As I’ve mentioned in the Oscars thread, it was entirely coincidental. The Academy wanted to pay tribute to the film that won the first Animated Ghetto, which was Shrek. Nobody was 100% certain Toy Story 3 would win (except for the vote counters and the typist of the announcement paper), and if HTTYD had won, it would’ve been all the more poignant. But hmmm… Toy Story 3 won, so yeah.
I was more miffed that they said “We need an animated background!” and it was just a boring still. Was expecting Shrek, Puss and Donkey to walk down the road at some point, but sorry, no cigar.
Zinem- I still prefer Wall-E to Bolt (and Wall-E, if anything else, should’ve won Best Score, because quite frankly I feel bad for Tom Newman for getting 10 nominations and 0 wins, and it was an epic score, but thats another story altogether lol ), but I agree that Bolt deserved something. It was a good film, and if anything, a step-up for Disney after so many years of badly marketed, rushed films that tarnished their reputation.
But thats the Animation Ghetto for you. They deny a brilliant animated film (Ratatouille, Wall-E, Up & TS3 especially) for Best Picture because of the perception of animated films, and they give it the Best Animated Feature as a constolation prize, which means said film doesn’t really get what it deserves and also other animated films that are also good, sometimes better, get pushed aside and win nothing. It’s shambolic, but I’m hoping those days are starting to end now Pixar have had BP noms 2 years in a row. And also, animation is having a slow but profound effect on the Oscars in general. In 2001, they added Best Animated Feature because Chicken Run was snubbed, and they increased the Best Picture list from 5 to 10 in 2010 because Wall-E was snubbed. It’s getting there, methinks.
I am never watching Wall-E. Ever since I heard that is has very little dialogue, I was against it. Pixar cannot create a Tom and Jerry like cartoon with a robot that cleans up trash. Plus, I heard that there’s live-action footage in the beginning. A movie that is not 100% animated made by Pixar is bad.
Second, ever since seeing the second Pixar movie I was against seeing - first because of the concept and secondly because of the terrible art - and discovering that it was a god-awful film, and not even close to Pixar-worthy, I am now completely against Wall-E. The film I speak of here is Up. There is nine minutes at the beginning that makes you think you are in for a treat. I believe people refer to this segment as “Married Life.” Coupled with that fact that it was nominated for Best Picture, I relented and gave it a chance. Unfortunately, I was correct in my previous assumption. It was a terrible movie.
Shrek was good in its own time. But I tried watching it again last year. It is ruined by butt jokes and the fact that the entire purpose of the film is to ridicule Disney and turn them on their head.
You dislike Wall-E, but you freely admit to never watching it?
Yeah…sorry, can’t get my head round that. I mean, if you disliked it and had actually seen the film, then fair enough. But just…
Whoops…sorry, I did not mean to trash Wall-E. I was trying to say simply that after seeing one Pixar film I was against seeing in the first place, and discovering it was awful after all, I have no patience with another Pixar film I am also against seeing.
However, Wall-E does fit the Pixar mold in terms of concept, whereas Up does not. So maybe I should give it a chance anyway.
A song that is barely noticeable…more enjoyable than songs that are right in front of your face?
I’m serious, I watched that film three times and the segment which has the song six times and I didn’t even notice there was a song. Why? Because it sounds like a crap song from an existing band, and it is not something you can sing, really. It’s lyrics fail to strike a chord.
And it was Randy Newman’s weakest effort. There is no way anything Randy Newman can cook up, especially when he’s not even trying, should beat an Alan Mencken song.
I know good art when I see it, and music in an animated film is a type of art. When it is impossible to even notice the music unless someone tells you it’s there, it might as well not exist.
But whatever. The Oscars are bogus. I mean, the only way the Oscars can be legitimate (besides their choice for Best Animated Picture…I mean, Pixar winning four years in a row means they can do SOMETHING right), is if Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 wins Best Picture next year. Because all films produced this year will fail in comparison to that one.
But I guess the Oscars are to movies the way Newberry Medals are to children’s books. The book that won the medal the year Ella Enchanted was released is a piece of crap that most children wouldn’t care for. Ella Enchanted, on the other hand, is a thoroughly enjoyable book for kids. But Ella Enchanted only got Newberry Honor, which means it was runner-up.
Wall-E is one of the best movies Pixar has ever made. In my opinion it goes:
Toy Story
Wall-E
Up
…
I can not advise you enough to go see it. The live action footage is merely a scene from a movie that provides Wall-E with his main tune. I personally think you can not even be a member of this site if you havent seen Wall-E…
I agree if your letting the little bits of live action in WALL-E spoil the movie for you then you are missing out big time.Go watch it now if u havent seen it yet.
sorry for telling you this, but why are you doing what others say?, you are the one that is acting like a robot, give WALL-E a chance, for me it is the most beautiful love story ever told, and this is saying someone who is 22 years old, who dislikes romantic films