
Please excuse my rambling.
Irrelevent, since he says that the world will end by then.
Didnt this guy suffer froma stroke recently? I think that was God delivering him a message…
eh, i would’ve said Kharma, but yeah, that works too.
Wonder what will happen to him after his second predicsion.
Not much longer untill he go’s into hiding again.
Well its October 21st and he just said “October 21st” and not 6 PM. I’m a Christian, and I’m still here. Looks like he was wrong again. Though I’m not surprised. Expect on Monday to hear this from Harold Camping on Monday “Ooooh sorry its February 21, 2012 now. PREPARE!”
TBQH I don’t care for that kind of idea. Him having a stroke doesn’t do anything or change what happened or help the people who’ve been hurt at all. It’s just him having a stroke, and heck for all we know that’s incative of certain problems he had which led to him even making these sorts of claims in the first place. It’s not exactly a clear message if it was to be taken as that, lots of people have them. They happen to good people too and bad people (though the vast majority of people are of course a bit of both)- and to be honest disasters and certain medical problems don’t discriminate much at all on the basis of morality.
If say he bought a fancy fast car with the money and was in an accident, that would be impressive in a sense, though I still wouldn’t wish it on someone. Not really. Unless he survived and wasn’t permanently hurt and I gave him majorly trippy dreams while on morphine re. redemption etc and continued to give him them until he set things right.
Instead the best thing would be to have him give back the money he took from people and try and undo the damage and stress he has caused a large number of people. He has to admit he was wrong.
I’m kind of sketchy on the idea of laughing at these people in general too. Many lives were ruined and let’s face it the dog thing makes perfect sense if you were to believe it as 100% truth with no doubt whatsoever. It seems the merciful thing to do. It’s kind of like the idea of burning heretics in the old days. They believed this was what their god wanted. For heretics to be punished so their ‘influence’ wouldn’t be spread and threaten christianity. However there was a reason they didn’t go for a quick death too.
It’s barbaric, really it is, but back then a slow death made sense to them- since it gave you time to convert and save your soul from eternal damnation according to their beliefs. Suffering for say a few hours beat the chance of not suffering for eternity in their case. This is what they truly believed was the right and the lesser evil, and if they still believed it with not a doubt in their minds I think most people would agree. Even though today we know it as cruel and horrifying and a horrible way to die. I’d hate it, I’d hate having to do that sort of thing, but if you believed it with all your heart it’s likely to be accepted. After all the ‘truth’ (or what you perceive as true) doesn’t have to be nice because it doesn’t bend to your whims on the basis of you not liking it. Facts or what you think are facts don’t change just because you don’t like them. Long (though painful) executions used to be about second chances in salvation christian history. And letting the ‘heretic’ live wasn’t an option in their belief system and considered the capital crime. Because it was possibly a way to take away their own salvation in their society. They were driven by fear and ignorance. And that’s clear now to the vast majority of christians. But it was perfectly logical to them back then.
These people were 100% sure, or else they wouldn’t had sold all their possessions, and the thing is people can’t consciously choose what to believe, not really. I’ve never believed (heh) that someone can just automatically turn that sort of thing on and off like a switch. It’s a combination of things which result in it- the society you were brought up in (national or local or both), what your family and friends were like, the type of information that was available to you at certain important points of your life (timing can be everything after all, I mean if you’re raised to think everyone is stupid for not believing X and instead believing Y, you’re not going to be all that open minded to Y probably).
A single event can perhaps give that last final push in either direction but it wasn’t the only thing which cause that person to believe or not believe in something. A number of things and circumstances were involved to make that possible.
I mean while I didn’t have an exact date to stew over in my case, the afterlife of hell end of times is definite nightmare fuel when you’ve been raised to believe it as perfectly true. It’s not something you sometimes want to think too hard on when you honestly believe it, or else you can go a bit crazy from grief in my experience. Also some people have been raised to believe that certain religious leaders always simply know better. They should in the area of their specific religion in any case so this assumption isn’t precisely a stupid one, as they’ve (apparently) been studying it and devoted more time to it than them.
Unfortunately this is not always true and sometimes they make honest mistakes in ignorance from their own assumptions; don’t get/try to understand people who object to their ideas perhaps automatically labeling them as evil because they’re scared themselves or take deliberate and horrible advantage of the fact there are people who’d follow without question.
Also since of course religious leaders are a product of their own times and everything they grew up with and were raised to believe too. Nothing exists in a vacuum after all. Christians can believe a lot of things which don’t technically line up perfectly with what’s in the bible anyway (without even realising it. (People keep thinking all angels are either guys with wings or good looking people all the time- when there are actual angels in the bible which would give you nightmares) or at least don’t take into account the proper context and the time period as well as other things I won’t list here. They feel they don’t have to ‘check’ because they ‘know’ that whoever is saying otherwise is ‘misleading’ them or ‘mistaken’ or 'blind’in the case of their beliefs that this guy was right about a rapture occurring on a specific date.
When honestly what they probably thought of other people now applies to them.
I’m guessing the people who did follow it are pretty desperate right now. They might desperately try to figure out what went wrong, and maybe hang onto any other date which might be thrown that way now that October is a bust too. And maybe, maybe they can eventually come to terms with the truth. But I’d anticipate more people feeling honestly heart broken that they were mislead before anger would come if it does. It’s not nice to feel lied to or to be mocked for falling for it. Especially not over something once so deeply and emotionally important them.
Well it’s October 21st and… I’m alive. No suprise there.
It doesn’t surprise me at all that he’s wrong again.
Id expect this though. No one…not even I know when the rapture will happen. Every second we face the rapture COULD happen but we are confirmed it hasn’t when the second passes.
I wonder if it will happen when people in the world come to the conclusion it never will.
And on the end of the world, after the rapture, according to the bible, the earth won’t be destroyed for, I’m willing to say, over a thousand years after. Plenty of time for the anti-Christ virus to breed and take over and even on the time the world ends, we won’t be on the earth! We’ll either be in Heaven with Christ and God, or we’ll be in hell. Simple as that.
Now this is just what the bible says.
I’m not trying to force what I believe on anyone. Just stating what the bible says to show how the priest has got it all wrong .