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#161

Here are some ‘real’ numbers for Up’s dvd sales for its 3rd week in release:

…LastWeek …Title …UnitsThisWeek … Total …Gross$ …WeeksOut
1 (2) …Up …1,222,384 …6,098,741 .$101,385,399 …3
2 (-) …Dark Knight, The …1,210,786 …14,212,315 $230,020,313 …51
3 (-) …Santa Buddies …970,796 …970,796 …$14,775,515 …1

The Dark Knight was really going cheap at most outlets. Note: this is the ‘real’ thing, not last years list, TDK really is selling well now, a week before Hangover comes out, which will displace both movies from the top. This is from the-numbers.com, so it mostly jives with what the other sites are saying.

Back to Theatrical—

This from screendaily.com:

“Up finally crossed $400m as a number one hold in the second weekend in Japan and a further $5.6m from 663 screens pushed the tally there to $16m and the international running total to $401.4m. This positions Up as the third biggest Pixar release and only the fifth title this calendar year to cross $400m overseas.”

So the global take is now over $694M. Up is now certain to pass Ratatouille’s huge smash overseas take in a couple of weeks. I think it’s on track to be the 2nd biggest Pixar film moneywise, altho not in # of admissions (inflation), and we will have to wait to see if it matches Wall-E’s awards prowess. However, 2012 after just 5 weeks has globally, but not domestically (it never will), blown past our friend, largely on receipts from the Orient. New Moon will just barely pass it up entirely in a few weeks. And then there will be Avatar, the potential [/b]titan of the age[/b].

Edit Dec 21st: Avatar despite the U.S. blizzard pulled in about 40% of what it needs to break even, one of the 2-3 most expensive films ever, including inflation. Its visual effects blow away all comers, including Pixar’s. But the vampire movie is fading fast worldwide, as its female fan base limits attendance during a family holiday.

#162

Unfortunately, James Cameron’s “Smurfs on Steroids” isn’t the one knocking down Carl and Russell a peg or 2, it’s actually a new movie based on the anime “One Piece” called “One Piece Strong World” which UP went down to number 3 at the Japanese box office, and from videos of packed movie theaters showing the movie on youtube, getting a ticket to this movie is like the Hannah Montana concert fiasco a few years ago.

#163

Third week in Japan, Up falls to #3 there, with a total of nearly $25M. And Avatar will be released next week, pushing it down further perhaps. But it still has passed the $700M global mark ($703M), on its way to becoming the 6th biggest global hit and 5th domestic of 2009. Wall-E was 8th and 5th respectively for 2008. Here is what screendaily.com has to say:

*[i]Up added $4.4m from 1,868 in 21 for $409.8m and will overtake Ratatouille by the middle of the week to become Pixar’s second highest overseas grosser. Box office Global: Dec 04-06:

* 1 The Princess And The Frog ($31.5mm)
* 2  The Twilight Saga: New Moon ($30.6m)
* 3 2012 ($24.2m)
* 4 Disney's A Christmas Carol ($20.9m)[/i]

I think Up was 11th or so on that 2 week old list. So the movie has now passed up my own early prediction of how well it would do globally, $701M. My domestic was dead on target.

And here is the most recent info about how well Up has been doing in the UK, from screenrush.co.uk:

UK Box Office, Nielsen EDI, December 18-20th, 2009:

…Title …Week Weekend Takings Total to Date

  1. A Christmas Carol …7 £ 1 003 616 £ 17 800 095
  2. Nativity! …4 £ 578 510 £ 3 629 077
  3. Planet 51 …3 £ 451 420 £ 3 240 615
  4. Where The Wild Things R .2 £ 415 900 £ 1 763 287
  5. New Moon …5 £ 349 440 £ 25 862 050
  6. Law Abiding Citizen …4 £ 307 104 £ 5 452 528
  7. Paranormal Activity …4 £ 305 637 £ 9 389 581
  8. 2012 …6 £ 171 827 £ 19 211 971
  9. A Serious Man …5 £ 69 781 £ 1 486 991
    10 The Box …3 £ 62 854 £ 1 215 189
    11 Up …11 £ 25 526 £ 34 284 193($60M )

