I wouldn’t call it brave. I would call it irresponsible. Creating miserable plots in movies for children, coming with popculture gags, stereotypes and plot-twists directly aimed at the adults in the audience, that’s like…err i dont know. cheating.
I mean, one can still love this film with all right but i just dont think brave is the right word.
To me, giving the toys to Bonnie does one thing in the long run: CREATES THE SAME PROBLEM AGAIN IN 10 YEARS. Say what you want, I care not. But now Bonnie will grow up, and the toys will have to suffer this once more. Not in another movie, but it will happen in their universe.
Haha! So true. Never thought about that.
Did we even watch the same movie? I swear…
It was brave to take the toys away from their owner. Brave to make audiences believe that maybe, just maybe our main characters could get incinerated at the end was brave. Do you even know the definition of the word? Going the Andy gives them to his kids or something would have been the safe route. Having Andy stay basically the same age and having just another rescue Buzz adventure would have been safe.
And what pop culture references are you talking about? The mention of eBay? Seriously? That site is a couple months older than Toy Story itself. Its ingrained in our culture and doesn’t look to be going anywhere anytime soon.
If not eBay, what other references are we talking about?
Also, I take issue with your movies for children claim. Pixar has always said they don’t make movies for children, they just make sure there’s nothing they can’t handle in them. Good movies appeal to everyone, and this movie most certainly does/did.
As for the whole Bonnie thing, look, they already learned in TS2 and 3 that their life is only worth living if their being loved by a kid. so they would rather live short fulfilling lives than be immortal yet never played with again. Going to live with another kid means they get another lifetime (for a toy) in a kids hands. Will they face this issue again? Sure. But they’ll be better equipped to handle it this time. They could also hop on over to sunnyside now that Lotso’s gone if needed.
Nah, her mom works at the day care, right? Bonnie can always donate her old toys there when she’s older/tired of playing with toys. Thing is, though, that our favorite gang will not last another 10 years, in a literal sense. They’ve been there since Andy is a kid, so expect a toy to last a total of 20-30 years is just impossible.
Yeah, I think you need to calm down a bit. Firstly, the entire formula from the previous two movies, á la the main characters gets separated from Andy and must find their way back and overcome some sort of antagonist (psychopathic kid, old miner - something, Lotso). How is that brave? Repeating the same successful formula in sequels is usually considered playing it safe.
Having a character almost dying in the end is not brave. We’ve seen this in countless movies for children. Bolt for example, and in my opinion, the ending of Bolt was still about ten times more touching than the ending in Toy Story 3. But hey, that’s just me.
You speak as if there was some kind of consensus that this movie is impossible to criticize. Now perhaps you should look up the definition of pop-culture references. 
Now they know how to deal with it next time. The thing is that lives of Toys are different from humans. Theirs is a cycle, and the purpose is to make toys happy. I think it’s great they created memories for Andy, will for Bonnie, and eventually for a nother child, I see nothing wrong with that.
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Nah, her mom works at the day care, right? Bonnie can always donate her old toys there when she’s older/tired of playing with toys. Thing is, though, that our favorite gang will not last another 10 years, in a literal sense. They’ve been there since Andy is a kid, so expect a toy to last a total of 20-30 years is just impossible.[/quote]
You’re right; that never occured to me. 
Okay, you win. I give up. Because, I’m done saying bad stuff, since I wrote a letter to Lee Unkrich and received an autograph. I don’t want to be a hypocrit. 
I’m not shouting, just raising a brow really. And You still can’t point to the pop culture refs you were talking about? A pop culture reference to me would mean putting a transformer as a toy in there, or something else that would really date the movie in a few years. I saw nothing like that.
The closest thing to pop culture I spotted were the iPod and the Apple computer. Unless you mean some toy or something, but most of the toys were fictional or timeless.
Well i really didn’t like it to much I mean it’s good but it just isn’t my taste of movies.
So I guess PixarPlanet didn’t feel like submitting my last post. Oh well, it was long, and I’m not going to attempt to rewrite it, but it was going off what Kyle said last; adult humor has been there since the original Toy Story. It was kind of a different perspective, since the majority of us have seen it as kids, and gradually got all of the adult jokes, whereas with Toy Story 3, it’s all there, except you understand it on the first viewing now.
There’s no winning in opinions! (Unless one opinion hurts or restricts the life of others. Than that opinion fails like Soviet Russia). How do you think you were being a hypocrite? Just curious!
