Toy Story fan commentary - 10.20.2008

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#121

Thanks for compiling the available times and the selection criteria suggestions, qxgnxamy. Unfortunately I’m not free till after my final assessment on 29th October, so anytime after that is the only time I’ll be available.
As for the commentaries I’m interested in, I have discussed with Peter, but for the rest of you here are my top five in order of preference:

  1. Cars
  2. Wall-E
  3. Ratatouille
  4. Finding Nemo
  5. The Incredibles

The rest I have either watched once, too long ago, or not really interested. Of course, this order may change once I ‘rediscover’ my childhood classics, but as of now, this is my current standing.

I like the ranking idea better as it sounds easier to understand and execute. For the auction, you’ll have to consider many factors. I’ll give an example:

Say for a full year, we’ll do one feature film commentary per month, and as Pixar has 9 films altogether, that gives us extra months in case of scheduling conflicts or to do practice short film commentaries. So a full annual cycle comprises all nine Pixar films. If people join in the middle of the ‘cycle’ for some reason, since they would be given the same amount of credits as those of us who have started from the very beginning, they would have more credits to ‘play’ with and hence gain an unfair advantage over other people auctioning for the same film. Even if they weren’t, how would you decide how much credits to give them? After all, there’s no ‘limit’ on how much you can bet on one film and the remainder that you don’t use is kept for future films down the cycle. I may spend 75% of my credits on the first three films, while you may keep 50% for the second, fifth, and last film, and a third person may blow all his/her credits on the sixth film, so how do you ensure that latecomers have the same playing field as all the early adopters’ various ‘strategies’ at that particular moment in the cycle?

For that, we would have to ensure that everyone who ever wants to participate in a commentary must enter straight from the start of the annual cycle so that everyone gets the same amount of credits from the very beginning, instead of latecomers popping in and we having to decide how much credits we’ll have to exactly give them.

The ranking system eliminates the need for a necessary decision at the start of every year, and new forum members can enter anytime without having to consider the amount of credits they get to be fair.

If I sound longwinded or if anyone’s confused, I apologise and please lemme know which part you don’t understand. :stuck_out_tongue:

#122

thedriveintheatre - I understood everything you said. I believe that we’ll end up choosing the ranking system rather than the auction system because more of us will prefer it (including me).

Everyone, keep in mind that the ranking system will also give newcomers an advantage because they don’t have to rank films that we’ve already done, and so their ranking of the remaining films will be higher. However newcomers do deserve somewhat of an advantage because they have already missed out on one or more commentaries.

#123

Yeah, I agree- the credit thing sounds cool at first, but there’s a lot of different factors to consider. The ranking system seems to be simpler, and it gives everyone a chance, newcomers included.

#124

Here’s some more information on the ranking system: After we’ve done a film, you can still rearrange your rankings, but the rank of the film we’ve done is used up. For example if we do Toy Story first, and you ranked Toy Story as number 3, after Toy Story you could still rearrange the rest of the films in ranks 1, 2 and 4 through 9 but you wouldn’t be able to rank any film as number 3 again.

There’s also a flaw in the ranking system: If everyone produces the same ranking, we’ll just be drawing straws to determine who gets to participate. If there are any other flaws please let me know. Also please let me know of any suggestions for changes to the system.

Edit: I guess that one of your ranks should get used up only if you got to commentate.

Am I making this unnecessarily complicated? This post makes the ranking system look more like an auction. It could be simpler if we are not allowed to change our rankings after we first post them.

#125

Once again, thanks for the praise and stuff everyone, I appreciate it. =)

As for the rankings and stuff like that…I’m going to have to read your posts a bit more to really understand it (Sorry, I haven’t eaten yet today, and I’m a bit spacey), but here are the films I REALLY want to participate in commentaries on.

#1: WALL*E (I MUST do this one, I MUST! xD)
#2: Ratatoullie
#3: Finding Nemo
#4: Toy Story
#5: Toy Story 2

Those are the films I’d really like to do. The others, even though I really love them, I just don’t think I would have much to say on.

EDIT: Ironic, I just watched Toy Story last night for the first time in years. xD You guys were right, I really enjoyed it.

#126

I prefer the preferencing/ranking system, but you already knew that. :wink:

  1. WALL•E (I HAVE to be a part of this one, too!)
  2. Ratatouille
  3. Toy Story 2
  4. The Incredibles
  5. Toy Story

The stand-ins idea is good, because if people don’t turn up then, well, they’ll just have to be replaced. As for times for the TS commentary, from the looks of my list, I probably won’t be able to participate, anyway but as long as I get to do the TS2 one, I’ll be happy. But if it works out that I’ll still be able to or there’s room for me, I’ll let you know my times coming up.

I agree with you Peter, that newcomers do get an advantage… or people who haven’t done a commentary before should get preference. Say, if I have already participated in a commentary, then someone else comes along who hasn’t done any commentaries yet, and we both want to do the next commentary coming up, then I would have to give up my place in order to allow the newcomer to participate in that film.

