I think Toy Story was/is very mature for an animated film of it’s time. It had a lot of dirty jokes. I wouldn’t call that safe. 
Pretty much this. It’s extremely hard for Disney to even meet these expectations because most of their fans are stuck in the Renaissance period that it’s unlikely (or very hard, even though they try to) that they’re going to embrace any of their newer animated musicals with open arms. And depending if you grew up with those films or not, nostalgia will also have the biggest impact on how people judge these films.
Honestly, this is why movies like Princess and the Frog and Tangled aren’t meant for us. They’re meant for the newer generation of children who’re also being introduced to Disney as we speak. They’re going to grow up with both of these movies, sing the songs and hold them very close to their hearts, just like how all of us did with the Renaissance films.
Except that part is actually in the original tale of Rapunzel. Granted the Prince [spoil]doesn’t actually get stabbed. He gets thrown into a bush full of thorns and goes blind, and Rapunzel heals his eyesight with her tears as she cries over him. Disney was trying to be faithful to the original story in their own way[/spoil].
Wow, really? Not even the boat/lantern scene? 
(as much as the story was easy to predict, there were actually some surprises here and there, plus I actually choked up during that part a lot. Yes I’m such a sensitive soul, lmfao~ hides in shame)
I loved Tangled, as did our whole family (kids age 6 and 7). It’s great to expose kids to any good material, which can be found in all eras of Disney. The PG elements were very minimal, but we appreciated the heads-up.
Lush look in every frame, clear and engaging storyline, pleasant music, all in all a total package of high-quality entertainment. Disney did right by itself for #50.
Cheers! Steve
Agreeing with Steve!
Wait, Toy Story had dirty jokes?
The problem with that is that many other Disney fans seem to have the impression that “if it ain’t fairy tales or whatever, it ain’t nothing but crap.” Sucks, but…you know.
I think my problem is that…well, if you asked me two years ago if I was more of a Pixar fan or a Disney fan, I would say the former in less than a heart beat. These days…don’t get me wrong, I ADORE Pixar. They’re some of the greatest animated movies of all time (and that’s an understatement). But I love musicals, fairy tales, simple love stories, and period films, so I usually gravitate towards traditional Disney a biiit more.
But I do agree, I think if Disney went into some different, lesser known stories from other cultures, like Mulan, they could make some truly great films!
Dirty jokes aren’t really daring, they are actually extremely safe in their own way. They’re safe because they’re easy to write, and writers can stick in a lot of adult humor to keep them entertained through an otherwise childish film. A daring move is to put very, very little dirty jokes (I think the worst joke in Tangled was [spoil]Flynn implying he got drunk throughout the entire celebration and didn’t remember it.[/spoil]) and only depend on your own talent and wit to entertain adults.
[spoil]" Why don’t I get someone else to watch the sheep tonight? Remember, I’m only a couple of blocks away…"[/spoil]
[spoil]“I think I found my moving buddy.”[/spoil]
TS2:
Buzz’s wings pop out when Jessie opens the door for Buster. Take that as you wish.
…Always wondered why that elicited a larger amount of laughter from adults. I took it more as a jaw drop, but I guess TV Tropes is there to prove me wrong.
I said in one of my posts that I thought the lanterns were one of the most visually stunning parts in the movie! But I’m talking more about the story, not the visuals… Disney isn’t lacking in that department at all.
I wasn’t criticizing the original story of Rapunzel, which I don’t even remember at all. (spoiler in case I ruin anything for those who haven’t seen it!)
The fact of the matter is that scene is similar to one in Beauty and the Beast and so I knew everything that was going to happen (right down to what happens to Rapunzel’s hair, but that’s not related, haha) and was sitting there waiting for it to show on screen.
Maybe that’s why Disney is moving away from fairy tales for the most part… as much as I love their past work with fairy tales, it’s starting to hold them back from creating exciting stories because so much of it has been done before. I was so, so excited when I heard about Tangled and The Princess and the Frog being made, but you know what? The fairy tale label probably won’t excite me anymore like it used to. I’d rather Disney churn out the best movies possible, even if that means not having any songs or princesses. Blasphemy, I know!
But I agree, and have thought for the past 15 years (since I was very little! Haha), that Disney has a huge reputation to live up to. They’ve set the par very high. If I made it sound like I was outright bashing Tangled, I didn’t mean to, as it’s one of their best from the last 10 years. They’ve made clear improvements since Meet the Robinsons and they’ve been getting better and better with each movie. That said, as much as I adore Disney and race to the theaters to see each of their new animated movies on opening day, I still want them to do the best that they can do. Now, they can’t churn out a Beauty and the Beast every year; that’s understandable. But I still think they can push themselves even further…
Yeah I know you weren’t. But I was just pointing out that the ending of Tangled is somewhat faithful to the ending of the story that it was adapted from, which is Rapunzel. Same thing with Beauty and the Beast too. In both of the original fairy tales, both heroine’s weep over their loved ones at the end, until some sort of a magical/mythical element occurs which heals their love interests. Disney stayed true to that (while having their own spin on it, of course), which is probably why they seem similar.