Blockbuster said that the Up dvd fell to 10th on the sales list in their chain, but expect strong sales over the Xmas holiday and New Years too. It will take a few weeks for this info to percolate our way, sadly the last numbers I have are for Nov. 29th. I cannot find Up in any form at my local Walmart for an entire week now, not in ‘Family’, not in ‘Bestsellers’. All the other Disney/Pixar films are there, except for Wall-E too. What’s going on?

Rentrak says that Up was the 5th bestseller of the week ending Dec. 20th. It may hold that post even with District 9 and other films coming out since its Xmas and family films hold strongly during the next 2 weeks, and anyway, G-Force is weak.

#164

Here is some info from ‘The World of KJ’ film website, the data comes from a poster named ‘Corpse’:

Wall-E vs Up in Japan:

  1. WALL-E $4,850,736 1 458 $10,591 0 $5,538,163 (3-day/or previews opening I guess)
  2. WALL-E $4,493,479 2 459 $9,790 -7 $12,650,027
  3. WALL-E $2,873,238 3 454 $6,329 -36 $17,890,694
  4. WALL-E $2,090,971 4 456 $4,585 -27 $24,339,672
  5. WALL-E $3,188,888 5 456 $6,993 53 $33,011,500
  6. WALL-E $1,829,462 6 449 $4,075 -43 $38,345,676
  7. WALL-E $1,005,204 7 392 $2,564 -45 $40,774,019
    No data for week 8
  8. WALL-E $474,775 9 278 $1,708 -32 $43,322,327

Total - $46.5 (an estimate since I can’t find the actual gross).

  1. Up $6,992,874 1 663 $10,547 0 $6,992,874
  2. Up $5,886,910 2 664 $8,866 -16 $17,398,410
  3. Up $4,038,915 3 661 $6,110 -31 $24,671,421
    ?. Up $2,600,000 (est.) - 36% $32,000,000 (est.)

Avatar is out in Japan, so much of the Xmas fall was blamed on it, altho that behemoth is not going to make as much as either Ponyo and perhaps will do half the take of Titanic in Japan. Globally, I’ve felt for about a week that it will take around $1.525 B, so many of the top Japanese films out now may regret competing head to head with it. Hopefully Up will rise next holiday weekend, just as its Pixar predecessor did the year before. Anyways, Up held onto 3rd place in Japan even with Avatar’s debut, which is a very good sign. Cameron’s movie is going to crash into the Top 10 movies EVER by Sunday, after just 17 days. Dazzling.

Is Up global around $710M now? The domestic and global take for New Moon, which was rapidly catching up our Pixar friend, has now become flat, and may not even pass it up, as I predicted it would just three weeks ago! No surprise, its facing unprecedented, enormous holiday competition, even with over 1600 screens.

Edit: Dvd Sales 4th week: over 500,000 to 6.6M, in 3rd place for the week ending Dec. 6th, and solidly in 4th place for the year, unless Hangover can outdo it, which isn’t going to happen when Xmas is totaled up. This info is up till Dec. 6th, so it’s already 3 weeks old, next update in a few days they say. How is it going to sell dvd’s when it’s so hard to find at the outlets… hmm?

#165

As long as our movie is doing well in Japan or with U.S. dvd sales, I will continue to glean what can be gleaned from the news services.