Like thedriveintheatre said, it would be good to get some sort of rhythm happening with these commentaries so we can get through them, you know? Not for the sake of it, but just so things don’t get delayed all the time. Also, we won’t have to keep doing practice commentaries all the time once we start doing film after film, so that will make things quicker.

Hopefully we can sort something out. =)

#127

I didn’t quite understand the ranking stuff but that’s Ok… :stuck_out_tongue:

So for me it’s a lot like LE 's list :

#1: WALL*E ( We all have to do this one ! =D)
#2: Ratatouille ( You can’t do it without me ! )
#3: Finding Nemo
#4: Toy Story
#5: The Incredibles ( We can’t do this one without TSS )

#128

You got that one right Pixar.Rocks. My list goes like this.

  1. The Incredibles
  2. Ratatouille
  3. Finding nemo
  4. Monsters Inc.
  5. Toy Story.
#129

These are my rankings-

  1. Monsters, Inc.
  2. WALL-E
  3. Toy Story
  4. Finding Nemo
  5. Toy Story 2
  6. Ratatouille
  7. The Incredibles
  8. A Bug’s Life
  9. Cars

Obviously some films are going to be more popular than others, but as a general reference, this rankings idea should work.

#130

I’m thinking of making one with my brother, just as soon as we get good audio-recording equipment. Toy Story is his absolute favorite, and although we plan to talk about our memories of the film and stuff … I know we may go off and crack a random joke or two about a scene … or two. :laughing:

#131

Come on everyone, where is the love for The Incredibles huh? :stuck_out_tongue:

#132

TSS: I’m sure they’ll do one for The Incredibles sometime … seems only right to me that they do it in order of which the film was made. :wink:

#133

I split the calendar up into many individual calendars, one for each of us, so relevant users’ calendars can be shown and the rest hidden. Some of the calendar events were broken during the splitting process and I fixed what errors I could find, but there still may be errors that I didn’t find. If possible, could everyone check their own calendar for errors? Note that all the times are in GMT/UTC, and only errors after today’s date need to be fixed. To find your own calendar go here and click on “Calendar” then search for “(your pixar planet username) pixar fan commentaries” in public calendars. If you want, you can edit your own calendar (converting your own time zone into GMT/UTC using this form), but in order to give you access I’ll need you to give me an email address. If you want to see all of our calendars at once, just search for “pixar fan commentaries” in Google public calendars and add each user.

lizardgirl - Are you busy all day on October 23? The calendar says that you are, but I’m not sure if it’s correct.

#134

Thanks for splitting the calender, qxgnxamy. And yep, I’m out all day- I’ve got college from 8.30 'til 4.00, and then I’m going to a gig in the evening and won’t be returning back home until the following day.

#135

Here’s my ranking:

  1. Ratatouille
  2. WALL-E
  3. The Incredibles
  4. Finding Nemo
  5. Cars
  6. Monsters, Inc.
  7. Toy Story
  8. Toy Story 2
  9. A Bug’s Life

I guess what we’ll have to do is determine who’s commentating (and who’s substituting) and then find a date. We still haven’t decided what the best number of people would be.

thedriveintheatre - Since we’re doing Toy Story, I need to know where you rank that film.

#136

I think the best number of people for a commentary would be 5 plus 2 substitutes. But if no-one else comes forward with their ranking within the next couple of weeks, we should just go ahead with the Toy Story commentary - then no-one could complain we didn’t give them enough time, as this idea has been up for a while now… I just don’t see the point of twiddling our thumbs waiting for members who could possibly be interested sometime in the future.

#137

On qxgnxamy’s request:

1 ) The Incredibles
2 ) Cars
3 ) Finding Nemo
4 ) Toy Story 2
5 ) Toy Story
6 ) Monsters, Inc.
7 ) A Bug’s Life
8 ) Ratatouille
9 ) WALL•E

#138

Here’s my ranking:

1.) Ratatouille
2.) WALL-E
3.) Finding Nemo
4.) Toy Story 2
5.) Toy Story
6.) A Bug’s Life
7.) Monsters Inc.
8.) The Incredibles
9.) Cars

#139

Well, TSS, you have nothing to worry about. Except for lizardgirl and JesusFreak, everyone has TI somewhere in their top five. I should be more concerned for Cars, which is not really much of a fave here, and if we were to do it chronologically, comes after TI! :frowning:

Here’s the rest of my ranking, qxgnxamy:

6 ) Toy Story 2
7 ) A Bug’s Life
8 ) Toy Story
9 ) Monsters Inc.

Part of my ranking criteria is based on how much I am willing to talk on the film, how much I know, and how recent and the frequency I’ve watched them. So I may like Wall-E now more than Cars, but I have much more to chat about Cars with regards to the subject matter. Or I may feel like watching Monsters Inc. now compared to a Bug’s Life, but because I watched the latter so many times in my childhood in comparison the former’s one occasion on an airplane, I’d rather comment on ABL than MI.

#140

When trying to post up my order, I try not to post my list of favorite Pixar movies. Instead, I think about which Pixar movie would I have more to say.