Wich bad guys do you think are real from any pixar movie and wich do you think are not?
share all your thoughts on pixar bad guys here
for now these are the bad guys i think are really bad:
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Sydrom
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Hopper
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Zurg
Wich bad guys do you think are real from any pixar movie and wich do you think are not?
share all your thoughts on pixar bad guys here
for now these are the bad guys i think are really bad:
Sydrom
Hopper
Zurg
Ego dude was he evil? idk its been years since i last saw that movieā¦ the dentist from finding nemo lol
Ego is not evil he was just doing his job
and the dentist from finding nemo was not evil too
every dentist i know has a fish tank full of fish its just what you find when you go to a doctors office
If there is anyone who came close, I think it would be Syndrome. He killed real heroes so he could ābecomeā one. Killing someone, in my opinion, is just cruel. ANd look at how many he killed.
my dentist has them painted on the wall lol he doesnt have a fish tank. also he stole nemo from the ocean. id at least buy one from a petstore where they are bred to be in tanks
But it doesnāt nessecarily means he is evil.
The dentist thought he was saving an injured fish who would have otherwise died in the ocean. (I doubt the dentist is aware of the strong family structure of sea animals in the Finding Nemoverse either.)
and he [the dentist] is not trying to be evil
Ahā¦the thought of a nice discussion of Pixar villians makes me happy.
Toy Storyās Sid, I believe, is the most basic of all the Pixar villains. What inspires him to be so evil to the toys, and why is he so morbid? Pixar needed an outside character to scare the toys, but I really think its Woody and Buzzās initial animosity toward each other that is the real villain.
A Bugās Lifeās Hopper is the villain of all villains. A friend of mine once called Hopper a Hitler of some sort. He doesnāt just want to scare the ants, he also genuinely wants them to believe that they are inferior, and make them slaves to him. Now anybody who wants to be a slave and not able to control their own life!
I think Toy Story 2ās Al and Ratatouilleās Skinner are both driven by the same thing. Theyāve both driven by greed and the longing for monetary wealth āItās like printing my own money!ā Al doesnāt see the sentimentality that Andy has toward the toys. Skinner only sees Gusteauās death as an opportunity to bank in his fame and celebrate mediocrity instead of excellence. Ego is not a villain, which is why I think the storytelling there is excellent in making you think that he is.
I havenāt thought much about Monsters Incās Randall. I always saw his motives to just be better than Sulley. Randallās in it for the fame and recognition, but I think Sulley and Mike are in it because they just love scaring kids!
Finding Nemo and Cars donāt have traditional villains. For Finding Nemo, itās the fear of the unknown that drives Marlin, Dory, Nemo, and their tank gang to their actions. The dentist never once knows of Nemoās story, so heās not really evil, just ignorant. What I love so much is how much Pixar used traditional Greek mythology techniques to tell their story! And in Cars, although The King and Chick Hicks are Lightning McQueenās initial motives to his actions, Lightning McQueen really forces the greed upon himself.
And Iād have to agree wtih TSS, the fact that The Incrediblesā Syndrome would kill other superheroes just so he could become one is the lowest of the low. It ranks among Hopper as a huge villain whoād rather suppress others just to make himself look great to others. I just love how Syndrome is so evil that he can bring Mr. Incredible to a new low by falsely causing him to believe Mr. Incredible can really revert to the Glory Days, even though itās just a plan to get Syndrome to show off how āgreatā Syndrome is.
WALL-Eās BuyNLarge is what I believe is the most unique of all their villains. Auto is merely following his ādirective,ā so heās not a villain. By encouraging everyone to consume and consume some more, Buy N Large successfully used their tactics to make humans forget what living life is really like to the point they donāt even know what theyāre missing. Itās Buy N Large that facilitated earthās downfall, a symbol of mindless wasting.
I love how Pixar rarely has conventional villains. Itās just so āPixarā to have a story without some main, evil antagonist.
I think Sid is pretty evil, as Pixar villains go. Heās a real villain but at the same time, he is just a messed up kid, yet in the eyes of Woody and Buzz, heās a villain- after all, he tried to kill both of them as some point or another.
