I keep wanting to put Toy Story 3 higher, though… I just watched it the other day, and it’s one of those movies (like Ratatouille) that just keeps getting better and better. Maybe I’ll change my TS rankings to 1, 3, 2. I don’t know about 3, 1, 2… Maybe. Three way-tie for the entire trilogy?
Yeah, basically. I constantly change my list, so movies that are within the top 5 have all pretty much been #1 at some point. I think I’ll stick with Ratatouille as the best, unless it’s topped by a better movie, of course.
I disregard Cars as Pixar’s weakest films, but I wouldn’t say they’re just for himself, judging by the huge fanbase that franchise has, bigger in fact, than any other from the studio.
Sometimes I wonder if the reason for the enormous success of Cars merchandise is because the films essentially have a monopoly on all generic car-related merchandise for children, which would exist regardless of Pixar. Does that make sense? I mean, what kid wants to buy just a regular racecar item when he can buy one with a familiar racecar character?
Now, in terms of Pixar fanbases outside of young children, I’m not sure if Cars is truly the biggest. Outside of Pixar Planet I’ve only heard three people discuss the films positively (note: this is not a hyperbole), and then other friends I have (young and old) who collect some Disney/Pixar merchandise don’t own a single item with a Cars character on it. I have a feeling the Toy Story franchise has a larger “fanbase” among adults and teenagers, but maybe I’m wrong about that. On Facebook alone I heard a substantially greater number of friends discuss the third TS film when it was in theaters, whereas Cars 2 was scarcely mentioned. This may be a culture thing, however, as the three Cars fans I mentioned earlier have similar cultural beliefs and taste (I won’t mention specifically what because I don’t want to make the Cars fanbase seem full of stereotypes). Maybe things would be reversed in a different state or region, where people actually enjoy Nascar and country music. I’m not joking when I say that in the city of Chicago no one I know now or knew growing up listened to country music outside of artists who broke into the general pop mainstream (i.e. Taylor Swift), and therefore hearing it in a Pixar film was comparable to perhaps a fifty-year-old suburban mom hearing rap music or thrash metal in a different Pixar film—rather off-putting and uncomfortable, in other words. I know I’m just talking about a few songs, but I truly think music genres are rather significant in having multiple cultures and generations connect to a film. So anyway, to sum up this whole paragraph, maybe Cars does have the biggest fanbase on multiple levels and I just have a skewed perception of that due to my upbringing/surrounding environment. If that’s the case, then I will shut up.
Several of Pixar’s recent films don’t present great merchandising opportunities, such as rats and grown-ups in the largely adult Ratatouille, a 70-something protagonist in Up, etc. It’s almost like the toy producers just gave up, and yet what often makes young children attached to certain films are blankets, dolls, plates, T-shirts, and plushies that refer to characters from those respective films. Take Disney princess films, for example, or even Cars. I was disappointed in how little Up merchandise was available in 2009, because the movie was hugely popular; I would love to own a full-grown Kevin plush, a Dug figurine that talks, young (child) Carl & Ellie figurines, and even a small model playset of the Up house complete with fake balloons. But maybe that’s just me? I should just sculpt my own toys already!
It’s true Cars is the most hated Pixar film out there, but it’s also the one with most vocal and obsessive fans, which I think makes it counts as the biggest fanbase. Not to compare it to Twilight, as it doesn’t deserves it, but it’s a similar case. The franchise is hugely hated, but fans somehow manage to overthrown that with their obsessive love.
The other Pixar films surely attract most people who admire them and love them because of their quality (specially among cinefiles), but I’ve never seen they create the same type of obsession, which makes my point that the Cars films aren’t just for John Lasseter.
I wasn’t trying to say that the Cars films are just for Lasseter in general. You see, it felt like nobody over at Pixar wanted to do a sequel and the amount of people who left the studio during production kind of shows that. Just my little theory.
[i]1- Toy Story
2- Toy Story 3
3- Cars
4- Up
5- Toy Story 2
6- The Incredibles
7- Monsters Inc
8- Finding Nemo
9- Ratatouille
10- Wall-E
11- A Bug’s Life
12- Cars 2
Only diffrence is A Bug’s Life and Cars 2 have switched.
I would say this is mostly due to the amount of hate towards it. I don’t like how you classify us Cars fans like that though. I’ll admit that I am obsessive and maybe you consider me vocal for pointing this out, but I don’t like the way people constantly label us like that. We are just the same as any other fans. All movies have both obsessive and vocal fans. I bet there’d be a whole lot of vocal fans if people started hating on Wall-E, but they don’t. Hence why Cars suffers from more vocal fans than other films. I just wanted to make it clear that we aren’t all like that. I know many Cars fans who are both willing to accept others opinions and can sympathize that it may be considered one of Pixar’s weakest films.
David: Oh, wow! You really saw a difference between the two films, didn’t you?
I don’t say obsessive as a negative thing. Everyone knows I’m extremely obsessive over a lot of things, so I don’t judge it as a bad matter.
But I’ve noticed that in fan sites such as this, the amount of obsessive Cars fans is bigger than in the other franchises, and that’s what I was pointing in my post.
So don’t worry, that obsessiveness is perfectly fine with me
Spirit: OK, because it just sounded like it was meant in a negative way. I’d say we have a decent number of Cars fans on here, but I don’t think there are more than the other films. I like the gang we’ve got here best though.
David: Yeah, me too, I like the original a fair bit more.