On the plus side, they’re giving out “For Your Consideration” CDs to the Academy members. Come on, Oscar voters, there’s your winner, right there!
I still don’t understand why they didn’t release the complete soundtrack to the public, since they made us download it anyway. I understand time limits on a CD, but what difference could it make with a download?
There are some interesting differences in the track list, looking at the lengths of some cuts: It looks like the “Seizing the Spirit of Adventure” track on the public release has been split into “Geriatric Dogfight” and “Seizing…” on the Academy CD. The “Spirit of Adventure” song is about 45 seconds longer on the public release than the Academy CD, which suggests that the Academy version is the truncated/rearranged version from the movie credits (I’m so glad we got the whole song on the download). The “End Credits” music is also about 2:42 minutes longer on the public release - after I got the BR, I realized that there’s music in the “End Credits” download track that wasn’t actually used in the movie - again, I’m glad to have the longer version.
One difference between the movie and the soundtrack: On the soundtrack, “Memories Can Weigh You Down” and “The Small Mailman Returns,” because they are 2 separate tracks, have a break between them, but in the movie, the music segues straight from one into the next - I really like how the music flows there, in the movie, and wish they’d treated those two cuts as one on the soundtrack, so it gave the same effect.
Maybe when Mr. G wins his Oscar for this, they’ll put out some more complete version of the score, even if it’s (again) just for download.
This is great news! There are some sweet cues in the movie that didn’t make it to the standard OST. They should be great to hear on the extended edition. Yesssss, they even have the “Newsreel” music. I don’t know how I’m going to get my mitts on those tracks, but rest assured, if I do, I will let you all know about it and PM it to you. When there’s a will, there’s a way guys.
The Ratatouille C & C CD popped up on eBay a few times a couple of years ago, but now that I think about it, they were probably counterfeit because they didn’t come with the cover. The FYC CDs that I’ve seen on eBay have been the real deal, but be prepared to pay. (And when you do get it, make a copy for Rachel, your buddy-ol-pal, won’t ya?)
If any Pixarians (or anyone) are reading this and could supply me a copy of the Up cast and crew tracks and/or the FYC tracks, I would be forever grateful, and your identity will remain a secret. My email is rachel AT pixarplanet DOT com.
Yeah, they did this with the music in The Incredibles, too. “Kronos Unveiled” if memory serves.
I still don’t understand why they didn’t release the complete soundtrack to the public, since they made us download it anyway.
Because companies never want to give away more than they have to.
Reminds me of that old cliche about the way lawyers want their clients to talk: if someone asks another person “do you know what time it is?” normally that other person would answer “It’s 12:30.” But a lawyer would say no, you’re supposed to answer just “Yes.” Never give away more than you have to, right? That sadly seems to be the default position of any company in the business – I’m sure without even them thinking about it at this point. But you’re absolutely right – on a physical CD there are time constraints (they can’t put on more than 1 CD will hold, and issuing more than 1 CD would cost more money for extra discs and holders). But on a download-only album (especially where itunes was offering extras like videos and pictures) why not include most of the tracks? There’s no reason not to. But it doesn’t even enter anyone’s thinking to do so.
As far as the lengths goes, yes, I’m not surprised there are differences. Often for the official soundtracks, if a cue is long, they’ll “end it for the CD” (sometimes even editing it a bit, to give it an ending) but if it’s raw versions of the cues on that CD then it would be the original cues that keep going and might have a different length. Also, it’s very common for different cues to be either joined together or spliced. You often see music that might read “3M22/23” which would mean they printed two cues (3M22 and 3M23 in this example) that go one right after the other on the same page, and we’ll typically record it all at once. They may (or may not) chop it up for the CD. On the flip side, if a cue is long, they might chop up “3M15” (or whatever) into more than one cue, giving it different English titles for the soundtrack CD (ie, “Joe Goes to the Store” followed by “Joe Buys Ice Cream”). Probably on these FYC CDs it’s the raw version of the recorded cues. Editing like this happens all the time, even for the movie. For instance, that “Spirit of Adventure” song, you can hear the whole song on the released soundtrack, but in the movie, you only hear about half of it.
I think it’d be really cool for it to become standard practice to simply release all the cues from a movie – the entire soundtrack. There’s no reason not to in an age where it seems to be shifting all to download. After all, when you buy a movie, does the DVD only come with selected scenes? Even on the short incidental cues, there’s some good stuff there, and often cues get covered up with dialogue or SFX in the final mix (don’t get me started). Unless you played it, you wouldn’t even be aware of cool stuff going on in the music a bunch of times…
Yeah, or if the movie studios don’t want to release every cue on a CD, then they should at least have a soundtrack-only feature for the DVD. It wouldn’t be that hard to do and some DVDs do have this feature.
It’s ok everyone! I got a copy of the For Your Consideration CD! We aren’t allowed to post links to material that isn’t ours on this forum, but if you would like me to private message you the link, just give me a holla. But only if you vote in the Pixar Planet awards first! (Naw, just kidding. )
I love the choppy editing of the music for the first track (the newsreel sequence), lol. The way they flattened the music is a great effect, too. What is everyone’s favourite track on the extended edition CD?
EDIT: I had to edit my post because people were messaging and emailing me asking me for the C&C CD, when I only have the FYC CD. Which is fine, I really don’t mind sharing the soundtracks, I just don’t want to give the wrong information. I also have other Pixar C&C CDs if you’re interested. You can email me at rachel AT pixarplanet DOT com and I’ll send you a link to them.
