HAHA! Pixarian Church! I certainly belong there with you guys. Cool idea, Virginia!
P.S. The services won’t collide with your Baptist ones! 
Well here I go. little_chef_eve09, I thought your response was the best, so if it would be ok, I’ll just use it here to recite my beliefs:
“I believe that Jesus was the Son of God who died on the cross for our sins and rose again three days later. I believe the entire Bible was inspired directly from God and written by people he trusted. I firmly advocate the sanctity of life (that is, I am pro-life) and oppose gay marriage. I also strongly believe that heaven and hell exist.”
And if you have questions about this, I’ll answer it with Scripture.
Konrad: highfive woot, woot! Another Jesus freak in 'da house! 
little chef
I feel super torn. I mean not with religion as a whole; I’m 100% sure I’m a Baptist, but my uncle’s gay. I think it’s wrong, but I’m feeling a little lost. 
In what way Incredigirl? How are you torn?
B/c I would like to think that my uncle doesn’t “want” to be gay, but that seems to be how it is.
Yes, I’ve heard people say that before too. You can carry that to a logical conclusion, and my dad had me do that in a different situation.
I used to be a huge video gamer. I didn’t need school, food, or sleep if I had Halo Combat Evolved and an Xbox, since that was all I did and all I wanted to do. To make a long story short, my dad told me that I was obsessed with gaming and I was wasting my teenage years. I told him that “it was just the way I was” and there wasn’t any changing it. He decided to take the games away for a month and then decide at the end of the month whether or not he would let me continue playing games.
You know what? At the end of the month I had developed a lot more interests (PIXAR, Leo Laporte, and even just swinging outside to think and listen to music). He knew that it wasn’t “just the way I was”, he knew that it was an addiction that had to be broken. I’m glad he did it.
Now I’m not saying that gaming is a moral sin, but the way I was doing it made it a sin (it was a first commandment thing).
Any addiction or sin can be destroyed if we ask God to help us and forgive us.
That actually kind of makes sense.
That’s really a huge load of my chest. I was scared to death that you may have been offended.
I have to say, I do think gaming and being gay are two very different situations. In the case of gaming, it’s unlikely that you’re going to be genetically predisposed to be a gamer, whilst with homosexuality, well sexuality is an integral part of being a human being and hence it isn’t far-fetched for homosexuality to partly be biologically determined. I do think it’s a balance between nature and nurture, though- as all things seem to be.
Just my opinion, though it is a very interesting topic of discussion, and one that can impact many people’s lives. I know someone who was as equally torn as you are, IncredigirlVirginia, but in the end she accepted her father’s homosexuality because, essentially, her father loved her and that’s all that mattered to her.
Thank you, lizardgirl.
Ain’t no fault - it’s a fact
I was born this way - yeah
Now I won’t judge you - don’t you judge me
We’re all the way nature meant us to be
As far as I’m concerned, love is love. And it doesn’t matter whether it comes from inside or out.
lizardgirl, if you know that God hates homosexuality but you have a loved one that is committing that sin, I know it’s a terrible thing. I know that gaming and homosexuality are two VERY different things, but it was a sin for me. I’m following the logical conclusion here.
EDIT: Also, homosexuality isn’t biological. It’s a choice. There’s a lot of evidence for that (do some Google searches and you’ll see what I mean).
Good point, Konrad. I agree with the Muslim point of view in this situation- hate the sin, not the sinner (though admittedly Muslims don’t always follow this practice). God wants you to love and respect your family, but if a family member does something that God seems to disaprove of, are you meant to abandon this family member?
It’s very true that as someone who doesn’t believe in God, I’m not able to understand or experience what it’s like to love God and to feel the need to follow what He believes I should do. So because of that it’s very difficult for me to identify with those that do have that viewpoint.
I hope this doesn’t come across as an argument or me being hostile or anything, because honestly, I’m really not. I love a good debate, especially about religion, but it’s difficult over the internet because sometimes people come across differently when you’re just reading what they’ve written instead of chatting to them about it face to face. I guess we’d better agree to disagree. 
I generally try to stay out of these threads because religion annoys me, but come on, comparing being gay to playing a game? Thats insane!
I guess I am agnostic, but I am positive that if there is a God it will not punish someone for loving a person of the same sex. I just cannot believe there are still people who think it is a sin to be gay, it frustrates me.
I never said that we should abandon the family member. On the contrary, I believe that we should love the person and be a witness for Christ in the situation. And no, Muslims don’t follow their own protocol very often. 
Agree to disagree? Yeah, probably so. We’re both speaking from two very different worldviews, so we’ll never come to the same conclusion. I hope I didn’t sound hostile, I’m very sorry if I did. 
St_Jons: If you think that God is fine with that, I can show you some verses if you want. But (again), we’re coming from two different worldviews.
I respectfully disagree,Lizardgirl.There have been many examples of people not born Homosexual.I also Strongly dislike when people make a parallel with African Americans and Homosexuality.I believe That God does not hate anyone,but also I believe that Homosexuality is immoral.People make excuses like"What about Blacks,look at the freedom they have,why can’t it be the same with us?"Or something like that.It has nothing to do with that.Just think about it is it really natural for a man to be with a man or a woman to be with a woman?
Very true xCarsLuverx.
xCarsLuverx: It’s love, either way. That’s all I can really say on the matter without getting too emotionally invested. Maybe agreeing to disagree is the best option, before this thread gets any uglier.
Oh no, on the contrary Konrad, I was just making sure that I didn’t come across like that. So basically we’re both being very amicable, just the way I like it. And you’re right, very different worldviews indeed.
That’s an interesting point xCarsLuverx, but then I would say, what about when nature itself demonstrates homosexuality? We’re not the only species to engage in such acts. Animals don’t have the same level of consciousness that we do, and yet they do such things as well. According to the Bible, if God created all of nature and all of the animals, he also designed some animals to engage in homosexual acts.
But this is getting off topic now, and as St_Jons said, this is why I usually don’t post on these sorts of threads too much, because the viewpoints are just so contrasting and no-one agrees in the end. So I’m gonna leave it there for now, as much as I do find such a topic very interesting.
I don’t think it’s not even about that… but yea maybe we should especially since I’m in a PMS mood…