Here’s a compendium. And it’s very well developed.
That’s an amazing thread- what a wealth of information! And that WALL-E Forum looks pretty cool, too. Love the EVE emotes. 
Thanks for the link, Masterweaver!
I Googled “wall-e forum” about a month after the movie came out, and then again in late August before joining here, and this website (PP) was the only one that came up on the first page of the search result. But apparently that other site was reorganized in late September, has 317+ members, and has a topics format similar to here, with a heavy emphasis on Pixar. Seems that most of the posts are one word or single line blurbs, and many of the threads are duplicates of what you would find here: possible awards, box office. In the past week a few people here have found their way over there, as you can see the same names, I counted less than 10. They claim to be the biggest Wall-E site, which I’m not sure is true, it might have more hits and if you google nowadays, more search results will show up there than here at PixarPlanet. Of course, this (PP) website is much more than just Wall-E…
Haha, it took me a while to realize that compendium was there. But I have seen a lot of those threads, and there is a lot of pretty detailed stuff. Gotta love the WALL-E Forum. Lots of smart people over there.
It may be the first time in my decades of online writings that someone has called them “one word or single line blurbs.” Of course, you meant it in a more general way, but that was where the link pointed.
Many people in that forum, as here, have thought long and hard about the movie WALL•E and its creators, and done so out of deep respect. The “Science” compendium was one of the results, but there are a lot of excellent resources there.
I invite you to check out that “Science of WALL•E” link, and many others; I think you’ll find that it is more than one-liners, and you will find yourself quite welcome there.
As I am hoping to be, here.
I do have a question, and some searches here have not borne fruit so far: Do you know of any official statement on the size of the Axiom?
Best wishes.
The size of the Axiom? Wow, that’s a pretty big question. There seems no mention of it on the extras on the DVD and that sort of thing, and the only way I can think of working it out would be to approximate the size of the shuttle that lands on Earth and that drops EVE off, and then to compare that in terms of ratio to the Axiom, though this method would probably be very inaccurate. I’m not sure how it would be possible to work it out, because even knowing approximate numbers for how many humans were on board and that sort of thing doesn’t take into account all of the ‘behind the scenes’ areas that the robots seem to inhabit.
And welcome to the forums, Level_Head! Looks like you’ve done some pretty spectacular work at the WALL-E Forum.
Your method was the first one I used for my own rough guesses. I used images of the ARV by Wall•E’s truck to guesstimate its size (approximately 200 feet long) and then images of the ARV Bay 02 on the Axion to go up from there. The numbers were astounding, and the smallest guesses were still astounding.
The other (double check) approach I used was the height of the two humans in the Axiom commercial near the beginning, and then to the corridor they are standing in, then that section of the ship et cetera frame-by-frame as the camera pulls away.
The same result.
The Axiom is, I think, between 2.5 and 3 miles long. Here are details:
walleforum.com/index.php?topic=2074.0
There are images comparing the Axiom to various other famous SF spacecraft.
A BnL short features gives 600,000 humans, 500,000 robots. The robots wouldn’t take up much space when not active.
Agreed.
What I was hoping for was that someone here had heard a comment made by Mr. Stanton or someone else at Pixar on an official size.
Thank you!
The film has affected me substantially, and its aftermath has been tremendously enjoyable for me. I have many new friends as a result.
Level_Head- 2.5 to 3 miles? I knew the Axiom was big, but that’s absolutely incredible. Where you’ve put other recognisable objects on that picture of the Axiom really puts it into proportion.
Yeah, I figured you might be looking for an official size. I wish the people over at Pixar could make some in-depth factfile with these sorts of figures for all of their Pixar films, like little things that Pixar fans would appreciate. But I guess that takes the fun out of trying to do it ourselves!
If we knew the size of Wall-E then we could calculate the size of the ship that had all the Eve probes in it, the ARV was it? Then use the size of the ARV to calculate the size or length of the Axiom.
If you took the size of the “real” Wall-E like the one ppl may have seen at the premiere, well that one’s about four feet, or if you want to get frustrated, take the size of a rubix cube and find the ratio of that to Wall-E boxed up, then boxed Wall-E to ARV, then ARV to the Axiom.
