[size=100]I just read that Disney will not be releasing the Toy Story 3 soundtrack on CD.
If Disney feels that they should not release the soundtrack on CD for Toy Story 3, obviously they feel they cannot make money on it. Or that the masses do not want such. And with that, I would note that such music does not deserve an OSCAR. In fact, if I was the competition, I would be advertising it all over to knock it down.
Not that I hate TS3 or the music, more opposing that they are not willing to sell the public it out on CD. THAT I feel is a wimpy attitude that goes against who the film was produced for, the masses. Shame on Disney and whomever thought this one up for their elitist attitude that does not allow many to enjoy such works. Same goes for the Up sound track. Such corporate decision making is awful. [/size]
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I believe the soundtrack is available, just not as an actual cd, just digitally. Second, TS3 didn’t even get nominated for best score making this thread completely pointless. Third, use normal font. The huge words doesn’t make your point more emphasized, it makes you look like an idiot. Sorry.
What is really strange is that they have released tracks like Tangled and the Frog and the Princes. So it is not an issue of “the future of sound tracks and Disney” but rather a corporate mentality on Pixar’s works. More than likely Jobs or another apple exec pull to only push ITunes, which again is not an economic position but one more of a personal /corporate mentality.
Which is their prerogative, but they also should be aware of the consumer prerogative and potential consumer perceptions and fallout that follow such decisions.
I actually looked up the Oscars before I replied, and it did not get multiple music nominations, just best song. Unless you are counting best sound editing, which I’m about positive isn’t a music related nomination. And again, they weren’t nominated for best score.
And the huge font really made it tough to reread your post, its highly annoying.
Just buy the soundtrack off Itunes, then burn a CD. Its not that difficult, and the decisions made by Disney over marketing don’t make the movie/song any worse.
To my knowledge, it was only released as a Promo CD, but still a physical copy nonetheless. It’s incredibly rare, but since not that many people seem to care, there seems to be enough for the dedicated fans. I know I’m going to try to get one.
And with a title like that, you’re sure to upset a lot of people. You’re not really going to the source with this problem, you’re just creating a different problem by saying the music is of inferior quality because it was only a digital release
I don’t think anyone said the music is of inferior quality.
Try comparing it to a recording artist that is winning a Grammy for songs that they didn’t even release on a CD. Some might feel the public has a right to be outraged because the music isn’t even available for them to purchase on CD. Something like that. Has nothing to do with the music itself. At least that’s not how I understood it.
Funny but I don’t even know what songs would be on the soundtrack. Nothing stuck out to me as memorable, except for The Gypsy Kings “Hay Un Amigo En Me” song. Guess I should google…
No thats not it. And the soundtrack has parts of the film score, as well as the Spanish You’ve got a Friend in Me, and We Belong Together, which is the song that got the oscar nomination.
As a consumer who wants such a product as Pixar’s soundtracks on CD, Yes, absolutely I want to upset others on the topic. If Disney does not want to listen to the consumers, maybe getting a few upset will get them to realize what a bad mistake it is to release it via digital alone.
I am personally e-mailing the companies in competition with the Oscar nomination in competition with Pixar and letting them know it’s a good idea to advertise Disney has no confidence in marketing it as such. I am posting it on other sites. I am trying to put pressure on them since the normal means did not work with UP and frustrating to see them do this yet again.
Its not going to work, none of those people value your opinion. Sorry if this comes off as cold, but I don’t think any of those people really care what one person thinks. I might be wrong though.
Not to bring my own Disney bias here (yeah, I do that a lot…) but, as a dear user above pointed out, Steve Jobs+ITunes=He’d want them to be as popular as possible. And to be honest, for me, TS3<Tangled. TS3 just didn’t have a phenomenal soundtrack, except for the Spanish version of Friend in Me.
