I’ve remembered another classic Disney film that I don’t like, and that’s Sleeping Beauty. Unlike The Little Mermaid though (which I hate) I can’t list a whole load of reasons and review it, I just find it…boring, and that’s all there is to it, as blunt and brief as that sounds.
Even though i so loved The Black Caoldron there were things in there that werent nessiary and made it seem worse than it was.
I don’t really care for Dumbo much, i havent seen it in a while but didnt Dumbo basicly change who he was? i didnt think that was a good message.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame i do like but the way the old man was has always just shocked me _ hes way to creepy and rapesty for little kids YDD not to mention sadistic
-3- i like The Little Mermaid a loot and not just cause of the music. The only reason Eric fell for the witch was cause he was uunder a spell and ive herd a song i that that was cut from the movie and it shows a lot of Ariel’s personalitly and how she loves Eric. AAaaannnddd to me the relationship with her father in the other movies is exacly what would lead to her being so upset with him.
There is not really a Disney movie I did not like. I always adore their work, for some reason.
I hate hate HATE Hannah Montana, the Jonas Bros and all those other talentless hacks, though
(And what’s wrong with Bambi? D: Bambi is awesome! Well, except for Thumper. What they made with the intentions of making a cute comic relief ended up being a… well, annoying comic relief. I can’t believe how that annoying rabbit has so many fans. Flower is so much more cuter.)
This thread is more for the Disney films that are considered classics by the masses that people that people didn’t like for whatever reason, like me with The Little Mermaid.
Hunchback wasn’t just a kids’ film though, and his lust for Esmerelda flies right over the heads of most kids anyway.
Um, Eric was never under a spell at any point in that film And what’s cut from the movie is irrelevant, I’m talking about the finished product.
Really? I think kids know a lot more than what we give them credit for. Me and all my friends understood what was going on when we watched it when we were little.
On the contrary, I never caught onto it watching the film as a little kid, nor did any of my friends (from those I’ve asked) I always assumed Disney intended to make it so it had one ongoing theme that kids could get (the acceptance of Quasimodo and the prejudice/mob hysteria associated with him (though not with that kind of terminology obviously) and adults would get that as well as the religious taboos that come up, Frollo’s lust for Esmerelda etc.
He didn’t change who he was, did he? He just learned a new skill and used it to overcome his troubles and get back at those who had created obstacles for him up until that point, like the clowns for example.
Me personally I love so many of them, not so much the new ones, but any pre-2000. I love Hercules, 101 Dalmatians, Pinochhio, Black Cauldron, Hunchback, Aladdin, Peter Pan etc etc.
Buttttt i don’t, and never had liked The Lion King, no reason, it just didn’t appeal to me .
I’m really sorry, but I just can’t help but point out somethings wrong with some people’s arguments here.
youtube.com/watch?v=Pg-li94kdxM, Ursula puts Eric under a spell after she changes forms and turns herself into a beautiful human woman.
I’m guessing you haven’t watched the film in forever, but Ariel sings Part of that World BEFORE she ever even sees Eric, thus stating that it was her dream to be apart of the human world, not just for Eric, but because it was just something that she’s always wanted. Seeing Eric just was the kick that made her actually do something about it.
I think that what most people get from the film is that you should follow your dreams. Plus, I could never actually see somebody doing that in real life xD
I’m sorry if I insult anyone, but like this is my favorite film of all time, I don’t understand why so many people hate on it, I can’t help but defend it
Okay, I’ll admit to having made a mistake there and I apologise for it, though it doesn’t help to explain how they fell in love with each other so quickly as someone appeared to be insinuating earlier.
No offence intended, but what does her singing Part of your World have to do in relation to what I said regarding her falling in love with him in 5 seconds? My complain with that song was related to her not having any reason to want to live on land aside from yearning for what she can not have. (Assuming you watched the video I linked to where I said all this, my apologies if not)
And if Eric was just a kick, that would be fair enough, but she’s proclaiming to be genuinly in love with him, crying over him etc, and she has a statue of him that she fawns over, it’s obsessive and downright creepy considering how she doesn’t know him at all, and even goes as far as to marry him at the end of the film.
I dunno, Ratatouille conveyed that message perfectly, as Remy had a genuine reason to want to peruse said dream not just for himself, but for his family as well, Ariel seemed to be like “land seems like fun…mm, I wanna live there now” and to me it felt as though that message took a back seat to the love story between Ariel and Eric.
Again I mean no offence with anything I’ve said here, I’m just defending my position is all, we all have differing tastes at the end of the day =)
Okay, I read this thread just now, and while The Little Mermaid isn’t my favorite film (Aladdin actually takes that place), I felt the need to jump in and point out something that needs to be addressed:
But Eric falls in love with Ariel at first sight too, so the whole relationship wasn’t just on Ariel’s part. After she rescues him, sings to him and disappears in the water, Eric becomes determined to find her. He had feelings for her ever since the beginning, and the only reason he even nearly married Vanessa (Ursula in disguise) was because he was cast under a spell.