Hopper is pretty villainous as well, and I would consider him to be the worst Pixar villain. He, as TheIncredible said, really wants the ants to feel inferior, and this makes him especially evil.
Syndrome is a bit different to the othersā¦Clearly, heās a villain, but we get to see WHY he became the person he is. This makes him a really 3D villain, but still, his actions are pretty inexcusable.
Generally, I have to agree with what TheIncredible has said, with the addition of Waternoose as a villain; a pretty unique villain at that, because we donāt even get to see that he is a villain until nearly the end of the film.
The dentist, P.Sherman, wasnāt really intending to hurt anyone. He thought he saved Nemoās life. But shouldnāt he be aware of his nieceās problem?
As for Sid, he is a villain from the toysā point of view. But he didnāt know he was hurting anyone. He had no idea that the toys were alive and had feelings. He was basically making weird voodoo-like creations. I think Sid felt that had nothing else to do, so he just made things out of toy parts. But then again, he may also be a bully to real people. Maybe he stole some toys from people. XD
Syndrome (Buddy) might have been a good guy if Mr. incredible gave him a chance when he was a kid. He just wanted to get revenge on someone who put him down. However, he went too far. Killing off people who have done nothing to him is pretty evil.
Randall was following Waternooseās orders. However, you can see that he also wanted to do it. He wanted to ārevelutionize the scare industryā so that Sully would work for him. He didnāt mention the other monsters that would work for him also. He only said āJames P. Sullivanā, as if that was something in it for him.
Chick Hicks isnāt strongly evil. Just self-centered and jealous.
Ego was just picky because probably something he felt was missing from his life.
Auto was just strictly following his directive. He had no mind of his own, and lacked feelings that Wall-E and Eve had.
Thatās my opinion.
Hereās my antagonist classification:
Villain- Truly evil.
Bad Guy- An antagonist thatās not completely evil for different reasons.
Misunderstood- Thought to be a villain, but not.
Toy Story:
Sid Phillips
Bad Guy
Heās a bad guyā¦ to the toys, to everyone else, heās just a bratty kid who doesnāt take care of his toys.
Scud
Bad Guy
Heās a crazy dog!
A Bugās Life:
Hopper
Villain
Heās pure evil, and manipulative. He just wants to put people down so he doesnāt have to do any work.
The Bird
Misunderstood
It just wants to eat.
Grasshopper Gang
Bad Guys
Theyāre just following orders, and being scared into doing it.
PT Flea
Misunderstood
Heās just greedy.
Thumper
Bad Guy
Heās a mindless character, but heās still bad.
Toy Story 2:
Al McWhighin
Bad Guy
Heās just a greedy guy, but from the toys perspective heās much more villainous. He doesnāt know toys have feelings too.
Zurg
Bad Guy/Villain
I think heās just a big joke. In the opening heās a true villain, but in the rest of the movie, heās just a gag.
Stinky Pete the Prospector
Bad Guy/Villain
His intentions are villainous, but he was made that way because he was never played with, in fact heās in mint condition.
Monsters, Inc.
Randall Boggs
Bad Guy
Heās not PURE evil, but he gets close during the end. I think heās just greedy and wnats recognition so he goes way too far to get it.
Mr. Waternoose
Bad Guy
Heās just trying to save the company and the city, but again, he goes way too far.
Fungus
Bad Guy
Typical evil henchman.
Finding Nemo
Darla
Bad Girl
Sheās just a bratty kid, but in the story, sheās a threat.
P. Sherman
Misunderstood
He was just trying to save Nemo.
Bruce
Misunderstood
A sharkās gotta eat!
The Anglerfish
Bad Guy
Itās an obstacle, but Iām sure he doesnāt have villainous intentions.
The Incredibles
Bomb Voyage
Villain
We donāt get to see much of him, but from that scene that he is in, we can tell heās villainous.
Syndrome
Villain/Bad Guy
This oneās hard to classify. He was made into a villain, but taht gives no excuse to kill just becasue he wnats to be super. So itās hard.
The Underminer
Villain
Cāmon, itās obvious, heās a supervillain!!
