Sarah Palin and Republicans

She really represents the Conservative vote more then anything.

All that means is she thinks a women shouldn’t have a choice concerning her own body. (which will be interjected with “but at the expense of a human life” which I would rebut that the fetus isn’t viable until about 5 months and I do believe late term abortions are wrong except for extraneous circumstances, and someone will state that life begins at conception. Phew. Glad that’s out of the way.) A choice that only a women herself can and should make. Hence the feminism.

She also doesn’t think abortion should be allowed in cases of rape in incest.

Oh no…politics :open_mouth: I think Palin is a pretty good VP choice for McCain, I share a lot of views with them, but I’m going with Obama so far, I think the US needs somthing a little different. :wink: Plus, I think he knows more about the common man,and his needs.

Just my view, and mine alone :wink:
Happy debating :slight_smile:

Fett101: Jeremiah 1:5

The Abortion thing is this;

If you want the risk of getting pregenant by having ___ then you don’t have the right to get rid of your result of having it. You hurt yourself, your relationship, and you destroy a life before it posseses a chance at this life to become someone. What if that baby were to become a superstar or a millionaire that influences the world. Who was it…oh Brady Quinn was a possible abortion kid. His mom almost got rid of him. Now what would college sports fans say about that kid not beind born.

You need a more reliable source.

Except the men get off easy. And they do and should have the right to get rid of it. We aren’t all christain and there’s no reason the rules of christainity should apply to our nation.

That’s a sweet story, however the majority of the time the child is born into a low-income household to a mother who is never able to receive a college or finish her high-school education, so the kid lives a terrible life and has a higher risk for drug abuse and crime.

At least Palin supports contraception. That’s something.

(careful) Just becuase they are born into a low-income house doesn’t mean they don’t have potential. Some of the greatest minds in the world dropped out of high-school.

Except the men get off easy. And they do and should have the right to get rid of it. We aren’t all christain and there’s no reason the rules of christainity should apply to our nation.

Dude, its not just Christian. I think that if you risk it, you should have to suffer the consequences. If it will cause harm to the mother or in cases of rape or incest, than yes, abortion is completely reasonable. But if you where just stupid and didn’t use protection, than thats different.

Yeah man, does Eddie Van Halen ring a bell? :laughing:

actually i never have heard of that name…

He was the lead guitarist of the band Van Halen… seriously talented guy.

The interesting Sarah Palin connection? Apparently her youngest son was named in honor of the band (Trig Paxson Van Palin)

Go Al! :smiley: Thomas Edison, Ben Franklin, Jesus, etc.

Yeah, dude.

Walt Disney came from a poor family. What if he was aborted?

You forgot his older brother Roy O. Disney, he Co-founded Disney with his younger brother Walt Disney. Anyways the greatest happiness always comes from suffering in life.
You guys forgot Bill Gates he was from fairly wealthy family and he dropped out of college. A guy who put a computer in nearly every household (not by hand).

I think that it defeats the purpose of telling teens not to get pregnant and use protection if we turn around and say “But if you do, you can just abort it and it’ll be fine.” Now, not all teens have the chance or money to abort, and I think we can cut down on teen pregnancies, which often lead to dropping out of school, money problems, abandonment from friends and family or even suicide if teens think about the consequences of pregnancy first and don’t just think about “Oh, I can get it aborted.”

LOL Man now I have a picture of Bill Gates sneaking into every household and putting a computer in them! Thanks a lot!

I got to see Palin at the Republican rally near my house today and I liked her speech, I thought it was really good, along with McCain. Funny thing is, I think the people cheered for her more than John. There was a feminist writer there, and she said she switched her vote for McCain because he chose Palin, which she said showed her he cares about women, while Obama doesn’t because he didn’t choose Hilary. I personally disagree with her, I did not like Hilary and I think he didn’t not choose her because she was a woman, I just thought this was interesting.
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Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion on matters, so I’m not going to touch on Palin’s views, because if you support her views, that’s definitely your right.

However one thing to keep in mind. And I hope the members here on Pixar Planet are open enough not to shut their eyes to something just because it doesn’t support what they believe in, even if it’s true.

The one thing that is plain as day, whether you like or dislike Ms. Palin, is that she has absolutely no qualms about lying through her teeth. Over and over. And I don’t want that kind of person to be leading our government. She knows what she says day after day on the campaign trail are lies (don’t believe me, check out the facts for yourself) yet she still continues to say them, knowing that a good majority of the US population will be impressed by her friendliness, and not bother to take the 30 seconds needed to actually look up the facts and see that she’s lying.

