I really don’t have that many fond memories of Cinderella. I haven’t been able to watch the film in a while, even though I love the character now, I used to think that she was a little too bland for me. I mean, I really can’t see a strong princess like Ariel sitting through all the crap that she had to go through. But that was then, I happen to love the film now .
I know this whole Little Mermaid thing is kinda like dead and all, but I just wanted to point out that I think that King Triton is also a very dynamic character in the story. I mean, when people talk about how horrible the film is, they pretty much say that they think that it’s wrong for Ariel to run away from the family that loved her. But, I think that Triton just wanted to protect her, like in Finding Nemo. And he thought about humans, the same way Mike and Sulley thought of them. I know in the Broadway play at least, Triton has a lot more character development and pretty much says that he was wrong for holding Ariel back.
I had no problem with King Triton though, nor implied one in this thread. In fact the only two characters I actually had any kind of issue with were Ariel and Eric but they were the two leads so it was enough to kill the film for me, particularly Ariel. I liked Flouder, Sebastian, King Triton etc, I just woulda liked them a lot more if they were in a better film, but that’s just me speaking there.
I never saw The Black Cauldron, weirdly enough. And out of the Renaissance (wow, that’s probably spelled wayyy wrong ) The Little Mermaid was my least favorite. Beauty and the Beast is my all-time favorite Disney movie, but I love Aladdin too. Pretty much all of them. There is not one that I dislike
The Black Cauldron wasn’t a bad film per say but it was definitley one of weakest films Disney made, it didn’t really feel like a Disney film to me, it felt more like a generic World of Warcraft sort of film in animated form. (I did still think Home on the Range and The Little Mermaid were the worst though)
EDIT: Also, I can’t spell the word to save my life, or pronounce it, I had to copy it from a Google search XD
I completely forgot about Home on the Range. Now, that was a bad Disney movie. I don’t remember much of it, just how much I hated it. And from what I can remember of previews and such for The Black Cauldron, it did look way different from other Disney movies.
Home on the Range had worse writing and characters than many Saturday Morning Cartoons I’ve seen, not to mention, the animation was an obvious step down from even their previous film, Brother Bear. The fact they try to pass it off as a Walt Disney Classic is baffling to me, I can understand it with The Black Cauldron and even The Little Mermaid, but not that film.
Wow, I didn’t know they tried to. That’s just sad. I didn’t mind Brother Bear, actually. Some of the songs were good, and it was emotional to me. I wouldn’t call it a classic, but it was no where near as bad as HonR.
Brother Bear was no classic, but it’s certainly good enough to warrant me buying the DVD somewhere down the line. I actually think Disney’s best film of the decade just gone by was Bambi II, and that’s not to say “they were all so bad a sequel was their best” I genuinly loved that film.
Wow. Call me crazy, but I’m drawing a complete blank. I have adored (or at least enjoyed) basically ever Disney film I’ve seen, and I’ve seen most all of them, at least the more mainstream ones. Well, maybe I thought Shaggy Dog (the older one) was kind of… meh, but not even that bad.
-Little Mermaid: 3/10: I love the music, and Ariel’s hair. Hate the movie(yes, hate.)
Love HoND. I love it. I like Esmeralda, Frollo, Phoebus, and Quasimodo. Also love the real-looking Notre Dame depiction. Very emotional film for me. Sorry.
It’s not my favorite Disney classic, but I really like The Little Mermaid. I can understand everyone’s reasons for disliking it, though. It does suffer from some “pockmarks”, shall we say. But I’d say there are many great aspects to it that balance those faults out. The music, animation, and overall deeper feelings, for one.
I love the music, and adore the character design. I just have very Conservative morals and can’t believe Disney would spawn a girl like Ariel, since most of their animated features are very child-appropriate. If I did that, or my daughter behaved in that way, I’d go ahead and kill myself. All I’m saying is Ariel is way too loose, and Eric’s not worth it.
Well, I think that might’ve been the point- Disney was known for a string of flawless heroines at the time (which doesn’t bother me), so they wanted to create what would be seen as a very believable teenage character with Ariel. She does sin against her father and people by betraying them for Eric, but that’s not what Disney is trying to tell us to do- because of all the terrible consequences Ariel has to go through, it felt more like showing us what NOT to do. And yes, I am a conservative also.
I don’t like Bambi or The Black Cauldron. Other films I’m not as big a fan of is Dumbo, Pinocchio and unfortunately Sleeping Beauty.
Virginia, what about Ariel makes you feel she’s looser than any other Disney character that fell for their love interest at first sight? That’s not meant to be a patronizing or attacking question, by the way, I am genuinely curious and want to hear your thoughts if you want to share.
Unlike Virginia, I am much more liberal when it comes to morals, actually I’m a very liberal person in general. However, I agree, Ariel has always really bothered me. I mean like, your 16 what do you know about true love, especially from someone you’ve never spoken to before! I mean seriously, her father was only looking out for her and she had to go and be all teenager-like. What an example she sets!
Okkay, I may be exagerating now, but you get my drift~
A blood bath? =S This thread hasn’t gotten close to one as far as I can tell, which I’m glad for.
It is somewhat realistic for a lot of teenage girls, yes, but what I and other people took issue with was because of said realism she was a terrible example, but I elaborated on this in previous posts and don’t want to beat a dead horse.
Why does being a liberal of a conservative (I personally am more the latter) have to do with The Little Mermaid or this thread in general though?
Though in the formers case the second movie was far worse. Shockingly… I didn’t mind Cinderella 3 so much… she was actually… a little proactive?! Plus I quite liked Anastasia in it.
Snow white is just… boring in general. Plus… her character design just scares me a little for some reason.
I can sort of take and leave Sleeping Beauty too, there’s some okay parts… but overall meh. I think it’s just… in these movies the protaganists were so DULL.
As for The Little Mermaid, it’s not my favourite really, and it’s kind of ironic given the unfortunate conotations BOTH the original and the Disney version have… just in opposite directions. (The originals aim? To state that we all have places in society and it is WRONG to challenge them… wow, that’s cheerful and not disturbing at all- I believe in the very original by HC Anderson she just died and became sea foam… no ascension into heaven.).
Triton was too easily angered and he was scary when he destroyed all of Ariel’s belongings (extreme over reaction and he should have apologised for that sort of behaviour, being a parent means you issue punishment when you’re NOT angry later after you contemplate on what to do, otherwise you go too far and lose the right to be respected), but really I do have to say that her and Prince Eric’s romance wasn’t the most convincing to me. But Triton redeemed himself when he sacrificed himself for his daughter didn’t he? He showed how deeply he cared that way.
What got me was that Ariel only considered her family for a few seconds really before deciding with Ursula… plus, she just seemed to get married straight away, I thought she’d want to EXPLORE and SEE the human world first… maybe take some time to get to know Eric first? But we just have to assume that’s happened instead of really seeing it. Seems like she gets married straight away…
I think most other Disney movies implied engagement at best, except for the much older ‘classics’. Or am I misremembering?
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I have adored (or at least enjoyed) basically ever Disney film I’ve seen, and I’ve seen most all of them, at least the more mainstream ones. Well, maybe I thought Shaggy Dog (the older one) was kind of… meh, but not even that bad. 