I think the rubix cube method would be far more accurate than real life Wall-E method. I would try to do that, but then I’d get pretty frustrated and probably pull the plug on it after trying to find the size for ARV.
That’s one approach, but it will provide only a very rough estimate because of the size difference.
The “real” Wall•E was a blow-up, significantly enlarged (and not all to the same scale) to look good on camera interacting with live people. Like the cardboard cutouts in the theater, that model was intentionally bigger than life.
According to Pixar, the trash cubes were about 14" – very close to a third of a meter. His cube, approached several ways (including your Rubix Cube suggestion) is a bit under half a meter. Less than 20", in any event. Numbers given for Wall•E’s “height” are confusing, as he can be exactly as tall as the cube itself, or extend legs, treads and neck to be more than three times that tall.
But I calculated the ARV at about 200 ft or 60 meters (based on comparisons when it was near Wall•E’s truck), which means that it’s only about one third as tall as the Washington Monument and a bit longer than a Space Shuttle orbiter (and much bigger around!).
This produces an Axiom length of between 4.5 and 5 kilometers – or about three miles.
And while composing this and looking at other details, I just found a Pixar staffer who confirmed my estimate of the size: he described it as “five kilometers”.
Holy cheese, you must be pretty patient…
Oh yeah I read that somewhere, can’t remember where, I’ve been to quite a few of Wall-E related sites. XD
But I did try the rubix cube one and I got stuck on the ARV.
LOL
Well, that’s one way to go… XD
And with that, it’s saying it would take me about 30 minutes to go across the Axiom…
That’s probably a fair statement.
Many new items have just been added to the Science of Wall•E compendium, from weather on the Axiom to the timeline of landing to how many Wall•E units were carried in his truck originally.[/img]
Hey I got a question, exactly how old is EVE??
Eve’s and Wall•E’s designs – and probably them as individuals – all apparently date back to before the launch of the Axiom. The ARV is designed to transport the probes in their current shape, and the ARV and its bay are part of the Axiom’s original equipment. Perhaps they are also part of the other, somewhat larger, cruise ships that we see in the film as part of Operation Exodus, but we don’t really know – we never get close enough to see ARV bay doors on the others.
I did something of an “origins” pre-story to Colony Crisis that shows something about the history – including the origin of Hal, the extraordinary cockroach, and how he is related to one of the captains of the Axiom.
The EVE planetary probes are essentially tiny, very sophisticated intelligent spacecraft and high-speed aircraft. WALL•E units are in comparison essentially small pieces of intelligent industrial equipment. This goes a long way toward explaining their quite different appearances and construction. The price difference between Eve and Wall•E could easily be a thousand to one, though each now holds the other beyond price.
Yeah, hats some good stuff, i didnt realize all that! Good post!
I have a question that has been bugging me for a while. Earth in WALL-E looks all polluted, but in the old commercials, the one with Shelby Forthright for example, the sky is blue. Are all those clouds and smog due to the rising toxicity levels (I mean, would the rising toxicity levels actually have a physical appearance?) or did the Earth look like that before the humans left?
It’s a good observation. There are certain curious discrepancies – for example, the air looks pretty thick from the ground, but the view from space showed a clear view of oceans and continents. Catching the timing right, this can work. And, as you suggested, it also depends on the nature of the toxic gases.
Atmospheric pollutants don’t have to be visible. There is a current rage to call carbon dioxide a “pollutant” – but whether that’s a fair classification or not, it is transparent (and not “toxic”).
The transparent aspect is true of real pollutants such as carbon monoxide and others.
Curiously, the LACK of carbon dioxide could kill off all plants on the Earth, and thus all life, and something like this might well have been involved. What we do see is that “global warming” (i.e. significant sea level rise) did not happen; the coastline of Florida is shown and is at the same level as today.
There’s another aspect, too. What we see is a commercial – and the blue sky could have been artistically recreated by BnL to create the perception that things outside are on their way to improvement already.