Here is a list posted by ‘Corpse’ in the ‘World of KJ’ film website:

[i]Post Re: Japan Box Office, Jan. 2-3, 2010

1 1 AVATAR FOX 2
2 2 Nodame Cantabile The Movie I (JPN.) Toho 3
3 4 UP Disney 5
4 3 One Piece Film Strong World (JPN.Animation) Toei 4
5 6 Free And Easy 20 Final (JPN.) Shochiku 2
6 5 Kamen Rider x Kamen Rider W & Decade Movie Taisen 2010 (JPN.) Toei 4
7 7 2012 SPE 7
8 13 A Tale Of Ululu’s Wonderful Forest (JPN.) Toho 3
9 8 Professor Layton And The Eternal Diva (JPN.Animation) Toho 3
10 12 MICHAEL JACKSON’S THIS IS IT SPE 10

The only number known right now is Up ($3.1m/$41.2m).[/i]

Ok, so thats $9M more than last week and another site reported an overseas gross of well over $418M a few days ago or maybe even a week ago. That finally beats The Rat, but not Nemo. This weeks tally was 16% ahead of last week, but expect a 40% falloff for our friends on the coming non-holiday week. Still, Up will then be pushing past Wall-E’s performance in Japan, which might end up around $53-57M, assuming the film dies sometime in February, like our metal friend did in early 2009.

Btw, this same poster claims that Hollywood films just aren’t doing that well anymore in his country, that they have gone into eclipse since 2005. He says that the avg person goes to the movies 1.3x per year there. Here in the U.S. we saw about $11B box, and with 300M people, that’s nearly 4 visits to the theaters per year. If you look at what’s happening in Japan, nearly all their homegrown big movies are from TV shows, well established manga, etc… NOT original stories. Either they are renting big time or have lost the desire to ‘go see it on the big screen.’

We have some of this problem here in the U.S. with the fact that nearly all the biggest films ever are sequels. Even Titanic was halfway an unoriginal story and was the 3rd movie of that title, which partly qualifies it as a ‘franchise’. Many biggies here are from hugely successful books, such as Jurassic Park, only 3 of the top 25 global movies had the distinction of being truly unique: Independence Day, Avatar, and Finding Nemo. And Stanton and Cameron have nearly flawless track records.

Disney made nearly $3B this year with its theatrical take, just ahead of Paramount, and only $1B behind the record setters Fox and Warner at $4B each. Of course, a fourth of that was from our new found friends:

boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha … 009&p=.htm and globally:
boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha … 009&p=.htm

That’s the final tally for 2009 domestically, while Avatar and a few other films on that list jostle for pole positions, Up will remain at #4, unless Twilight pushes past (fading fast, but it could make another $4-7M and do just that). The real tally for Up is around $715M, that website lags, and Twilight is highly unlikely to push ahead of it globally.

Edit: Up rakes in another 500,000 dvd sales for the week ending Dec. 13th. Note this is not even the Xmas period, and HP6 claimed the first place, with Hangover coming into the charts next week. Nielson videoscan says the latter has been #1 in sales for 3 weeks, into early January, but we have no real sale numbers yet.

Further Edit, Updated to 1/10/10: Japanese theatrical - Up pulled in about another 6M this past week, its 5th week out. Not sure if it’s still some sort of holiday there. Japanese prelim cume is $46.6M. Avatar in 3 weeks has just pushed past it for the year and stands at around $50M.

Edit Jan 15th: Up, as happens with Disney movies this time of year, surges to 600,000 sales for the week ending Dec. 20th, to 7.7M sales. We are now in the 3 week Xmas to New Year’s holiday period in the U.S., and the numbers may continue to surge next week and be respectable for the last week. It will move next week into 3rd place for 2009, and perhaps can edge into 2nd place by Academy Award week in late Feb., passing silly Transf2.

Edit Jan 18th: Up has slipped from 3rd to 5th in Japan with about $4M for the week and an overall there of $50-51M on its 7th week…It will be very hard for it to keep this up beyond the first of February, just like Wall-E collapsed during that month last year. No word on the exact global cum, but probably around $720-725M. Twilight in the U.S. will finally pass up our new friends next week, surpassing the $293.0 domestic take, pushing them to 5th for the year, its final pole position.