Ariel had a fascination with the human world and wanted to be a part of it even before she meet Eric (as seen in the Part of Your World singing sequence). Her drive, her dream and her goal in the film was to be a part of the human world. Meeting Eric was what basically pushed her forward to be proactive and go for that goal. That was the whole point of the film.
If you’re arguing that Eric and Ariel’s relationship is unrealistic and it doesn’t have any buildup whatsoever, then yeah, I do agree with you. But honestly? That’s like that with most of the couples depicted in Disney films. You can pretty much argue the same thing with Snow White’s relationship with the Prince, Cinderella’s relationship with Prince Charming, and Aurora’s relationship with Phillip. Even Bambi/Faline (Bambi) and Tod/Vixie (Fox and the Hound) too. All of them meet, fall in love and marry each other in a short amount of time, without any significant development between both sides at all. Disney relationships are generally very unrealistic and idealistic, with the exception of Tiana and Naveen’s relationship in Princess and the Frog (and potentially Rapunzel and Flynn in Tangled too).
As for Ariel’s character, I can’t really say. But even though she isn’t my favorite Disney Princess, I still do like her and find her really cute. Yes she does take a huge risk to not only be a part of the human world but to also be with Eric too. While some people can find that trait gutsy and admirable, other people can find it self-centered and selfish. It’s all subjective, really.
With the exception of Tod/Vixie and Bambi/Faline, all of those stories were based on fairy tales that were so simple by their very nature, but The Little Mermaid was not a fairy tale, and Disney decided to turn it into one for some reason, and while their works were usually great films in their own right despite being different to the source material in some ways (and some more than others) The Little Mermaid wasn’t to me.
Also, The Beauty and the Beast’s love story did have development and build up, as did Tarzan and Jane’s, as well as Alladin and Jasmine’s, and it goes on.
Plus, I never saw Tod and Vixie was being in love, more “crushing” on each other for want of a better word, they never proclaimed true love for one another at any given time. I wanted their relathionship to get more on screen time to turn into something further, but it wasn’t as big a problem in that film as it was in The Little Mermaid where true love was proclaimed and was therefore much more important to the story.
Don’t get me wrong, I can understand why you dislike the movie, and I can respect you for that because I feel the exact same way towards Hunchback of Notre Dame. But the Little Mermaid IS infact a fairy tale, and a very popular one at that. Just had to point that out.
Mmm…can’t say I realised that. Still, even if it was a fairy tale, the love story was not nearly as prominent, wasn’t Ariel more keen to marry him because of a human soul or something along those lines? It wasn’t just her seeing him and thinking he was handsome, and in the end The Prince didn’t fall in love with her, did he? It’s been years since I read it, all I know is I rather liked the original story but hated the film personally,
Also, I adored The Hunchback of Notre Dame myself, as can be seen in my “Disney Renaissance Era Films Classification?” thread, me placing it second alongside Tarzan.
Actually the love story was prominent even in the original fairy tale, but the only difference is that the Prince falls in love with and marries another girl, and the little mermaid (she doesn’t actually have a name, she’s just called “the little mermaid” in the original) ends up dying and turning into foam. I actually studied this fairy tale in my children’s literature class, alongside the original Beauty and the Beast and Rapunzel stories too. There’s a lot of symbolism about life and death in these fairy tales, especially by the ones written by Hans Christian Andersen (but I have to say that I love the Disney versions of them just as much. xDDD I mean I literally grew up on these movies, lol).
I should also point out that most of Disney’s animated films are loosely based off existing books, fables, fairy tales, and even Shakespeare plays. Hunchback of Notre Dame, The Black Cauldron , 101 Dalmations, and even Tarzan, for example, were all based on existing books. Even The Fox and the Hound was also originally a novel which I actually read for myself at one point for a school project (which was a really good book btw. I really recommend it). You’d be surprised how different the book and the movie are from each other in terms of tone, theme, mood and the overall message.
As I said before though, I know most if not all of Disney’s films are based on existing stories, be it books, fairy tales etc, but to me they were almost all either good or outstanding films in their own right, I wouldn’t criticise a film for being different to its book counterpart alone, otherwise I’d have loathed Jurassic Park, which is a somewhat loose adaptation of one of my all time favourite books.
To me though it just wasn’t a very good film, but as I said before, we all have differing tastes at the end of the day.
Yeah I know, and it’s fine if you think that. Peoples opinions, tastes and interests are different after-all.
And for the sake of being on topic, I have to say asides from Hunchback I also disliked Oliver & Company. That film just felt too generic and “cutesy” for my liking, and it also lacked depth. :\
Mm, I remember being rather fond of Oliver and Company, been a while since I saw it though. And we were never really off topic as this thread is about classic Disney movies some of us liked for whatever reason.
Also, I read the synopsis for that book, and I’m not gonna lie, it sounds far too different to the film for my liking, I know the book came first but nostalgia makes me lean towards the type of story the film told.
Still, thanks for the proper discussion It’s really nice to have them, I must say.