Oh, the Annie’s already happened? Oh well, I don’t mind missing them myself.
I think Movielover is every bit right.
Hope I’m not sounding a bit pushy, but what did you guys think of my thoughts?
Personally I agree with every word you said Jordan.
I disagree. I think the arguments are perfectly answered by Movielover’s simply post.
I kind of expected that. But I think they made some big mistakes. My favorite being Happy Feet winning. But I won’t argue too much since that year wasn’t very good for animation.
Every category has had lots of so called “mistakes” (a subjective terminology).
That doesn’t mean the category should be removed, just a bad decision that year by the voters.
I’m not saying the category should be removed because of that, I was saying that the category has its own mistakes.
Thank you 
im glad i could settle that argument. Now, changing the subject, who do you think will win out of the actual nominees for Best Picture?
Hmm. I have second thoughts on Hugo as I don’t think it’ll win. Probably going with The Artist or The Help.
The Artist. Pretty sure.
Hugo is second, doubtlessly, but not by close, so I don’t think it has any possibilities. The Help has even less.
Oh, I do hope so!
I don’t mind the Best Animated Feature category. Without it, animation would hardly be recognized, that’s the honest truth. In the past 20 years, only 3 animated movies have been nominated for best picture. And that’s only because for 2010 & 11 they had 10 slots. It sucks, I know, but it’s the honest truth. I’d rather there be a category, so the films get their recognition.
Also, in an ideal world, the award for animation could be for best animation, just like there’s a cinematography oscar. The animation oscar would go to the movie with the best animation of the year. But people vote this categor for best overal animated film.
I ahte to be a downer about it, but no time soon will an animated film get best picture, even ones as great as Up and TS3. So at least they’re getting recognition with this AF oscar.
I’m unsure about the Best Animated Feature category. On one hand I agree with Jordan in that its separating animated films from live action ones, no matter how good they may be, and putting them into their own box. The increase of 10 nominations is argumentative of course, but it does look suspiciously like The Dark Knight and WALL-E were the main reasons for it, two films which really bypassed what the Academy’s rigid mindset feels that an animated film and a comic book adaptation should do. To even have that presumption is pretty depressing. I guess at the end of the day I feel that a film is a film, and should not be judged on medium or genre; it should be judged on it’s quality.
On the other hand, the BAF category has really upped the quality in animated films in the last 10, and it has also introduced a Western audience to quite a few foreign language films that the general audience would’ve never noticed otherwise. It’s also nice that animators and people involved in animation vote for who gets nominated, and that the Academy see that as a notable profession. So who knows? I don’t feel the category should be scrapped. Maybe a few tweaks here and there.
I guess that’s true. It would be good if AT LEAST one animated film gets nominated for “Best Picture” a year. For example, have an animated film like Rango get the nod, and have something else take its place. Something like Winnie the Pooh which I felt was snubbed a little bit.
I agree with you^^.
I don’t think Pooh was snubbed, just wasn’t reconized by the Academy.
I would hate that rule. That would mean an animated film has to receive a nomination every year, and what when we have years when there isn’t any worthy animated film? Think of 2006. Would you like any of those films to be a Best Picture nominee?
Or take this year, for that matter. None of those films is Best Picture material. Not even Rango.
I agree with SoA, I don’t think the ruling would work. It isn’t too bad as it is really, the whole system, all i’d change is the Academy’s perceptions of what an animated film should be.
Yeah, I think the BFA category is just a safety net for great films that won’t be recognized for BP, so at least the animation category will allow for some prestige and recognition. I would, too, like if the Academy changed its perception of animated films, especially when they are so many Pixar films that are the highest-rated of the year. Sometimes I feel like the Oscars are like a family holiday and the live-action dramas are seated at the fancy schmancy big table while animated films are stuck at the kiddie table even after they’ve matured enough. 
Also, it almost seems certain that The Artist will win Best Picture, so I almost feel silly hearing speculations otherwise. I’ll eat my shoe if that film doesn’t win, although I did notice that Gold Derby moved Hugo up to second place in terms of predictions. Impressive. I wouldn’t complain if either film won.
Question: I’m not very familiar with categories like art direction, but why are animated movies never nominated for that? Or maybe they are and I haven’t noticed? Because animated films often seem to have some of THE BEST art direction I’ve seen. Hmm…
While I agree a lot of animated films have impressive Art Direction, I think the reason they’ve been ignored in that category is that it’s awarded to two people: the Art Director and the Set Decorator.
Technically, animated films lack of the whole process of Set Decoration, at least in the strict sense of the term.
So it’s sad that animated films don’t get recognized in that respect, but I guess it makes a little sense this time.
PS: Avatar did win the award on that category. I think it didn’t deserve it, because it was mostly an animated film, so the same rules should apply.