IncredigirlVirginia, you really need to have more faith in your opinions and not back down so easily. Unless you are insulting the person on a personal level, or you believe in something totally immoral (like it’s okay to steal things from people or something), then you are perfectly entitled to your own beliefs. You’ve got to make a stand! puts on King Leonidas Spartan-face 
Oh, and I’d love to see your autograph from Lee Unkrich, IV! Why is everyone so lucky and getting autographs nowadays? looks at little_chef and pixarfan9099
I want to post it, but I don’t have a working camera. 
It looks just like Pixarfan’s, only it says Virginia, instead of Forster. And thanks. It’s just I don’t want to come off too strongly and offend someone. 
EJE: By a hypocrit, I meant I should stop nay saying TS3 since the director just sent me an autograph.
Pop culture is generally defined as a ”contemporary lifestyle and items that are wellknown and generally accepted, cultural patterns that are widespread within a population”
As such, any reference or joke based on references to movies and media, cultural works or common stereotypes we all recognize from our society can be considered a pop-culture reference. And while Toy Story 3 certainly isn’t ridden with such gags, much unlike many other Post-Shrek animations, I can’t help to feel that TS3 represents a stoop in Pixar quality.
I’m not only talking about things like the conspicuous Totoro plushy I kept seeing in the film but the jokes in general feel very cheap and adultish, at least compared to earlier Pixar that used to distinguish themselves with an higher quality as compared to DreamWorks (for example) As mentioned, Buzz’s surprisingly distasteful Spanish-mode, the dumb blond and Ken – an obvious reference to the “common”, girly closet-homo in self-denial typecast – called me old-fashioned but I just don’t think that this sort of humor belongs in a movie for children. In way, the entire plot felt like one big pop-culture reference from the point that the toys reach the daycare center, when the story was transformed into a confused mix of funny, prison break parodies, directly aimed the adults in the audience who are expected to understand the many references to classical, prison break movies (all the characters and elements are there, we even have the inside snitch in the form of a talking plastic phone).
No, I think that I prefer the family-friendly, subtle humor of Bolt. On the other hand, Bolt has been described as boring and bland by other moviegoers, so it really is all about personal perspectives.
But I just can’t escape the feeling that, as I’ve mentioned so many times before, that the characters in TS3 are not quite being treated with respect. I feel that this movie really didn’t explore the personalities of many of the toys like in the earlier films. Instead, they were mostly there to amuse us (Buzz was a perfect example of this)
Sure, the audience might get some laughs out of the furry, delusional Bolt’s failed attempts to use his superpowers – but the climax of this story is the love we feel for the characters and to see them develop
Sorry to once again pollute this thread with this kind of negative ranting but I think Kyle’s questions rather required some further explanation on my part.
Ok, let me tell you what I think your trying to be here. You are one of those people who always needs to be on the opposite side of other peoples opinions. When something is on top your need to be a “cool” kid and rant against it. TS3 was a masterpiece, but no, you need to hate on it and like a forgettable movie like Bolt. I may be wrong, it is just a theory. Just my two cents on all this.
Can I play peacekeeper here? Seriously. What is so wrong with people having differing opinions? Come on, guys!! Get over yourselves and respect that everyone likes different movies!
Hey, most people think that it’s weird that I like strange puzzle video games that no one around here plays, but they can’t say anything to me that will change how much I like them. If they think it’s stupid, well, they need to get over it.
What I’m saying is all of you have different taste. Don’t get angry with anyone else for not liking what you like. Hey, if he likes a seemingly “forgettable” movie like Bolt, so be it! (Personally, I thought Bolt was quite adorable. Just sayin’.)
But really. Just reading through this thread makes me upset because it seems as though no one is respecting anyone else’s opinion, and I, personally, have a problem with that.
I wasn’t trying to sound harsh, but I felt that needed to be out there. I also feel as though I have said this a million times on these forums… even though it’s a Pixar forum, people still like other movies as well, and we need to respect that. Is that so hard to ask?
Okay, okay. I’ll stop now.
You’re right, DoE.
But I don’t really think TS3 is a stoop in quality. You may dislike it, but that’s not grounds on which to call it bad.
Daughter of Eve: Thank you. Seeing people get so angry in this thread is ridiculous. I try to be open to other opinions as long as they have a valid basis, but some people are taking it personally it seems.