Rio (2011)

Eyup. :slight_smile: Well, I’m glad you liked the photos I posted, EJE. I love spotting other artists’ works on Pontillas’ table such as the Chris Sanders’ statuette, the copy of Ronnie Del Carmen ‘Paper Biscuit’ and the Phillipe Hooghe ‘Glen-Keane inspired’ sketches of Tarzan. :wink: I’m very eager to hear your opinion of the movie once you watch it on your bday.

First of all, thanks for your detailed and balanced review, bryan. :slight_smile: It’s great you have seen it and have expressed your opinion, as I was curious to hear about it since you mentioned you were gonna see it. For those who want to read his review, there’s no spoilers as far as I can tell…

If you’ll allow me to respond to your statements…

Personally, I actually felt their romantic development was more fleshed-out in comparison with other films like Ice Age 3’s Scrat and Scratte, HTTYD’s Hiccup and Astrid, and TS3’s Buzz and Jessie.

For IA3, I really hated how they killed the relationship at the end, as I mentioned in my review in the Ice Age 3 thread. The latter two suffered from ‘Strangled By the Red String’ in the sense that there was no indication of anything beyond a platonic relationship; in HTTYD’s case, Astrid hated Hiccup until ‘Romantic Flight’, for TS3, there were very few romantic expressions between Buzz and Jessie until ‘Spanish Buzz’.

To be fair, Rio also suffers from tropes such as Dance of Romance, Gaussian Girl, Love At First Punch, and The Power of Love. But I felt that their romantic development from reluctant blind dates who get off on the wrong foot to firm partners who work together to achieve their goal. It’s the most realistic love story in an animated film since Wall-E, Up (told through the opening scene and the ‘Married Life’ montage) and Finding Nemo (if we treat Marlin and Dory’s relationship as best friends).

I did like Pedro and Nico and didn’t find them really annoying, they did help Blu and Jewel a lot throughout their adventure and served a purpose. I have to agree with you though, that they could’ve left Luiz’ ‘medical condition’ out and the story wouldn’t have suffered from it. I felt that they put in his drooling habit just to excite the kids who would be easily grossed out. Also, I wish Luiz got more screentime and wasn’t introduced so late in the film.

I actually think Rio’s story is better. I may not know the full details of Newt, but here’s the official synopsis:

Now, from this synopsis, there’s an adventure, most likely a road-trip. I’m not entirely sure what’s the purpose of the adventure, because as far as I can tell, neither of the newts has an owner and thus have no reason to undertake this trip. Maybe there is a purpose, but it’s not explained in this synopsis. Also, they “can’t stand each other” either, and there seems to be no reason why Newt or Brooke can’t just leave the other and go off on their own.

Rio, on the other hand, also has a ‘road-trip’ adventure. Like Bolt, Blu wants to get back to his owner. And they are a couple who “can’t stand each other”. However, the difference is that they are chained together. This gives them a reason why one party can’t just leave the other. They are, pardon the pun, inseparable. This gives an additional motivation to Blu’s quest to return to Linda. He now has to find a way to break the chain (which is a very clever metaphor for their bond to each other) linking him and Jewel so that they can go on their own separate ways. Blu back to his “cage with the little bell” and Jewel back to her home in the jungle. This, coupled with the fact that Blu can’t fly, makes their journey even tougher and more perilous.

Also, in order to impress Jewel (or at least redeem his character in a way), Blu has to find the courage to do something which he has never done before in his life, yet something which every bird in Rio except him is capable of- to fly. In Newt, there appears to be no ‘disability’ to Newt, except maybe his social inadequacies and timidness, which is also Blu’s character. And, of course, it is a ‘fish-out-of-water’ story like Finding Nemo, Up, and Newt, and it is a ‘survival of the species’ story like Ice Age 2, Dinosaur, and Newt.

I’m not sure how you can’t be excited by it (it has samba, there’s so many interesting dance, flight and action sequences, etc.), but there were some quite CORNY scenes which I thought weren’t necessary, like the [spoil]slow-motion scream of Tulio on Linda’s dirtbike (which reminded me of Shrek/Kung Fu Panda slow-mo screams or Lightning McQueen’s tongue-lolling jump in Cars[/spoil], or the “pee in the birdbath” or “poop on seagulls” toilet humour.

