Toy Story 3 Academy Award for Best Picture

Ellie’s point was exactly Spielberg’s speech. Every one of the ten nominees is the Best Picture of the year.

And Bryko, I didn’t hate The Social Network (despite my hatred of Facebook). I actually liked the movie a lot, though I wouldn’t want it to win.

I wasn’t expecting TS3 to get best pic on any level. But at least it got best animated. :smiley: And song.

And you’re forgetting a very important nomination, that few people here talk about: Script.

Most Pixar films to date have been nominated for Best Script. That’s one of their greatest achievements.

That’s true. It just never came to mind for me.

Personally, I’m not far from the overall non-PixPlanet consensus: Social Network and King’s Speech were at the very least extraordinary films, and no other films came close, and one of these two deserved to win the little gold thingee. Yes TS3 was an excellent movie. The producers of SN have many times had to reassure peeps that there was much artistic license in their film, even tho it went as far as to partially defame a national icon (a real person) for the sake of a good script, their rep and megabucks (just not too many, as it never went over $100M domestic). Yes KS was sentimental, but it didn’t win because it was sentimental or some Lifetime Achievement Award or guilt complex.

I saw an episode on tv the other day, which broached this issue, not sure what show it was as I don’t watch much tv, but it seemed they were borrowing material from the dilemma surrounding The Social Network. There were lawyers addressing the various sides of the issue and a suit was at hand, and it was somehow settled; First Amendment rights vs. making bucks and whether someone is a justifiable Public Figure and if he was purposefully defamed for the purpose of lining pockets and getting ‘rep’ in the industry.

Night and Day just wasn’t that good, IMHO, most Pixar shorts over the years have been better, opinions will vary.

^^Who’s hating on The Social Network, I loved that film!

Anyway, I hope PIXAR one day gets a BP award for one of its films, it totally deserves it much more than any other studio on the planet. Although, to be perfectly honest, I think the only film they’ve announced that has a slimmer of even being nominated is Brave.

BTW, love your new signature and avatar Spirit Of Adventure! Is that Pokéfont?

I agree with y’all that Kirk was definitely the highlight of the evening. I didn’t catch his rib at Australians and Hugh Jackman, but I’m sure it was funny! Love that little ‘grab the cane’ game he played with the person whose name I’ve forgotten already. Is there a name for that game? I thought I saw it done on Bee Movie before with Barry and a mosquito for a car antenna.

Anyway, good point about being a nominee is an achievement in itself, EJE and SoA. I like the idea of TS3 in the same rank as Raging Bull, which I should remind myself to see one day.

Thanks for the insight, DarkHand. I had a feeling there will be a lawsuit on the way with the things they said and got away with on TSN. How much of it is fact or dramatised is kinda murky, but I couldn’t care less. It was compelling drama, and like Oprah said, we go to the movies to escape, unlike say, documentaries.

And I know I keep bashing TSN here (and if you’re offended, sorry, Bryko), but I want to say this: It’s a very good drama, and a great film. It’s just that you have to take into account my personal bias against Facebook, and the fact that the characters didn’t come off as charming to me, or how the underlying cynicism about friendship didn’t gel with me. That your closest mates can backstab you, that you can be obsessive and go over the edge if you’re not careful, that sort of thing- it felt like a moral cautionary tale, or a sermon.

Toy Story 3, with its message about “the inevitability of change, and the friendships that last forever”, as the presenter whose name escapes me at the moment said during the Awards, was more life-affirming. How to Train Your Dragon, about loving the enemy, and how your conviction and actions can change your community, and even the world. Inception, about accepting your mistakes, and how forgiving yourself can be the ultimate act of redemption. The King’s Speech - the healing power of love, and the duty one is bound to when thrust with immense power. Legend of the Guardians, about being a hero and doing noble deeds… and stuff. They filled me with hope and joy, but TSN didn’t. But again, this is simply my personal opinion.

Point is, I’m glad that all these films, TSN included, got a Nom. But ultimately, only one could be the winner. What matters in the end is which films touched us the most, and not what other people or some Academy thinks.

I’m hoping Pixar breaks the ceiling with Brave next year. BTW, a lot of people seem to be bemoaning about Day and Night’s failure, but how many of the other nominees have you actually seen? Mmm? :neutral_face:

No, it’s another font, but also a Pokémon font.

:frowning:

Some people do, but I just can’t agree with her generalization.

Kevin Spacey.

I’ve seen them. On the technical level none is as groundbreaking as Day & Night. That’s why I was sure it was going to get it.

I was happy with the awards. I guess. I knew that TS3 had no chance for Best Picture, but if it couldn’t win I was so happy that The King’s Speech did. The Social Network was not my type of movie. It was just really blah to me. I Eisenburg (spelling?) did a great job though. Other than that, it made me never want to use my Facebook ever again. He was just horrible and I don’t want to endorse it. But whatever, I still will :smiley:

I was shocked when Randy won! He was the best speech of the night for me, but I don’t know if that’s just because I love Randy or not. And seeing John and Lee together was cool! I’ve never really watched the awards before, so I was squealing every time their faces came on. In real life. It was cool. I’m not gonna lie, I wanted Tangled to win. But I was so happy for Randy!

