Was Ratatouille Ripped Off? (CNN Article)

cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/ … index.html

If this belongs somewhere else, then by all means move it. :wink:

Yes, I’ve read that before, but I love reading it, because it comes from CNN, a very serious group of people. Thanks for the link, JF! :slight_smile:

that just made me a bit more worried then usual. I really really want ratatouille to win!!! i don’t really get what they mean when they suggest ratatouille isn’t that ‘animated’

Sylvermagykan- I don’t think they’re implying that Ratatouille isn’t animated as such, but that it shouldn’t be separated from other, non-animated films simply because it is animated. The article is saying that Ratatouille is a film worthy of a Best Picture nomination, but because of the Best Animated Feature category, that was never going to happen.

And welcome to the forums. :smiley:

Thanks for the link, JF! I enjoyed reading that article. :smiley:

Personally I’m outraged a bit.
Beauty and the Beast won Best Picture several years ago and it was the first animated one to win. The fact that at least one won means others should have the opportunity.
And if nobody knows, the award givers are BIASED against Animated, Family, musical, and I think other in the Best Picture category. The fact these films aren’t given a chance makes the awards rigged.

While Beauty and the Beast was nominated in 1991, the winner was The Silence of the Lambs.

While I agree that it’s unfortunate that Ratatouille was pigeonholed into just the animated category, I would have been very surprised to see it beat No Country for Old Men (though I would have been rooting for it). Given that, the right choice was made. My bigger issue was the winner of best score, as I honestly believe Michael G’s was the best of those nominated (though Johnny Greenwood’s score for There Will be Blood was slighted by a technicality and should have been nominated too).

All that’s not to say that the Academy always makes the right decisions, in 1976 Rocky won best picture over Network, Taxi Driver, and All the President’s Men, and in 2005, Crash beat Good Night and Good Luck, Munich, and Capote. :unamused:

Maybe they should make a best children’s movie category. There’s no chance of a more mature movie such as Akira winning best animated picture OR best picture. That may be one of the reasons why they’re re-making Akira in live action. If they change best animated into best children’s, that would open the door for people to win awards for darker cartoons like A Scanner Darkly and The Animatrix.

Today’s concept of live action is silly anyway. Most live action movies are half animated. Is Lord of the Rings really a live action movie when most of the creatures are computer generated? In 300 the characters jumped around in front of blue screens while the special effects people did the real work. Yes, that entire movie was filmed indoors, against a blue screen. Maybe a distinction needs to be made between animated and cartoons.

The Academy is usually slow to pick up on changes. When Tron was made, they where disqualified from the special effects award, because they “cheated” by using computers. Ha.

I guess this is why they have the People’s Choice Awards. :laugh:

Yeah I’ve heard stuff about this before about animated movies in general. Now that they have this Best Animated Movie category that may sway people away from nominating it for Best Picture. I still think there should be categories for Best Comedy and Best Drama because if a comedy and a drama are both nominated for Best Picture, usually the drama wins. Which is too bad because comedies get no respect. I know a lot of them arent very good but still, it’s a lot harder to get me to laugh than to get me to empathize with someone.

Yeah, comedies are the hardest thing to write, but somehow people are embarrassed to admit they like anything that isn’t serious. If it’s a comedy, it has to have some deep political meaning, most people won’t admit they enjoyed a movie like dumb and dumber.

I love the show House, but I think it could do without a lot of the drama. If it was less serious it would be like a better version of scrubs. There aren’t many sitcoms on these days like there were in the 90s. A lot of those sitcoms were bad, but everything is a crime drama or something now.

Hmm…I wonder if Suspense action/adventure films are the ONLY films to win the Best Picture…

Pfft. The oscars has always had a bias against animation, and it stinks. It also has an annoying bias towards anything dealing wit the enviroment or pop culture, hense Cars not winning best animated film. Never really recouped my respect for them after that one.

In some ways of course it did.

The Oscars are a joke in many ways. Martin Scorsese, one of the greatest filmmakers in the last century didn’t win one until 2006 and George Lucas has never won one because he’s not apart of the Academy or Directors Guild because of something he did in 1977. Keeping his integrity and not compromising his artistic vision.

The Academy is a group of grumpy old white men who only give you their awards if you play nice, by their rules, and suck up enough to get in their little club. Take for example Cars, Pixar made a simpler type movie with lovable characters and an “enjoy the journey” message and the Academy snubbed them and gave the award to Happy Feet. “Are you joking me? That won?”

Juno nominated for Best Picture? Are you serious? That movie is nothing more than hipster feel-good garbage.

There Will Be Blood should have won in my opinion, but No Country for Old Men was a good film besides some odd composition and an awkward ending, so I’m not too upset. But Ratatouille is a far superior film to the likes of Michael Clayton and the vapid cotton candy piece of trash, Juno.

So, a nomination was more than deserved.

I think they lost credibility not when Happy Feet won over Cars but when Shrek won over Monsters,Inc. back in 2001.

In addition, they have a severe short term memory loss, nominating movies released from october to january and calling it the award season.