I was in an afternoon matinee, and I had a similar crowd reaction. There was this woman who kept laughing behind me 8D, and some of the kids were responsive to the film. I think it has a very universal appeal in that sense.

I’d kindly disagree. I think Blu and Jewel are the most well-developed characters outside Pixar since Hiccup and Toothless in HTTYD. Their bickering and gradual trusting of each other is one of the most interesting and heartwarming aspects of the film. :slight_smile:

Again, I agree with all your points, except the last one. I think Blue Sky and Carlos really made an effort to flesh out the secondary characters here and focus on not having too many, unlike Toy Story 3 and apparently Cars 2. With the exception of Luis (who I felt had his drooling condition just for laughs and should have had more screentime), I think the characters were pretty strong and had distinct personalities. I also liked the fact that [spoil]Linda and Tulio’s relationship was a mirror of Blu and Jewel. It’s classic ‘B character-arc line’ of scriptwriting.[/spoil]

A note about the evil ones… there’s one ‘villain’ who actually redeems himself at the end, and I liked the fact that [spoil]he was the window into the world of the favelas for non-Brazilian viewers. That scene alone of him wandering through the slums was very courageous of Blue Sky to do, instead of ‘glamourising’ Rio.[/spoil]
Nigel, of course, is an excellent villain. Something like a combination of Hopper’s bullying antics and Hades’ wisecracking jokes.

All I can say is… the songs sound kinda samey if not viewed in the context of the film (I know because I listened to a few tracks before seeing the film). John Powell’s score is the one to pay attention to, because like HTTYD, he incorporates the main theme wonderfully into some of the cues. I think there’s two soundtracks - one of the ‘Music from the movie’ and another of John Powell’s score. I only like a few tracks from ‘Music from the movie’, but I would definitely buy Powell’s score album if I see it in stores or had an iTunes account.

And trust me, Rio will give you a heart attack with some of the beautiful sequences and infectious rhythms. At the very least keep you awake for most of the time. :slight_smile:

I know that you are trying to criticise lacklustre animated movies, but I think you should give more credit the few that are actually good. There are people in other studios who treat it as more than a ‘9-5 job’, and care deeply about their work. Pixar does not have a monopoly on good films. There are movies like Tangled, HTTYD, LOTG, Rango, etc. that stand as good a chance as any Pixar movie in terms of quality.

Also, this is a very personal project for Carlos Saldanha, as he is a Rio carioca or native. I can tell that a lot of love and attention to detail has been poured into the film, because I did some research and actually recognised a few of the landmarks and local references throughout the movie. Yes, there are some lousy bits, like I mentioned, the cheesy jokes and Luiz’ underdeveloped character. But overall, I think it is an excellent film, and just as great as Rango (Rango appeals to my ‘adult’ brain, while Rio appeals to my ‘inner child’ brain).

Cars 2 and Kung Fu Panda 2 have their work cut out for them this year if they’re gonna impress me. :smiley:

Apologies for the super-long post, and I’m sorry if I come off as annoying to anyone. I’ll post a detailed review later, as I think I’ve already said too much in this post, but let me just say that I thoroughly enjoyed Rio and I got my money’s worth in 3D.

To use a strange analogy, if Rio was an ice-cream cone, I got the cone, the ice-cream and chocolate sprinkles on top. :slight_smile:

Saw the first commercial on TV just yet!..and it gave away a big fat spoiler or two. :frowning:

Not cool, localisation team, not cool.

Still, so incredibly excited! :smiley:

Ok, now I’ve made me decision. I’m going to see Rio on Friday. I didn’t realize that there are two soundtracks. It’s not posted on iTunes, only the soundtrack with the songs. I saw it on Amazon, but it’s not for sale yet.