I happened to study both of these fairy tales in my English Literature class last semester, so I was just pointing out why they seem similar in that sense.
Also, as much as they are similar, there’s a notable difference to how the princes were healed in the original and the Disney versions. In Beauty and the Beast, [spoil]it’s Belle’s love for the beast that restores the Prince back to life, not her tears[/spoil]. And in Tangled [spoil]Rapunzel’s tears heals Flynn’s wounds, which is actually faithful to the original story of Rapunzel, because in that version Rapunzel also happens to heal the Prince’s blindness with her tears.[/spoil]
Yes. Though just to be clear, they’re not actually giving up on fairy tales. 
They’re only taking a long hiatus from them right now to focus on new concepts for their stories, and also because they currently don’t have any fairy tale movies in the pipeline for release at the moment. Most likely this will change in the near future.
Yes, I know you weren’t bashing Tangled. xD I just love deep discussions with other board members a lot, haha. I didn’t mean to imply that either (I didn’t see anything in your post that even suggested hate or bashing. You were giving a fair critique, and I wanted to discuss it with you).
Don’t know if I wrote about this before, but I read The Art of Tangled, which is a very good book - talks briefly about the original fairy tale too. I wrote a bit about the book here: onemoviefiveviews.wordpress.com/ … f-tangled/
It’s one worth at least flipping through in a book store, even if you don’t buy it. (Since it is an expensive hardcover…)
- E
I managed to snag this for $20 when a Border’s employee told me she could take a Black Friday coupon out of the trash and reuse it. It was for half off any item, schwiiiiing! So I got it for $20, which isn’t bad. But I see most of the Art of… books are only ~$26 on Amazon. I will also vouch that it’s a good book and worth looking through.
I also can’t believe that Glen Keane’s daughter is so talented. That family is crazy.
I ordered this book on amazon a week before the film’s release. I haven’t had time to go through the content because of school, but I was flipping through some of the pages and realized how absolutely gorgeous the artwork is. <3 I’m on break now, so I can’t wait to sit down today with a cup of hot cocoa and actually read it. It’ll be really fascinating!
Also, I know this technically doesn’t have anything to do with the movie, but…
^ Whenever I’ve imagined being in a scenario where I have to fight someone, I thought–frying pans, yes! So I was happy to see them used in Tangled. Perfect weapon.
Haha, seeing them get used brought back memories of playing EarthBound and Super Mario RPG where the lead female party member attacks with a frying pan. 
Good times.
I’m not interested enough to see it but I have watched clips on Youtube(some of which are spoilers) and the movie looks really cute…FlynnxRapunzel= <3
Dear God, I’ve missed A LOT.
But in the hiatus it’s clear what my new obsession is…
I’ll add my bit to the countless fan-gushes here and say I throughly enjoyed Disney’s 50th animated feature last week. 
I’ll write a lengthier review when I can find the time to compose my thoughts.
One question, though (which I’m too lazy to trawl back to see if it’s been asked in spoiler tags):
[spoil]Why didn’t Flynn wait till after Rapunzel had healed him before cutting her hair?[/spoil]
So, I watched Tangled yesterday and I admit that, early this year, I doubted it would be a good movie. But over time, while I was reading this topic, I began to warm up to this film and now I’m glad to say that I was wrong all those months ago. For me it was a great movie with gorgeous visuals, likable characters, a good story and great music. The only complaint I have is that sometimes, it felt a little rushed.
But overall, a beautiful movie that I really enjoyed
I don’t think this has been discussed here yet. My interpretation: [spoil]Rapunzel made a promise to Gothel that, if Gothel would allow her to heal Flynn, Rapunzel would stay with her. Flynn (and we) knew from earlier that Rapunzel said she never broke a promise. Once Rapunzel healed him, she would be sworn to stay with Gothel, so Flynn probably felt that he couldn’t let her heal him. Now, yeah, logically, Gothel wouldn’t need to keep Rapunzel once her hair was gone, and without the magic, Gothel was going to die anyway, but Flynn probably wasn’t thinking all that through at the time… [/spoil]
At least, that’s the best explanation I can come up with.
What karly05 said makes sense, but also [spoil]to show that Flynn truly loved her so much that he sacrificed himself for her. [/spoil]