#166

Dvd Sales: up to around 8.5M, with a big Xmas week of nearly 3/4 of a million sold, its 7th week out, to Dec. 27th. Hangover repeated at #1 with District 9 only able to muster half of its huge 2nd week of 2M units. Remember that Hangover was supposed to be #1 for 3 weeks and next week should stay there, as the ratings take 3 weeks to be translated to real numbers sold. This was the surprise movie that just barely kept Up out of the top spot for its 2nd and 3rd weeks last summer. Up moves into the 3rd place for 2009, and hopefully The Hangover will run out of steam by Oscars time.

Theatrical box: adjusted to $50.6M total in Japan, with a drop of 37%. Where The Wild Things Are debuted at a so-so #3. If Up does 30% better than Wall-E then it will end up over $57M, which it might beat anyways. We just haven’t had the response from Japanese citizen forum members here that we had for our Tonka-like friend, so I guess there is just stiffer competition this season over there. Still it would have been nice to hear how the critics and commentators are treating the latest batch of Pixar friends.

Just in: Global take is now up to $723+M as of Sunday Jan. 18, according to boxofficemojo, which strangely is still way behind on 10 major countries, no box for Japan, which we have precise info for for example, or Great Britain, which we have more recent info, etc… Now that includes $430M overseas, and still going strong! Updates here till mid-March, when sales will have pooped out. The-numbers.com says global is $727M by Friday Jan 23rd.

I’ve added their list of nations and come up $100M short, exactly half of that is Japan. Probably around $5M is short for Britain, and most of the rest is for Euro take, some countries have only the first weekend box. Also, not only is ‘Up’ extraordinarily hard to google (as miafka and others have said), the exchange rates have been hard to track, as the movie has such a long release schedule.

Box Office History for Pixar Movies:

Released…Movie Name…US…Global…Budget
11/22/1995…Toy Story…$191.8M $362.0M $30M
11/20/1998…A Bug’s Life…$162.8M $363.4M $45M
11/19/1999…Toy Story 2…$245.9M $485.8M $90M
11/2/2001…Monsters, Inc…$255.9M $529.0M $115M
5/30/2003…Finding Nemo…$339.7M $866.6M $94M
11/5/2004…The Incredibles …$261.4M $635.6M $92M
6/9/2006…Cars…$244.1M $462.0M $70M
6/29/2007…Ratatouille…$206.4M $624.4M $150M
6/27/2008…WALL-E…$223.8M $533.0M $180M
5/29/2009…Up…$293.0M $727.1M $175M
6/18/2010…Toy Story 3
6/24/2011…Cars 2
12/31/2011…Bear and the Bow
8/31/2012…Newt

Totals…$5,588.7M $1,041M
Averages …$242.5M …$558.9M $104.1M

Edit: dvd sales 8th week, up to Jan. 3rd, fell as expected, but the fall was much greater than antipated - only 130,000 sales in the U.S. At this rate it may never pass Transf2, it only made up 100,000 on it, with over 700,000 needed to take over the #2 position. Also, you may forget that it will ever be the top dvd of 2009, with another Twilight installment coming, the first movie will get yet another boost, and it’s already about 2M units ahead of Up.

Back to Box: for this week in Japan, our friends balloon deflated nearly out of the top10, with 5 new releases pushing down all but Avatar. Total after 8 weeks is $52.7M. So it may be hard to get any info in the future for the box office… I guess you can add a few million to the above numbers and wrap it up for this years Pixar release.

Edit: dvd sales 9th week, falls to 11th on list and 97,000 sales.

#167

There was some comment in the trades today about the Up dvd sales, in regards to Disney’s quarterly profits. Last year, Wall-E’s dvd sales were exaggerated by the trades, erroneously, and Disney knew this, referring to it and Caspian as poorer performers probably due to the recession and adversely affecting overall gross. Things are different this year with business up, but this past quarter has been flat, read about it here:

variety.com/article/VR111801 … =1056&cs=1

Some of you may be upset about which movies are called ‘underperformers’, I know I was last year when the Disney exec called Wall-E that name. They say that Up helped the quarter with dvd sales. Up has nearly matched Wall-E’s total take now, and will probably do well up to the week the next ToyStory movie comes out.