Your absoluteley right. I loved all of those animated films you mentioned, except for LOTG. I’ll also add, Mary & Max, Dragon Hunters (which was a nice suprise), Grave of the Firelies, Over the Hedge and many more. Heck, HYYTD was my favorite movie from last year. I saw it ten times in the theater. I only saw Toy Story four times in the theater. But reading some of the things in that review made me think about some things that I’ve been wondering for a long time.

I can’t wait to read your super long post about Rio (after I see it of course) tdit! You always have fantastic views and commenteries on film.

I’m most excited for Jermaine Clement’s awesome voice over as Nigel (Flight of the Choncords is one of my favorite shows), the soundtrack, and just the setting of Rio (From the beauty of the hills of Sugerloaf to the downtrodden Fevelas. I’m sure I won’t be disapointed!

To those who want to read my posts, I have ensured that I will not reveal as much as possible for our American members, and that anything which I think may be a potential spoiler will be redacted. But of course, if you wanna go in ‘blind’, you really shouldn’t be watching any clips or reading this thread! :wink:

Yeah, the TV spots in Australia gave away Nigel’s outcome at the climax. :unamused:

John Powell’s score doesn’t feature as heavily as HTTYD because of screentime devoted to the obligatory artist songs, but when it does appear, it really enhances the scene. And as he has done with the Ice Age series and HTTYD, he weaves the main theme (Real in Rio) beautifully into each track. I really wish someone would upload this on Youtube so I can have a listen, especially to Track 18.

I’ve watched half or Mary & Max on a plane and plan to finish it. I heard about Dragon Hunters (French film, right?). Grave of the Fireflies made me weep, but I don’t want to see it again. Over the Hedge is a pretty clever and observant film by Dreamworks’ standards. And of course, HTTYD was also my favourite film from last year. I saw it both in conventional 3D with my friends and IMAX 2D alone, while I only saw TS3 in conventional 2D with one of my friend. But theatre partners notwithstanding, I still think that HTTYD was a more enjoyable ‘cinema experience’.

I don’t know how your crowd will be, but I watched an afternoon matinee full of kids and only once or twice did some kid cry. Most of them were pretty well-behaved and were very reactive (and as I mentioned in a previous thread, there was this one woman who was really enthusiastic at laughing behind me). I think it’s a crowd-pleasing experience.

The trick to enjoying Rio is just like going to the city itself. You gotta let go of your inhibitions and ‘inner critic’, and just have fun! Don’t go in expecting a ‘Grave of the Fireflies’ or ‘Waltz With Bashir’ because this is not that kind of movie (although there were some very emotional and poignant scenes in the beginning and at the climax). But this isn’t a simple Bee Movie or Shark Tale either, there is something at stake for both the protagonists that makes you care for them (freedom, conquering fears, reuniting with loved ones, etc.). This movie hit the sweet spot of cinematic bliss for me, not too weepy, but not too kiddy either. If you go in with an open mind and a childlike sense of wonder, you’ll have a good time.

But of course, you don’t have to take my word for it. I’m interested to hear your opinion come Friday.

Thanks! As I’ve said, I have taken care not to give away the plot and I’ve redacted any spoiler bits, so in case you wanna read it, there’s nothing to worry about. But yeah, it’s good to go in ‘blind’ as well! :slight_smile:

You may want to watch this interview he gave at the premiere. Apparently he’s 90% evil in real-life! :open_mouth: Oh, and this two-questioner done by Trailer Addict. No spoilers.

As for the movie, yeah, it does feel like a ‘whistle-stop tour’ of the city, but I like how they weaved it into the storyline.

ATTENTION, I know I keep raving about this movie, but there’s one criticism I would like to say here… the marmosets don’t really serve any purpose in this film and I think they can safely be taken out without affecting the story. I mean, they’re great comic-relief as Nigel’s henchmen, but they don’t really get much to do in the movie ([spoil]and they didn’t redeem themselves by helping Blu and Jewel at the climax, or holding off Nigel or something[/spoil]), which kinda disappointed me.

Anyway, here’s three photos of a Farmville set exclusive…

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And an interview on the Lopez Show where George Lopez interviews… George Lopez!
George Interviews George About ‘Rio’ the Movie

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Thanks for all these updates!