And it really bothered me that Shrek was the background for when Lee accepted his award. Hmph.

And I love your sig and avatar, Spirit!

I know, I was burning inside.

Well I guess we showed em. And it also really bothered me when they said “This background has to be animated!” Or something. I don’t know. Shouldn’t we be treated like every other movie?? Gosh darn it :slight_smile:

Oh, and I also loved Randy’s speech. It’s curious, because last year’s best speech was undeniably Giacchino’s.

That is weird! I remember I was supposed to be asleep last year and listening to my parent’s TV and hearing him and freaking out cause he won :smiley: There must be something about the musically inclined… :smiley:

The way I function about defeats, is initially I am crushed, but then I get over it. My mind says one thing, but my heart says another. I know, I KNOW deep down and truly, that it was a long shot for an animated film to get Best Picture. But my heart will burn so passionately about this movie, that it is sometimes hard to think logically when my heart says another.

So, let me get out what my heart is saying first.
Maybe I’m taking this too seriously, but I was really crushed Sunday night when we lost Best Picture. History could’ve been made, and Toy Story 3 would’ve been the first animated Best Picture. It deserved it - it’s obvious a massive amount of people liked it, like Lee said, “in historic numbers”. :frowning: Yet this loss spells in my head that animated films are really a minority as far as the Academy is concerned. I was very dissapointed when Toy Story 3 didn’t win. If any film ever in Pixar… or the world’s history of animation, ever deserved Best Picture… it was Toy Story 3. And what’s sad is the fact that it’s unlikely any other film will be that good, that deserving of Best Picture, to ever come from Pixar again. Toy Story 3 was Pixar’s crown jewel… and it lost, thanks to a bunch of pompous old windbags who don’t recognize animated films as a “true” film. Yeah, we won Best Animated Feature - but we almost ALWAYS win that. :\

Now for what my mind says, paraphrased from Toy Story 3 itself.
First off, we all knew Operation: Playtime was a long shot. Maybe it was a misfire. But Pixar didn’t make that movie just to see how much the Academy will like it - it’s about a movie that was about entertaining audiences with a smart, funny, and touching story. I knew that from the start, but I got my hopes up for nothing. As for Best Picture for an animated film, I’m calling it personally. I’m closing up shop - Cars 2 wasn’t a favorite universally like Toy Story 3 was, and let’s face it, it probably won’t be nominated for Best Picture. And hey, we won Best Animated Picture. Maybe I’m spoiled by Pixar always winning. But obviously, the Academy was considering Toy Story 3 - it was nominated, after all. That’s a big honor as it is.

Yeah, I thought that was lame too. But it was fitting, since they were talking about the first film to win Best Animated Feature. Imagine what it would of been like of Monsters, Inc would of won. That would of been a really cool background.

Nicely put Chopperface. PIXAR deserved that award more than any other film, animated or live action, and even though it wasn’t very likely they would win deep down I sort of kept hoping the Academy would do the unexpected and award it to them. Well, I guess there’s not much for PIXAR to do but to get their parts together and go out on a high note, like they always do.

Now come on, let’s go see how much the reject Oscars are going for on eBay

BTW anyone checked youtube recently for the Oscar Thank You Cam of Lee Unkrich and Randy Newman? Lee name drops a lot of people in his video, including all his Twitter fans :smiley:

^ I never understood how that happened. Monsters, Inc. was a better film in every way.

Toy Story 3 won Best Original Song undeservedly. I watched the film three times and didn’t even notice there WAS a song. Except for “You’ve Got a Friend in Me” at the beginning, as a Tribute to the original film.

Tangled should have won. Tangled is the first Disney movie in YEARS that deserved an award. (Well, actually I would have given Bolt the award in Oscars 2009, but that’s beside the point.)

The only6 reason Toy Story won this award was to apologize for not giving it Best Picture.

Even Randy Newman admitted that this song wasn’t that good. Well, he didn’t say it in that fashion, but he did say that he had more help on this song than any other he had made. A little help is fine, but this proves that he himself didn’t know what he was doing that well when making the song for Toy Story 3.

Alan Mencken on the other hand, knew EXACTLY what he was doing when composing music for Tangled. He is a veteran composer whom people remember for his work on Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast. To lose to Randy Newman’s half-hearted attempt when Mencken shined in all his former glory…makes me sick.

I loved Toy Story 3 as a film, but this…this is despicable.

I agree. It seems like Pixar always swapping the oscars has become an oscar tradition. However, in many cases I think that another nominated movie would be more deserving.

Bolt is an example. I liked Bolt way more than Wall-E, which I found to be rather unmemorable.

Again the tastes prevail over other factors on so many comments.

You may have liked Bolt more than WALL·E, but that’s just a taste, which is something one should respect, but that doesn’t mean it’s a fact. The consensus is that WALL·E is a way better movie, and that’s based on quality parameters more than on tastes.

We shall be more objective than we’ve been these days. Our tastes are personal. They’re not the absolute truth.