Actually, most (if not all) Cast and Crew CD’s that have been released by Pixar and Disney so far have no cover, the compact discs themselves are picture discs. I have the original Finding Nemo and Ratatouille Cast and Crew CD’s and both have no cover but are original CD’s (no CD-R). Same for the ‘Meet The Robinsons’ Cast and Crew CD from Disney. I had to fork out quite a few bucks though…
Rachel, one messed Up translation I’m referring to surrounds this Up movie leaflet. My friend has this movie flier and it is written CD soundtrack for the movie Up in Japanese, but there is no mention you have to burn the music on a CD. allcinema.net/prog/image_lar … 4%D6%B2%C8
I have never seen this first movie leaflet. There are newer leaflets of Up, but there is no mention of any music from Up in the newer leaflets. Anyways, I do believe my friends story is true, about a one word missed translation album, because he translates movie CD soundtracks from English into Japanese for a living. We talk a lot about movie soundtracks in Japan and my friend was fuming when there wouldn’t be a physical CD from Up in Japan even though the first movie flier says there would be a physical CD that you can buy from stores.
Another messed Up translation is from this website from Disney. It says there will be a CD, but there is no mention of burning an Up soundtrack onto a CD. disney.co.jp/records/album_info/533.html
However, this website says you can have an Up soundtrack on CD, but you have to burn the music onto a recordable CD. It’s not from AVEX or Disney by the way. It looks more professional than the Disney website. listen.jp/store/album_xxxxn2922.htm
For me, I don’t like the CD wording on the Disney website. I don’t know about any other countries meaning, but in Japan CD means CD like you get from the Disney store. Or album means album like from a physical vinyl or CD album which my friend is mad about.
The only track missing from the extended edition is Michael Giacchino’s version of the music from Carmen. Oh well. I really like “The Adventures of a Lifetime” and “The Housing Decline”. I haven’t listened to all of the soundtrack, though. It practically goes for the whole length of the film (not that I’m complaining. )
miafka, what’s the instrument used for those noises in “The Housing Decline”, do you remember? Or are those effects added in post? The first noise plays around the 2 second mark, and then again at 11 seconds. They sound really cool.
Ok, thanks for the explanation, Rey-chan. You’re right. It is misleading for the websites and fliers to advertise the Up soundtrack, but to make no mention that it will not be a physical copy, especially when the assumption would that it would be, like past Pixar soundtrack releases.
With one week to go before the Oscars, Michael dropped by the local classical music station to give an indepth interview, talking about Up’s score. The podcast is online now. kusc.podbean.com/category/jim-svejda-interviews/
(It’s currently the top of the list for the podcast… if you’re reading this a few weeks later after me posting this, you may have to scroll down a bit. It’s the podcast for Feb 25th 2010).
I’m incredibly sad/angry that the soundtrack hasn’t been released as a hard copy but the fact that M.G is a near lock to win the oscar on Sunday makes me very optimistic they will do that sometime in the future.
So now that this awesome score has won just about every award there is, including Best Score at the Oscars, can be pleeeeeeaaaaseeee have a physical CD release?
Yes, a bunch of us who worked on it were together tonight doing something else, and as soon as the word came in that Up had won for best score, we were all like “Yes!” (with apologies to Brad Bird). It’s a win Michael really deserves. (And as totoro said, a real shame that such a high-profile soundtrack – that wound up winning the Oscar for best score of the year – wasn’t even released on a CD).
ROTFL. (I’ve wondered if Brad Bird ever had any comments for Pete Docter about the fact that Russell says, “Yes!” a couple of times in Up.)
Can’t be said too many times: Congrats to Mr Giacchino for the win, and a wonderful score with a theme that deserves to take its place among the most memorable classic film themes.
In today’s LA Times there were some small articles about many of the Oscar winners who won in some of the less popular catagories (like visual effects, costume design, etc). There was one for Michael as well, for best score:
MICHAEL GIACCHINO WINS FOR SCORE TO ‘UP’
Michael Giacchino, the celebrated composer for “Lost,” “Star Trek” and “Up,” had a personal way of figuring out what would soak the hankies for Disney’s tender look at mortality. “A lot of people have said to me, ‘You made me cry,’ and it was only because I cried myself,” he said backstage. “It was a pure reflection of how I was feeling when I watched the movie.”
But he favored understatement for evoking emotion instead of melodrama. When Ellie dies, “you may have a tendency to get really big with the orchestration . . . but when you’re in a room with somebody telling you about their most dramatic moment in life, it’s really quiet. . . . For me, it was about being as quiet and respectful as possible.”
This is the second nomination for the New Jersey-born composer, who often turns to vintage Italian music for inspiration. He was previously nominated in 2007 for his score to “Ratatouille,” another computer-animated film produced by Pixar.
Thanks for showing us that, miafka. I love what he says about Ellie’s scene- he’s so right in that a loud orchestra at that point really wouldn’t have suited it, whilst a more quiet, sombre tone worked really well.
Some other small differences I noticed in the FYC:
Although the FYC “Up with End Credits” is shorter, it includes the opening percussion figure that’s in the movie, but not on the official download.
Also, in “Going Back for Kevin” on the FYC, there is a pause 18 seconds in. In the official download’'s “The Small Mailman Returns” (which combines TSMR and GBFK from the FYC), the pause is replaced by Horner-esque descending piano hits. Similar piano hits are heard in “He’s Got the Bird.”
“Carl Goes Up” on the official release also seems to have an extended ending not on “9,999,999 Luftballoons” on the FYC.
Somewhat related: In “Cumulonincompoop” when Carl and Russell are approaching the storm, there is a somewhat incongruous use of Dug’s motif. Maybe it just sounded good there.
Without looking at the movie right now - I’m thinking the “Incongruous Dug Motif” is used when Carl is dangling Russell out the window over the city. I noticed that, watching the movie, and wondered about the “Dug” music there, too.
The way they flattened the music is a great effect, too. What is everyone’s favourite track on the extended edition CD?