By the way, I would also like to point out that PATF and Tangled are musicals. The music is a huge part of the movie, yes, bigger than TS3. Sorry, but most older people have IPods or other MP3 players, are more likely to want the music digitally, and most likely older people are going to be the ones to buy soundtracks that are mostly instrumental. This way, the soundtracks with music that would attract children are on a media that is more attractive for children these days (CDs, 'cause most kids aren’t going to have IPods). BTW, here’s advice for you if you have such a problem with digital music: Buy the digital ITunes version, for about 5 bucks cheaper than it would be in disc-format, and burn a CD. Or the Amazon version. Its actually quite an intelligent business strategy, would actually benefit the soundtrack and bring in the most profit, and has probably been perfectly tailored by people who have gone to college for 4 years and interned even longer to get there. As the little sister of a music-business major who wants to intern for Disney, these people aren’t stupid. Trust me, this isn’t just Disney going “WAAH WE HATE PIXAR LET’S NOT RELEASE THEIR SOUNDTRACKS ON CD!!!”
The sad fact we need to remember is these things aren’t tailored for us.
“The sad fact we need to remember is these things aren’t tailored for us.”
If that is the case, it a product that would have not been created. Disney would not be concerned about the nomination for Oscars. There would be not care about creating it in the first place. THAT mentality is a cut off from the consumer corporate non service mentality.
THAT mentality is what has taken Disney down in the past. Seeing it from Pixar in particular is disconcerting, its the last thing any Disney fan should want to see or support. There is a great book you can read, “Inside the Magic Kingdom” by Tom Connellan. Its the management philosophy that Lasseter has been hyping as well what has been used to keep the Magic Kingdom successful. Any time I see something of this nature, a great example of where management is shrugging off a consumer want or need for their own benefit, it throws a huge red flag up. Because, you get enough issues like this forming and many small issues become a huge one that can change the positive direction Disney has been going towards and reaching for.
I have seen numerous companies do the same thing and what is an anomaly or just one small issue, tends to grow if it is ignored and or accepted. Because such issues become the norm. Hate to see it happen, especially when I as a fan and consumer get affected by such a mentality.
So, while there may be those that say it is OK or it won’t make a difference, I am still willing to say the opposite. On the principle that the last thing I want to see happen is that this becomes the norm, not just with Pixar, but with other properties/franchises of Disney.
Well, you missed my point. When I said “us,” as in, us specifically. When a company is making you, me, us mad about something, before complaining, we need to sit down and ask ourselves: Is this actually angering the product’s audience as a whole, or just me? In the case of the latter, which it all too often is, we need to then ask ourselves: will the company actually care?
As I said in my last post, most of the consumer of this product will be buying the product digitally. If that was not the case, Disney would not have released it this way. As I said before, executives are not stupid. They look very closely at the trends and see what is the most effective way to release their product. If sales drop after this because of the lack of CDs, then yes, they will change their ways. But the truth is that unless you have a following of millions of people that are just as outraged as you are (show me the numbers please) I am not convinced that the consumers you claim Disney needs to be listening to will care. Personally, 95% of the people I know haven’t bought a CD in probably two years.
And face it, my friend, CDs are obsolete. They will be disappearing over time. Tell me, when is the last time you saw a video cassette on sale? I expect the same thing will happen to DVDs too. You know what they say, “Keep moving forward.”
I have to take odds to the economic issue, as other films and franchises are being produced.
“By the way, I would also like to point out that PATF and Tangled are musicals”
I am sorry, did not realize Tron was such a hot musical.
Actually, I think the real reason is possibly the ITunes issue. Which means… that last post of mine is all the more meaningful except to those with a corporate mentality that the consumer is not so important. Which flies in the face of the direction/philosophy Disney has been espousing to be for their consumer base.
Tron had its entire score done by famous techno band Daft Punk, the Tron soundtrack is like just another of their CDs. Its not targeted at fans of the movie, so much as it is to fans of the band.
And I still can’t tell if you like the score or not, if it loses the oscar than that just shows that the music really wasn’t that marketable, and will make disney justified in not releasing it. Losing isn’t going to make your situation better.
So, you want Disney to keep pointlessly distributing an obsolete technology because a few buyers want it? …Alright, then.
You keep making this point that Disney is supposed to be catering to their consumers but I keep asking you: is most of the consumer base really going to care? Disney can’t cater to every little groups wishes. That is what us tropers like to call Pandering to the Base (tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M … gToTheBase) and arguably worse things happen when you do that. I’m sorry, but until you show me those numbers, that the majority of their consumers are buying Pixar soundtracks on CD, I won’t be convinced.
