Great.
I love the villains in The Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile, two of my favorite movies.
Oh, they’re baaaaaad.
Hahahha, really? The first movie defeated the point of the first movie. I thought the whole point of the movie is that deformed people are still deserving for happiness. The whole PLOT of the movie was building up to that. AND he doesn’t get the girl? Who’s life he saved? Unlike Phoebus, who is obviously just enamored by her body, Quasi likes her for her heart. And then the ending happens. WTF?
But the movie was like “Hey! If you’re really ugly or deformed, it’s alright be yourself because it’s on the inside that counts! But the girl is going to go for the obviously more dashing and hot guy. Just letting you know. Prepare for lifetime of being alone.”
There’s a great article on cracked.com called ‘7 Classic Disney Movies that taught us Horrible Lessons’. It’s hilarious. Anyway, it goes on to say this-
The Supposed Message:
Don’t judge a book by its cover!
The Actual Message:
Ugly guys don’t get the girl, even if they’re devoted and awesome. That’s just how it works, sorry.
Way to go Disney.
Don’t blame Disney. Protagonist doesn’t have to get the girl at the end. He saw her happiness, and was eager to give her up.
And besides, if he ended up with her, that would blow away the original source, the Victor Hugo novel. So it’s not Disney fault this time.
What you say is interesting about teh Hugo novel. I’m a fan of Victor’s work. And while in both the movie and book Quasi doesn’t get the girl, Disney goes out of their way to change every other aspect of the novel.
I find it strange that Disney tramples on every aspect of the plot from Hugo’s classic, but keeps the ending SOMEWHAT the same, in the process going against what the whole point and moral of the movie is in the last 5 minutes.
What, Hunchback of Notre Dame? The first had spectaculr animation. I didn’t get to see all of it, but I liked it especially how Disney didn’t stop at the darkness of that age and discrimination against gypsies. The second one though? Hell no. What’s so special about a bell?!
Besides. Disney sequels never really take. (Little Mermaid 2 is a guilty pleasure for me.) Remember Pocahontas 2? They mucked it up by changing the stryline to what history says happened at the last moment. Ergo, awkward reuniting wth John Smith!
Well, you’re right about them changing other plot lines of the novel, e-j-e.
I take you’re not a fan of the movie, then.
I love the movie. And personally, it would have kind for ruined it for me if Esmeralda and Quasimodo had been together. She clearly didn’t love him in that way, so what sense would that have made? And I thought the whole point was that he wanted her to be happy. And he was happy, too, because he was accepted by his town. 
I love this movie. 
You summed up my feelings. I think it’s one of my favorites out of the 50. Probably in my top 3.
It’s my 3rd favorite.
Well, I don’t have a permanent list, but it must be around there.
-Psssst! You should post on the list all 50 animated Disney movies thread!-
No, I can’t.
Saying that certain movies are your absolute favorites, and in a very specific order, is inconceivable for me. I can like a lot of movies about the same and in no specific order.
Oh. I love putting things in order, especially movies!
Oh, ok.
But doing that wouldn’t make sense to my, from an objective point of view.
But it’s for favorites, not the “best ones”. That would be very difficult.
Spirit- Actually, I am a fan of the movie. It has stunning animation, as well as a soundtrack that is my favorite from WD Animation, aside from Pocahontas. I just had to point out the hypocrisy of the whole “second movie defeated the point, especially when the first movie did that on it’s own”
Oh, and I dislike the second movie. Every thing about that. Especially Phoebus and Esmeralda’s horrible child, who goes against the basic principles of genetics.
Oh, I’m glad. I think it’s one of the bestt things to come out from the studios, specially in those two aspects you mention.
I guess that didn’t bother me just because I’ve been watching that movie since I was like 5, so it never occurred to me that the ending wasn’t satisfactory. Honestly, I wouldn’t like the movie as much if Esmeralda had ended up with Quasimodo out of pity. She loved Phoebus(in this movie. I’m not talking about the old movie or the book.), so she should have married him.
Aw, you were quite young
I also think it’s much more satisfying that way. But I’m never interested in the guy getting the girl at the end, so I love movies that drop that, and maybe I’m biased.
I wonder if the Brave villain will be cool.