Up fell to #15 on its 10th week out with 80,000 sales. This is all before the awards spike, altho it will be well into March before I can find out any real numbers to relay to you.

Edit: Up rises to #12 with 100K sales, week up till Jan. 24th. But this is before the Oscar buzz. Expect the dvd sales to soar on Oscars weekend, but it will take 3 weeks before we find out the supposedly exact numbers. It might even pass into #2 dvd spot for the year. Theatrical box office: absolutely no word on this, sorry.

Blast From the Past: Read these charts and see our friends on top in Brazil for 4 straight weeks! :

boxofficemojo.com/intl/brazil/?y … =39&p=.htm
boxofficemojo.com/intl/brazil/?y … =36&p=.htm

It finished up around $11M box and is still being played down there, #36 this past week, altho small potatoes next to Avatar. Brazil had the 11th highest box among nations for this movie.

Edit: Up dvd sales sagged on the 12th week, ending Jan. 31st, but it still rose into the top10 as holiday sales are long gone. There still are two bright spots left this month: Presidents Day weekend and the Academy Awards.

Further Edit: Up dvd sales top 9 million, but still haven’t passed up Wall-E! Up falls to #10 on the list, with rising sales.

Edit: Dvd rises to 130,000 units, to #8, to Feb. 14th, still 3 more weeks before it hits an Oscars peak just like Wall-E and Ratatouille did.

#168

U.S. dvd sales rocketed to over 656,000 for the week! ending Feb. 21st. Now that’s due to President’s Day here in the U.S. on Feb. 15th and also the Academy of Motion Pictures nominee buzz. Up almost made the top spot. This info is still 2 weeks before the 2 Oscar wins.

Now Up has soared to the 2nd highest selling release of 2009, just behind Twilight, only half a million to go, and its possible it may temporarily pass the phenomenon. But this summer, the release of the 3rd vamp installment will cause sales of the first installment to soar yet again.

Edit: Well, the next weeks list is up, which is really weird for it to happen on a Friday, it’s usually mid-week. And Up falls to 15th on the dvd list, with only 76K sales, for the week ending Feb. 28th. But it nears 10M units, which is nice to see. Next reports will be Oscars week and the aftermath, which should be interesting. The week before TS3 is released in the theaters will also see a spike.

#169

Thanks for continuing to keep us informed, DarkHand! Wow, any way you look at it, Up has been a big success! I like to think that some people who wouldn’t have given an animated film the time of day are seeing Up now because of the Oscars (and hopefully loving it!).

#170

Those numbers are from the-numbers.com which do NOT include Blu Ray sales meaning that Up number is 20-25% bigger,probably around 11-11,5 million copies sold.

Here’s a great site for DVD sales,they have the ratio between DVD/Bluray and are officially counted by Videoscan.

For the week of 3/14/10 UP is at #11…18 straight weeks in the Top 20.

homemediamagazine.com/top-se … nded-31410

#171

Oh, the-numbers failed to mention that on their website. Anyways, I’ve reported some numbers from Rentrak and the Nielsen Videoscan in this thread, because the 3 week lag is a bit annoying from the-numbers.com. At least they do provide real sales numbers, not relative percentages… And I guess that takes a few weeks to get reported. Their numbers can change surprisingly swiftly and they do admit to guesswork.

Also, I’ve checked out some sites at Blockbuster video and other sellers to get an idea of what’s really happening. Back when Wall-E was new, other members of this forum used the-numbers.com. No one until now has mentioned this important detail, Dark Samurai.

Thanks for the link.

More info from that link: it verified the big promo/discount sales week ending Feb. 21st for Up and the Hangover, where Up shot back into the #2 spot. Homemag said that the Golden Globe noms mattered too. Interestingly, those types of promos tend to sell huge quantities of regular dvds and Up’s blu-ray share then was a paltry 4%, with 96% being regular dvd’s, so it fluctuates wildly on any particular week. There were a few blu-rays at my Safeway supermarket on Nov. 11th, and lots of them at Best Buy. Last month I noticed a really low price on Up at Best Buy, same $ as when it was released, this must have been the promo.