That “bridge to nowhere” that she repeatidly (day after day) says “I told Congress thanks but no thanks!” Lie. Palin did not tell Congress anything. That itself is a lie. But of course the real lie is that she supported it. Yes, and it is a matter of public record (with her on tape speaking – don’t flame me for pointing out the truth, go hear the audio clip). Only long after supporting it (there’s a great audio clip of her talking about the bridge, and how Alaskans should be proud of it, and their power in Congress at the time) when it became tagged as a pork project, did she suddenly change her mind. But then she still took the pork money for the bridge anyway, and used it for other things. That’s a fact.

Her assertion that she fights pork? That’s the worst lie of all. Look at any legitimate news organization, and you will find out that when she was mayor of her small town (population of about 7,000 people) – she hired a Washington lobbyist and got $27 million dollars in pork for her tiny town. That is fact. Yet day after day she lies about how she’s against pork. To me, hiring a Washington lobbyist to get $27 million dollars in pork for a tiny town of 7,000 makes her a queen of pork. It’d be fine if she’s now against it after “seeing the light.” But that’s not what she says. Instead, every day she lies about her record – which is a public record anyone can look up.

And for McCain to call himself a reformer – someone who will cast off the lobbyists – is probably the biggest lie of all. He has surrounded himself with nothing but lobbyists, from Phil Graham (an ex-senator, now a registered lobbyist) who wrote McCain’s economic policy (and called America a “nation of whiners”) to the head of McCain’s campaign, Rick Davis (one of the biggest lobbyists in Washington) to Randy Scheunemann, McCain’s chief foreign policy advisor, who is a registered lobbyist and registered agent of a foreign government (paid $800,000 to represent Georgia). Think I’m lying? Look it up. It’s all public record.

Those who support McCain and Palin for their views, that’s fine. But to me these two people have no honor and integrity left anymore. Politicians always make white lies, exaggerate and change their minds (Obama as well as McCain). But what does it say about them (and us) when they think they can lie so boldly and openly? Or about those people who immediately just shut their eyes to anything bad about “their candidate” whether it be the truth or not. There are plenty of Democrats I have been less than proud of in the past. And if I were Republican, I’d be disgusted to have these two representing my party. I don’t like being thought of as a fool, someone too stupid not to notice lie after lie. If a candidate wants to win me over, win me over with what you want to do with this country.

And by the way, I have to note the double-standard. Just imagine the outcry from the right wing if Obama’s daughter got pregnant as a teenager out of wedlock. The same people would be screaming about how Obama can’t even lead his own family, how can we have someone of such morals lead the country! But if it’s your candidate? Then it’s God’s blessing.

If these things don’t matter to you, that’s your right. But they are facts.

The sad thing is of course, that people get swept up in the minutea, and they get a blanket pulled over their eyes. America is in deep trouble right now, and we’re fighting two wars. We should be deciding who to lead us based on the issues. But we’re not.
Why?
Here’s a direct quote from McCain’s Campaign manager Rick Davis, last week. This is what he told the Washington Post: “This election is not about issues. This election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates.”

Well, both candidates are going to be stupid about this election; the real battle is between Obama and Palin, for some wacky insane reason. Since when does a presidential nominee want to fight a vice presidential nominee? :laughing:

What this world needs is a strong Christian leader who will clean up the mess we’ve made. :sunglasses:

careful A113…the leader doesn’t neccesarily need to be Christian. Just someone who knows the topics and has plans that will work. Not just hope for change.

About the Bridge-to-nowhere thing, she most certainly did NOT lie! She supported it while RUNNING, but after she saw how stupid it was was when she stopped it. She never said she always was against it, nope, never, nada. And just because she didn’t say "Thanks, but no thanks" exactly doesn’t mean she didn’t stop it. People do that in speeches. It’s called creative license.

And about McCain’s quote, thats because its TRUE. If it was a perfect world, all politics would be about issues. But it’s not, is it? There are people who don’t know a darn thing, just believe everything people tell them. And unfortunately, they have the same count in the poles as people who do. It’s annoying, but it’s[b:2dstzzhw]life[/b:2dstzzhw]. That is why I think there should be I.Q and knowledge tests to be able to vote! WHO’S WITH ME? :P Oh well. :-\

Sorry if I sounded mean, I’m just very touchy about politics. :)

Only after it made the media and the country was up in arms about it.

“Ketchikan desires a better way to reach the airport, but the $398 million bridge is not the answer,” said Governor Palin. “Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it’s clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island,” Governor Palin added. “Much of the public’s attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here. But we need to focus on what we can do, rather than fight over what has happened.”
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Not really. Jim Crow laws enacted poll taxes and reading tests for the sole purpose of preventing blacks from voting. This would be just another step blocking most people from wanting to vote. What they should do, however, is make the day of a presidential election a national holiday.