LOL ‘The Coackatoo Voodoo’! I like that title. Clement is very funny, “Why should people see this movie” “Because it’s the only one out that I’m in at the moment”. It’s so different seeing him with a beard!

I saw the George Lopez with George Lopez interview last night. George is funny! “I can never do NOTHING”!

And good idea with the Farmville tie ins. I don’t do Farmville, but I do Frontierville. And when Rango came out, they had Rango quests and rewards. Interesting way to advertize!

I saw the movie yesterday. But the sleep that I missed the night before I saw it started to catch up with me about thirty minutes into it. I didn’t fall asleep, but I wasn’t fully into in during certain parts. So I’m going to see it again soon before I really talk about how I felt. But I will talk about a couple of things. First the music. I really enjoyed the score and the songs. I enjoyed the songs so much that I bought the soundtrack when I got home. I love Fly Love Sapo Cai. It’s to bad that the soundtrack with John Powell’s score won’t be releaed until Tuesday. :frowning: I was afraid that I wouldn’t hear to much of his score since there were so many songs in the movie. But I was satisfied with what I heard when it comes to how much score I heard. It was more than I expected. It’s such a beautiful movie. I think it’s even more beauftil than Tangled. Which is a movie I felt it was the most beautiful CGI film so far. I’m thinking about seeing it in 2D (before 2D showings are gone) so I can see the colors pop! Sometimes, I would take off my 3D glasses sometimes and to look at how vibrant the colors looked. Although I wasn’t fully into it at certain points because of how sleep I was, I really enjoy it. I think this will probably end up knocking Ice Age off it’s throne as my favorite Blue Sky film. But I need to see it again. I want some Rio toys! And I wish there was an art of book. I bet there’s some gorgeous art work that’s begging to be seen by the public in Blue Sky’s studio! I can’t wait for the Blu-ray release so I can watch it in HD! :smiley:

Why do you feel that way tdit?

So I saw this yesterday with my friends for my birthday, and I LOVED it!

I can’t even describe how much I enjoyed it. The music, characters, story. It was all fantastic, and I had a great time watching it with my friends. Makes me want to go down to Carnivale!

I saw Rio today, and really enjoyed it! And may I just say that my favorite part of the story was [spoil]Tulio and Linda - so cute to see a “nerds in love” (for want of a better description) romance. And I liked Fernando and his story, and even though you knew, as soon as he said he had no parents, that he would end up with T&L, I loved that happy “family” ending for them.[/spoil]

The Blu/Jewel plot worked fine for me, and I particularly enjoyed Jesse Eisenberg. The visuals were gorgeous, the score was infectious, and the Carnival Parade has got to be one of the very best animated set pieces of the year - worth the entire price of admission by itself. My main criticisms were “enough supporting characters already!” (Agreed that the marmosets - I didn’t know that’s what they were - weren’t necessary) and yeah, I could have done without the gross-out gags around Luiz. Jemaine Clement was [spoil]totally channeling Jeremy Irons from Lion King :slight_smile: and worked fine within the film, but his song felt a bit like, "Oh, hey, we need a song for the villain here.[/spoil]

When all these films get released on Blu-Ray (ok, I can hear the pun-filled BR campaign for Rio now), I need to do a double feature of Rio and Rango - I think I was more critical of Rango because my expectations were higher, and less critical of Rio because my expectations were lower; I feel like I flat-out enjoyed Rio more, but objectively Rango is better because it’s more “unique”…

Oh, one more note, I was actually laughing out loud at the Scrat cartoon before the movie - and I’m not a big Scrat fan, but it was short and sweet (I think the first thing that really got me was the sight gag with the [spoil]giraffes.[/spoil]

Theatre report: about 2/3 to 3/4 full, I may have been the only one there without kids, the audience was pretty responsive, and a kid (about 8 or so) behind me said, when the movie was over, “That was hilarious!”

I enjoyed the Scrat cartoon as well, but it didn’t have the same punch because I’ve already seen it online!

