What is it about the first Toy Story?

Has anyone else felt the first toy story was the most realistic work Pixar has done? And I dont mean in terms of how the it acctualyl looks, but more how they designed it. in most other pixar movies, things look more real but the people land objects look more cartoonlike. in the first toy story, at times when its just the toys alone, it really looks like it isnt even animated. Im having a hard time describing this, but has anyone noticed what im trying to say? :unamused:

Pretty simple, they caricatured the other movies more because when you go too realistic you run into uncanny valley, the term used to describe the almost but not quite effect the movie gives off. Their almost embarrassed of the humans in particular in toy story because their proportions were a bit too realistic, which in turn makes them creepier and more animated mannequin like. Going more stylized in later movies is how they side step this issue. And in animation this is what you want to do, it makes everything more lively.

Of course, you cant just caricature the characters, the world has to match.

I agree with him. :smiley: Besides, the more cartoony style is much more artistic and child friendly. I do agree with you, and I do see your point, though. :smiley:

I kind of feel the opposite because I thought Wall-E was Pixar’s most realistic work when I saw it. There were a lot of scenes where it really felt like it was live-action and the story itself felt very real, and showing footage of real actors with the animated humans helped with that. Toy Story also has realism to it, but at the same time it’s obviously a cartoon cause it’s about toys that can talk. I would put Monsters Inc., Finding Nemo and Cars in that category as well (especially Cars, being a completely unrealistic world where it could only be a cartoon).

Well, every Pixar movie has that sense of obvious fantasy in which inanimate objects or animals talk and stuff. But, I do see how Wall-E is realistic feeling. Obviously because of the live action, but also it was stylized most closely to how the real world is. The metal, the dirt, the sounds, the movement, everything like that. But, I do too find Toy Story more realistic, because of the humans. In the first one, all the objects, lighting, etc. seems very real. The humans have real-world proportions, but of course back in that time they could only make them so complex as far as skin tone, hair, clothes, and all those things they’ve now mastered. The second Toy Story had more realistic humans, namely Al, but then something else changed to make it different than the first. I remember someone talking about their lighting, how in the first movie the light would come from 1 source, just like the sun or a lamp or something, but now the light comes from everywhere, even in the shadows it bounces off everything to make everything a little more brighter and I suppose to make it more cartoony and less realistic


Not sure what your talking about regarding the lighting. in the real world light does bounce like that.

Also, Al is hardly realistic, just look at his stubby little legs, they would never be able to carry that much weight. its more believable because of how he’s animated, but I wouldnt say realistic.

In my opinion, they should’nt look realistic. They’re supposed to feel real in the sense that you connect with the characters and almost feel their emotions right along with them. The people creep me out when they look too real, it’s like watching Shrek or something. Plus, the more cartoony style is more artistic, as well as more accesible and kid friendly. :smiley:

I agree with that. for all of pixars other movies such as Wall-E its awesome and a great style. but for some reason I prefer toy story in the style of the first one. at least when humans arent involved :laughing: but dont get me wrong, for other movies its clearly better the other way.

Well I know someone mentioned the lighting on here, just don’t remember where. And I guess Al’s body isn’t that realistic, but I guess I was just thinking of his face, like his beard and all that when Woody’s climbing on him


I think part of the reason Toy Story looks realistic is that yes, the characters are cartoon-y, but they’re also toys, which CAN be cartoony. In contrast to the fish in Finding Nemo, or the bugs in A Bugs Life, which are cartoony and therefore unrealistic. It’s the fact that these are toys and can be any shape or size that makes them quite realistic.

That’s a good way to put it.

That raminds me, does anyone notice that Woody and Buzzes facial expressions seem to more catroonlike or at least different that they were in the presvious films. you cant really notice it in trailers, more in posters and things like that.

I’ve noticed that they are a lot more expressive now than before, which I think is because of how the technology has improved. The trailer for Toy Story in 3D was a good example of seeing that:

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Yeah, this is due to different topology (ie, arangment of the wire frames that make up their geometry) that distorts better. They don’t just grab the same models from movie to movie, they recreate them from scratch. Each more flexible than the last. The new models give the animators more control over their expressions and poses. you’ll notice less lumpy looking expressions.

One of the weirdest expressions I think Ive witnessed was in TS2, when Bo Peep kisses buzz. His pucker is something that would look a lot different if done today I think.

I disagree, I think the weirdest expression in any of the TS movies is Slinky’s expression on the moving van right after Lenny announces that “Woody and Buzz coming up fast” in the first Toy Story. The expression is borderline off-model for Slinky, and looks really weird.

said one of, not the wierdest. But I’ll have check that specific one and get back to ya for my thoughts on that. I don’t remembering anything sticking out to me though.

I think Toy Story fits somewhere between “stuffed animal” and “humanoid robot”. PIXAR’s been kicking the uncanny for years now.
In terms of realism however, I think the toys from the first Toy Story look the most realistic out of all the films, since the old computer technology deliberately makes them look plastic-y. With the newer films, their features got touched upon and looked more like cartoon toys.