I completely agree with thedriveintheater. I didn’t see any problems with the book, if you don’t like it or find it offensive, just don’t read it.
I have the book. I didnt’ really find anything wrong with it. If I had to pick something out, I’d say it was really expensive. But then again are the majority of coffee table books are expensive.
I personally don’t think the "Friendship Page’ was saying if you don’t have friends you should kill yourself. I just re read it. it’s just says who’s friends with who in the movies. It’s not that big of a deal to me. Hating a book is a bit extreme, it’s just a book to be honest. If you don’t like it, just don’t like it, whatever. But start a whole thread about it? But to each their own, right?
Have seen it in a book shop, naturally went to check up a few things and movies like Monsters Inc and wasn’t impressed or in agreement with it.
It’s not worth the money really at all.
Expensive and didn’t give an objective viewpoint really. More trying to make people think things their way than encouraging real thinking. It’s not a book for deep thinking and doesn’t show much of it itself. But then perhaps that’s expecting a bit much? I don’t know.
But I think people can hate books and start threads on them in any case. Discussion can be good. There’s something to be learned from books whether they’re terrible, brilliant or simply mediocre even. You can ask WHY this book caused you to think or feel a certain way whether it’s positive or negative.
Books and other media (as well as just other general opinions especially surrounding fiction) in my view should be used as SPRINGBOARDS for ideas at best and shouldn’t be used to do all your thinking for you anyway. Which unfortunatly I got the distinct impression of from the book.
But any amount of time spent with an english student will tell you that sort of thinking is just setting yourself up for failure. Interpretations are things you can reference yes but you have to show your own thinking too. You also have to show WHY you think that, and you can’t just simply say it as if its indespuitable fact and leave it like that. That is not how it works. Just because ‘X’ says something about a piece of fiction doesn’t mean it actually is true or even makes sense in context. Opinions can be valuable, but only when informed or showing critical thinking skills when it comes to interpretations. And the only true canon is what is in the movies anyway.
But yeah it probably is a ‘coffee table book’ nothing deep or anything like that about, pretty superficial all and all and they could do better. It’s not a reliable form of reference.
You should probably still look at it before writing it off. People exaggerate things when they’re complaining, so you should probably check to see what it was actually saying. It could have just been stressing that friends can be extremely important, which I agree with.
I agree. I respect The Chicken Man’s opinion, but I think he’s exaggerating a big.
I have the book on my lap right now, opened to the friendship page
“Best friends come in all kinds of crazy shapes and sizes in the world of Disney*Pixar, bt one thing they all have in common is that t hey look out for each other and can always be counted on in times of need”
Where in that paragraph does it imply if you have no friends you mind as well should kill yourself? All it’s saying is that In Pixar movies, the characters have friends that are they count on. Not in the real life people have to have friends.
Then the next page says Carl and Russell are friends and they learn from each other, and that Linguini and Remy’s friendship stirs up the Culinary World. And so on and so forth. It’s not that big of a deal if you ask me.
I agree with you on encouraging discussion, especially on literature which are deemed as ‘bad’ by the general community. However, it seems that the thread-starter deliberately wrote a ‘hate thread’ (as is implied in the title) listing the bad points only, which not only smacks of one-sided biases, but of narrow-minded ignorance as well. Maybe it would’ve been less offensive if the title was simply ‘Opinions on Pixarpedia’.
I do agree with you on the bit about it being expensive, though.
I know you don’t mean to come off this way, but this is not a very logical argument. It’s like reading a page from a book advising against smoking, and I happen to be a smoker, and because of that, I feel vindicated and say that I hate this book. Or I see a page of a super-ripped bodybuilder, and I’m thin and scrawny (which I am ), and because of that, I feel insulted and say they don’t understand my situation and shouldn’t show pictures of healthy, strong people.
That’s what I suspected. Thanks for confirming, ellie-jessie-eve.
I didn’t mean to be ignorant. All I’m saying is that if TCM is like me, he probably gets easily worked up about what others see as nothing. For example, when someone says they don’t like Elastigirl, most people just take it as their opinion. For me, I lash out at the person. I’m working on that, but my point is that “we” get very irritated over very “silly” things, and I can see why TCM specifically would have been offended. However, yes, I suppose a two-sided thread could garner a more healthy, less negative discussion.
I agree with thedriveintheatre on this; I feel uncomfortable with threads like these, on really any forum.
I got Pixarpedia for my birthday, and I fully enjoyed it. Fine if you dislike it, but I got a lot out of it, and it looks awesome on my shelf. People are hard to please…
Okay, here’s what I think about this book: I love it. It is a very well-written book and it is packed with info. But we forget, DK wrote this book FOR KIDS. The intended age group is about 5-9. While it is a great book, it, in essence, is a children’s book. So lay off it.
To be completely honest, I quite like PixarPedia, which I even gave as a gift to a friend because I liked it that much! It’s meant to be for light reading, and it wss never intended to be an in-depth analysis of the films.
I personally recommend it, and I think it’s worth the money.
I’ve changed the title of the thread to a more neutral stance. Feel free to debate on why you hate or love the book, but don’t get antagonistic, peeps!
I just got the book today, and I love it so far. I just have a question though. Is there really a page that tells you to go kill yourself if you don’t have any friends?
I love the Pixarpedia, but I still have one criticism: The UP section has entries for what must be everyone in the entire movie (even the “alarm clock” frog at the campsite) except Russell’s Mom! I know she’s on screen for a matter of seconds, but they should have put in a little picture of her and identified her!
Geoff: I know right? But apperently some people say you have to read between the lines and that Pixar is saying that if you have no friends your a loser. Which is not true.
karly: You know what? I noticed that too! Really weird, they had like so many less characters but they managed to miss her!
I received “Pixarpedia” last year for Christmas, and it is an AMAZING book! Why in the world would people find it offensive? Because it goes into specific details about Pixar’s great themes? Because it showcases different characters personalities and special traits? Because it presents an in-depth view of the look and settings of all the films? What is so wrong about it? NOTHING!
Andrew Stanton, one of my top favorite Pixar writers, welcomes the book’s readers with a personal prologue. If the creative minds and geniuses at Pixar didn’t agree or wish to promote the book, why would someone like Andrew Stanton present it in the beginning?
It is a wonderful piece of visual art - both for a child’s eye and older Pixar fans alike! I love the huge blow-up movie stills from each of the films, and I wish I could hang them all over my room! LOL!
For fellow Pixar fans out there who are looking for a great big book that dives deep into the beautiful, inspiring, visually entertaining, and priceless quality of Pixar films…THIS IS THE BOOK!
Well, you have to see things from The Chicken Man’s POV.
Personally, I have never seen this book in person, so I am not judging it. But you can’t really understand where he’s coming from, because you’re different from him. Now, this sounds awful, but bear with me. People like us, the Chicken Man and I I mean, are bothered by very abnormal things. Individuals with Asperger’s are very sensitive, and extremely anti-social, in many cases. I personally get very annoyed when people I don’t know well approach me or ask to go places/do stuff with me. We don’t like being told to have friends, or what type of friends to have. Now, I am not saying Pixar Pedia says you have to have so many friends. I haven’t read it. But instead of attacking him, maybe you should think about that.
), and because of that, I feel insulted and say they don’t understand my situation and shouldn’t show pictures of healthy, strong people.