I’m glad you enjoyed the movie, and I agree. [spoil]I was more into Tulio and Linda’s relationship, especially durin Carnival![/spoil]

And I see what you mean about Nigel and his song. [spoil]It did feel out of place, because he only really mentioned his motivation and background just in the song, and the story would go on without the song.[/spoil]But I really enjoyed and loved the song, I’m a big Jermaine Clement song, so I loved seeing his music style in a movie!

We got an applause at the end of my showing.

It was a very cute movie, although it really could have done without the songs. That really took a lot out of me to sit through them xP Especially Nigel’s. ugh. Did he really need one? The others were okay, very catchy though.

But, perfect casting. Ho-lee-cow. Jesse as Blu, could they have done better? (Not a fan of his looks, but I adore his voice! x))

I loved how the relationships developed, and how (h)awkward Tulio was. :stuck_out_tongue: Toooo many supporting characters, I agree. Wasn’t fond of Luiz’s gross gags, or the monkey-creatures. Were they necessary?

Oh, and baby Blu at the beginning… I started tearing he was so cute! GUYS, can I just take him home and put him in my pocket? :smiley:

Very cute film overall though! I loved it!

And the Scrat short… didn’t know that was going to be attached :stuck_out_tongue: Thought it was cute and funny as well.

/endshortreview

You know what was even cuter?

[spoil]Blu and Jewel’s three babies!![/spoil]

Glad you liked the movie!

Wait a sec, so I’ve heard there are songs sung by the characters? Holy crud, that’s awesome. For some reason I love random songs in movies and such… that’s probably why I like that Donkey Kong Country cartoon so much. Heh!

Anyway, I wanna see Rio with some of my best friends. In 3D. Sounds like a good idea?

That sounds like an amazing plan! And you are right, it has a fantastic soundtrack!

Saw this movie yesterday!

(Along with buying Megamind and Spirit: Stallion on the Cimmarron and watching those with a friend on DVD when I got back after we were making Daisy chains in the park… it wasn’t a very productive day for work but fun with discussion relating to ‘evil’ and horses.)

In any case Rio was pretty damn good. If there were things to nitpick over it would be that Pedro kind of threw me off at points (voice was great though) and the human parts kind of suffered in comparison to the birds [spoil](not to say the pairing was cute but… yeah).[/spoil]I felt we could have used a minute or two more with just Blu and Linda. Though I really did like Fernando (the kid) [spoil]and was pretty glad he got a family in the end[/spoil].

Overall a fun movie and very sweet in its own way. I don’t think it will go under as ‘FAVOURITE MOVIE OF ALL TIME’ but it was very enjoyable and I would bring someone to see it again if they wanted to.

That being said I wonder if there will be any overprotective parents with regards the costumes. (I bet there’s one group… there’s always one…)

LOL, there always is! Great review, I’m glad you enjoyed the movie! Oh, and don’t forget to put spoiler tags in it!

Thanks for reminding me!

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But yeah I’m guessing someone is going to complain about the costumes and ‘booty shaking’ or what have you. :laughing:

Saw it last weekend. It’s entertaining, but I can’t help but feel that Pixar would’ve done this movie much better. Its pacing was way too fast at points and didn’t really allow for time to take in the visuals and the development of Blu and Jewel’s romance. Good voice acting overall even though Will.i.am was annoying. Music and score were also great.

Very interesting to read your opinions! :smiley:

Glad you enjoyed the visuals! Coincidentally, I posted that same wish on Twitter… I would buy an ‘Art of’ in a heartbeat!

Since you’ve watched it, simply highlight the spoiler tags to reveal and click on the TV Tropes link. But in a nutshell, I really hated Scrat and Scratte’s ‘throwaway’ love breakup and HTTYD and TS3’s ‘death by red string’ plots (ie there was little to no hint of anything more than platonic love, and suddenly they’re snogging each other). Rio, while it had its [spoil]‘Dance of Love’ and ‘Fumbled Declaration’[/spoil] cliches, still took the time for Blu and Jewel to get to know each other and even flirt.