Omnidroid
Bad Guy/Misunderstood
Itās a learning machine, but it can be controlled to some extent, then again it [em]is[/em] a machine.
Cars
Chick Hicks
Bad Guy
He really, REALLY wnats to win the Piston Cup, but like many other Pixar villains, he goes too far to get it. But itās just greed, not pure evil.
Ratatouille
Skinner
Villain/Bad Guy
Heās pretty clearly evil, trying to bring people down for his own pleasure. But then again he isn;t hurting anybody (physically that is) so itās hard to tell.
Mabel
Bad Girl
Sheās just a crazy old lady!!
Anton Ego
Misunderstood
Although he looks evil and isnāt the nicest person, he just went through troubled times and in the end he sees the errors of his ways which no pure evil person could do. And a critic has to be tough, itās his job.
Django
Misunderstood
Sometimes he comes off as bad since heās an obstacle, but he just wants what he thinks is best for Remy.
WALL-E
AUTO
Bad Guy
He IS bad, but itās not his fault, itās his directive.
GO-4
Bad Guy
Heās just a goon who couldnāt break free from his programming.
BuynLarge/Shelby Forthright
Misunderstood/Bad Guy
It did seem like an evil corporation, but they were just trying to make life easier, and again, went to far. So it depends how much of it was an accident for BnL to be classified.
So thatās it, tell me what you think.
wow
it looks like you took a lot of time on that
and i agree on everything you said
great job Martini833 and TheIncredible
martini: I can understand why you are having a hard time puting him either as a villain or a bad guy. But even though he was rejected by his hero, which tore him from the inside, he still killed a lot of famous Supers and created a deadly robot that even he couldnāt stop. I think that is pretty low to go if you asked me. I say he is maybe 95% evil and 5% badguy. (maybe 5% misunderstoos)
You know, I have to say that it always seemed as though Mr. Incredibleās rejection of Buddy at the beginning of the film was more the thing that pushed him over the edge, rather than being the single cause of Buddyās descent into villainy.
From what we see of Buddy as a child, his parents clearly have plenty of money but no time for him. Heās very, very intelligent yet also really alone. He therefore ends up idolizing Mr. Incredible, and due to the other factors of Buddyās childhood, this makes the rejection all the more painful.
Itās not as if Buddy is like any other fan that might be disappointed by the reaction of their hero- I wouldnāt be surprised if Mr. Incredible had met dozens of others fans and had reacted in a similar way to them (though perhaps not to such an extent). The thing that separates Buddy from all of these other fans is his home situation. Heās been rejected by his parents, and now by the one person he admires the most, the one person who he would expect not to reject him? What else is there to do aside from turning evil and making people pay attention to him?
Of course, what he did was very, very wrong. But itās not as though he was born a ābad appleā. Itās just that with the combination of his high intelligence (causing him to overthink everything), and the money he gets from his parents instead of love, he eventually turns into something that perhaps can be considered evil and villainous.
martini, I would flip-flop your choices for the the villains in WALL-E. I think BuyNLarge is really to blame, they make it very clear from the beginning. I would also call Auto and GO-4 just misunderstood.
Lizardgirl, thatās probably the best description of Syndrome Iāve ever read. His character has so much depth!
I will maintain that Wall-E has no villain at all. But thatās all Iāll say for now as I intend to either write an extensive editorial on it or bring it up on Radio Pixar in the future. =)
thats a good idea and i also donāt think there is any bad guys in Finding Nemo and Cars
and i also think that andrew stanton and jhon lasseter donāt like to put bad guys in their movies
TheIncredible- Thanks! And thatās exactly what makes Buddy a credible and interesting villain- we understand what his motives are.
Pixart- I agree, they both seem to have a tendency towards films with perhaps a minor antagonist or something, but no real villains. Thatās what great about Pixar- theyāve realised that you donāt have to have two sides fighting against each other to make a good story.
Hopperā¦all the way.
Syndrome is only a mimick of what a bad guy is.
and Zurg is ultimately Buzzās dad so their is no way he keeps his evil ways (reminds me of Star Wars)
Hopper is just all pure evil not even being effected by pleads of desperation. All he wants is to lead a big BIG bad gang.