Edit: my gas station market is now selling 2 Up dvd’s, along with 3 Wall-E’s, of which one just sold. These are often previously viewed dvd’s: rentals where multiple copies are no longer necessary. Also, is Hollywood Video going out of business nationally? Two are closing up shop in my area.

Further Edit: Up’s dvd sales, regular only?, have slipped over the 10M mark and continue to sell at a clip of about 60,000 per week, still barely in the top 20 as of Mar. 21st, its 19th week out. It is indeed closing in on the #1 spot for titles released in 2009. However it’s dropping down the charts, #19 now on one, out of the top 20 on another because 3 Disney titles have pushed to the top: Princess and the Frog and the TS1/TS2. These were released over spring break here in the U.S. as the beating drum gets louder for this summer’s big release, not to mention what you see in the toy stores.

Edit: Up falls off the top 30 sale list, with only 30,000 or so sales ending the week of Mar. 28th. That’s all folks, until the week before TS3 comes out, when sales will spike again, perhaps for the last time…

#172

Well, excuse me, but Up charged back into the top10 for week ending Apr. 4th, 150,000 sales strong and is now a quarter million from overtaking Twilight, which had nearly 10.5M sales in the past year.

Does anyone who lives outside of the U.S. have any info on dvd sales in other countries?

Edit Up dropped from the charts for a few weeks and with summer, as expected, has now returned! …Drifting around the bottom of the chart for the weeks ending May 9th. As suggested it will have its last real hurrah the week before TS3 debuts. And it still is edging closer to surpassing all comers released in 2009. Twilight has been barely making sales, having reached market saturation, altho the next installment is due in a few weeks.

They continue to play this movie all day long in my local Sears store, to promote their video equipment, and you just can’t help but admire the replayability of this extraordinary movie. Kids and families just love it!

Further Edit Up dvd sales have topped 10.4 M. It still ranks in the top 30, 6 months after release! There is lots of competition from other Disney/Pixar titles, such as TS1+2 and Princess and the Frog, recent releases. It’s about 100K copies away from catching up to the first Twilight movie.

#173

Up dvd sales might get a boost from TS3 and the holidays. It seems to sell fast wherever I see it available, which includes the $9.99 bargain racks now.

The total for ‘plain’ dvd’s is up to 10.6M now, 200K more than when last posted here 6 months ago. The dvd continues to whittle away at Twlight’s lead, and is down to about 88,000 copies away from overtaking, which it may never do. For movies released in 2009, even Avatar has not been able to beat it. Have you seen the Avatar dvd? It’s rather plain, I guess there is a director’s commentary on it. No special features, so if you’ve seen the movie, or the extended director’s cut, no reason to chase it down. And it’s 2M sales behind Up, and has fallen off the charts for now, altho they may release a special Director’s Cut version with xtra features, that’s what I would do, and why haven’t they clued us into their plans?

Theatrical Box: finished around $731.3M global, which was a little more than a million since we last visited Japan, the last country for release last December. So Japan never exceeded British revenues, altho it did so for TS3 here in 2010.

#174

Well, in the past week a passel of older Disney/Pixar titles surged in sales, from Pinocchio to The Incredibles to Bambi, for the week ending April 24th. This may be related to Spring Break or some seasonal special. Our Up is included in this surge, pushing to 10,777,000 units, which now finally beats Twilight out for first place in dvd’s released in 2009!! So it joins TS3, which this week has accumulated almost the same # of sales, as the #1 Title of the Year in which they were released. This total is only for the ‘plain’ dvd’s, not for Blu-ray.

Avatar did indeed come out with a special edition dvd around Thanksgiving, including new material from the extended theatrical release last fall, which only commanded a few hundred thousand copies, which was odd. I don’t think there was a very good promotion. Still it sold strongly on initial release last May and the forthcoming sequels will cause surges in dvd sales for years to come.