I agree, he was trying to channel ‘Be Prepared’, but Blue Sky had to sneak in a few poop jokes and puns. :unamused: Still liked the number though, it sounded ‘punchier’ in the theatre than it did when I watched the sneak preview online.

My theatre partner and I clapped! And he actually initiated it first before I did! :smiley:

I had that plot point spoiled by some overeager fans on Deviantart (they read the novelisation and posted drawings which I saw as a thumbnail on the club :unamused:). But it was still pretty cute to hear them sing.

For me, the cutest scene (and ‘awesomest’ as well) was the [spoil]“We’re still chained together, remember?” line followed by that kiss.[/spoil] Oh god, it filled me with so much joy to see [spoil]Blu fly after Jewel’s gift of love[/spoil] that my heart almost exploded!

By the way, have you read my spoiler-tagged comments, EJE? Whaddya think of my thoughts? :wink:

Yup. Carlos said he didn’t want it to be a musical, but there are certainly a few song and dance numbers. And I think by the end of the movie, EVERY character except [spoil]Luis, Linda, Tulio and the monkeys[/spoil] would have sung a line or two! :wink: You’d be surprised how well Jesse, Anne, and Jamie can sing! :smiley:

As for whether it’s worth it in 3D, my experience was so seamless and the film so exciting I didn’t even notice I was wearing glasses! But if that was the case, then maybe it wouldn’t make such a difference after all had I watched it in 2D. Some of the scenes like the opening sequence, the aerial shots, and the ‘cheap shots’ like the beach volleyball stretching the net and a couple of streamers during the Carnival sequence were worth watching in 3D, but otherwise, I don’t think it’s a ‘must-see’ for the extra premium.

I think it was very brave of Blue Sky to show us [spoil]the seedy side of Rio by his wandering through the slums sequence. And then when he sits in that little shelter on the roof, ugh… it was so heartbreaking![/spoil] That took a lot of courage, and short of showing a gangster with guns or something, that was some pathos and ‘realism’ on behalf of Carlos and the writers to include that scene and character.

If Pixar did ‘Rio’ with the same plot and characters, they probably would have done a better job. Apparently, I heard on the grapevine that Fox removed a few scenes that cut the runtime considerably because it wanted to get a G-rating to appeal to a larger audience. Now, it’s not that Pixar is immune to commercialization (you only have to look at the amount of Toy Story and Cars merchandise Disney is milking from them, and the sequels they’re making recently). But Pixar may be less prone to outright executive manipulation like what Fox has done to Blue Sky. This ‘censoring’ of the PG scenes have made several Rio fans mad (just wander around the Rio fanclubs on dA and you’ll see what I mean).

If you mean Pixar would’ve done a better job with Newt, I disagree, for reasons I have stated in my previous posts. And yes, probably any movie, if done by Pixar, would be better. Probably. But they didn’t come up with this idea. None of the Brain Trust, to my knowledge, are Brazilian and have the project as close and dear to their heart as Carlos Saldanha. And Pixar has a long way to go to really move beyond its Americana settings and explore other world cultures (It’s now doing that with Brave and Cars 2, but Dreamworks and other studios like Animal Logic, ILM, and Sony Animation have long produced films in exotic settings).

So would Pixar will do a better job than Blue Sky with Rio? Maybe. But the current fault lies with the money-hungry suits in the distribution company, not with the honest artist and creators at Blue Sky.

Good news, everybody! John Powell’s score is out today! To those who don’t know, this is different from the ‘Music From’ soundtrack, which has all the Sergio Mendes, Will.i.am and Taio Cruz numbers. The score is the orchestral, the instrumentals, the bits you really want to listen to when you’re in a contemplative or pensive mood. Or if you just wanna enjoy film music.

Here’s a sampler suite, uploaded by a Samaritan Youtuber:
John Powell - Rio (2011) - Soundtrack Score Suite

Not as distinctive as KFP or HTTYD, but I really like the main theme and if I had an iTunes account or see a physical copy in a musical store, I’d totally get this! <3

I really enjoyed this movie. Not like some of the ones from 2010, but I did love it, especially the beginning, and the Fernando part TDIT said.